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 * Not promoted no consensus for promotion after staying open for 28+ days. -MBK004 05:38, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

Lebaudy Patrie

 * Nominator(s): Ryan 4314   (talk)

Greetings, I am not the author of this article (TraceyR is), already essentially passed an A-class review at WP:Aviation here. Ryan 4314  (talk) 19:21, 9 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Support: there are no dab links, external links all check out and alt text is present. I'm not an expert on the subject, though, so can't really say much about the content, although it seems complete to me. I couldn't find anything that needed tweaking MOS-wise either, but I might be wrong. — AustralianRupert (talk) 05:56, 21 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Comment. More citations could be added in the Steering and propulsion, June-November 1907, and Final Flight sections. Also, watch image sandwiching in Steering and Propulsion/Gondola sections. – Joe   N  22:32, 23 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Comments:
 * In the section Keel and Gondola, why was it common for their to have been two pilots/engineers/passengers? This may need to be reworded. It is intended to mean that most accounts mention these numbers of people being on board; no specific reasons were given to my knowledge.
 * In the same section, you have the line "...a 'siren' speaking trumpet, carrier pigeons, iron pins, ropes for anchoring the airship, a reserve supply of fuel and water, and a fire extinguisher." Why the siren speaking trumpet, carrier pigeons, and iron pins? I haven't seen reasons given for these inventory items, but I imaging that (1) the siren was for air-to-ground communication during take-off and landing (2) carrier pigeons were for reporting results of reconnaissance, e.g. troop movements etc in pre-wireless days and/or for reporting the airship's position if it were forced to land somewhere unexpected (3) iron pins were probably used for mooring when landing off-base. I'll have a search for generic info but I haven't seen anything along these lines yet.
 * In the steering and propulsion section, you mention the engine but give no indication of the miles per gallon the engine gets. I grant this may not be known, but I am curious about it since it would provide an idea of how far one fuel up could take the airship. I can expand this somewhat. One account (in "Auto" magazine, 1907) reports that on one trip of 150 miles only 140L of fuel were used (which was less than 50% of the supply on board). Another source (Vivian's History of Aeronautics) mentions a range of 280 miles, so there is a minor discrepancy between the two sources. I'm not aware of any figures available for mpg (which would depend on other factors such as wind direction etc.)
 * See if you can integrate the information in the See Also section into the article itself rather than have such a section in the article. I have a look at this soon. Thanks for the comments.
 * Otherwise it looks good. Well Done! TomStar81 (Talk) 17:19, 8 December 2009 (UTC)


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