Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/L 20e α-class battleship


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Article promoted by Biblioworm (talk) via MilHistBot (talk) 01:30, 29 May 2018 (UTC) &laquo; Return to A-Class review list

L 20e α-class battleship
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Another ancient article I assumed would be stuck at GA level (in fact, the one article I figured would be the stumbling block to turning this into a completely FA Featured Topic), but with the acquisition of some new sources, I've been able to develop it into something fairly decent. This covers the German post-Jutland battleship designs, which ultimately came to nothing as a result of their defeat in World War I. Thanks to those who take the time to review the article. Parsecboy (talk) 17:32, 9 March 2018 (UTC)

Support: G'day, Nate, looks pretty good to me. I have the following suggestions/comments: AustralianRupert (talk) 05:15, 29 March 2018 (UTC)
 * "World War I" is overlinked in the lead
 * Fixed
 * in the lead, but the by that time: typo
 * Good catch
 * there are no dabs or disambig links
 * 20th century, German embarked: typo
 * Fixed
 * the Ersatz Yorcks and heavier armor: missing possessive apostrophe in "Yorcks"
 * That's not meant to be possessive
 * Indeed, not sure what I was thinking...sorry. AustralianRupert (talk) 09:20, 3 April 2018 (UTC)
 * the images lack alt text, and although this isn't a requirement, you might consider adding it as it can be useful for some users
 * Added to both
 * in the infobox it mentions that the belt armor reduced to 130 mm (5.1 in), but I couldn't find these figures in the body
 * Probably a typo - good catch
 * in the infobox it provides a range of 150 mm to 350 mm for the conning tower; however, the body indicates a range of 250 to 400 mm?
 * Corrected
 * in the References, are there any page numbers for the chapter or article by Campbell in Preston's work?
 * I'll have to check this tonight.
 * Page numbers added. Parsecboy (talk) 11:45, 3 April 2018 (UTC)
 * in the References, is there an ISSN or OCLC for the Mulligan work in The Journal of Military History? Also, are there any page numbers for this article?
 * Added both. Thanks for your review! Parsecboy (talk) 19:22, 2 April 2018 (UTC)

Support Comments : Some comments/suggestions below. Cheers, Zawed (talk) 08:19, 21 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Lead: I don't think it necessary to have the date of the Battle of Jutland or perhaps if you need some context rephrase to "fought later that year"
 * Good idea
 * Background section: suggest replacing "be superior to either British class" with "be superior to these," since it is clear that the comparison is to the British ships
 * Sounds good
 * Background section: "then also being developed", this phrasing doesn't sound quite right, suggest "then under development"
 * Works for me
 * Development and cancellation: missing word here, "By 11 September 1918, the selected the" Perhaps RMA?
 * Looks like Keith already fixed this.
 * Development and cancellation: note a, the first part doesn't explicitly refer to belt armour, but side armour. I assume the tapered bit is supposed to correspond to the "lower section". Also, the successive use of "below the waterline. Finally, the last sentence should that be 20e?
 * Corrected, and yes, 20e is right.
 * Dupe link: belt armor (the second usage is on "armored belt")
 * Fixed. Thanks Zawed. Parsecboy (talk) 12:08, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
 * All good, have added my support. Zawed (talk) 23:17, 24 April 2018 (UTC)


 * I support this article's bid for A-Class. – Vami _IV✠  14:21, 10 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks, Vami. Parsecboy (talk) 12:09, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

Support Comments by Sturmvogel_66

 * Probably a good idea to link full load in the infobox and in the main body.
 * Done
 * Move boilers to the power parameter
 * Fixed, good catch
 * And link battery in the infobox, or replace with casemate with a link.
 * Done
 * significantly larger than the preceding Bayern-class battleships delete redundant preceding
 * Done
 * along with variants with twin and quadruple Why the redundant twin reference? Do you mean more twin-gun turrets as well as quadruple turrets?
 * Some of the variants had both twin and quadruple turrets - added a "both", hopefully that clarifies things a bit.
 * Nicely done.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 17:51, 9 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks Sturm. Parsecboy (talk) 18:31, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
 * G'day can you clarify if you are supporting here? Thanks, Peacemaker67  (click to talk to me) 01:59, 26 May 2018 (UTC)
 * I believe that I can find it in my heart to do so, yes.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 02:10, 26 May 2018 (UTC)

Image review the image licensing looks fine for the photo, and the NFUR looks good for the infobox diagram. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 05:50, 26 May 2018 (UTC)


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