Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/List of Knight's Cross of the Iron Cross recipients (J)


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Article promoted.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 18:44, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

List of Knight&

 * Nominator(s): MisterBee1966 (talk)

I am nominating this article for A-Class review (another one) because of the similarities to the List of Knight's Cross of the Iron Cross recipients (A), (C), (U) and (V), all A-class at the moment, and (I) which is currently under A-Class review. The layout and structure is derived from the Oak Leaves lists, the majority of which are featured lists. Thanks for the feedback! MisterBee1966 (talk) 06:45, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

Announcement I am on vacation until early September! I will address your potential concerns with the article after I am back. MisterBee1966 (talk) 06:56, 11 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Comment
 * There are a few error in sorting by rank
 * Fritz Jaquet Leutnant comes before the reserve officers and not with the Leutnants
 * There is a group of Oberleutnant zur See in the middle of the Oberleutnants
 * Kapitänleutnants in the middle of the Hauptmans
 * Major Friedrich Gustav Jaeger comes before the reserve rank and not with the majors
 * Regarding all of the above: An Oberleutnant zur See and Oberleutnant are the same rank, so is Kapitänleutnant and Hauptmann, and a Major and a Major of the Reserves are also of the same rank. Do you want a combination of rank and alphabetical sorting?
 * I thought you had it set for reserve officers to come fist must have just been coincidence. It would look better with officers from the same service being grouped together which has been standard in other lists albeit VCs not KnC.Jim Sweeney (talk) 14:02, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Could you have a look again please? I made some minor changes. The sorting is now done in the following order, rank: bottom up; in case of same rank level: Heer, Luftwaffe, Kriegsmarine, Waffen-SS. This does not solve the officers of the Reserves yet, they still can be in the middle of each group. MisterBee1966 (talk) 06:55, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Rolf Johannesson Kapitän zur See splits up the Obersts
 * Georg Jura Stabsfeldwebel after Generaloberst
 * done MisterBee1966 (talk) 12:57, 21 July 2011 (UTC)

Jim Sweeney (talk) 04:51, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Support Jim Sweeney (talk) 07:50, 22 July 2011 (UTC)

Support on prose per standard disclaimer. These are my edits. - Dank (push to talk)
 * "14 ... two ... 15 ... Heer members received 85 of the medals, nine went to the Kriegsmarine, 42 to the Luftwaffe, and six to the Waffen-SS": It's impossible to apply WP:ORDINAL completely consistently, but I think it's likely some reviewer will say that this isn't in line with the advice to either spell them all out or none of them out.
 * "doubt regarding the veracity and formal correctness of the listing": This should probably be "or", not "and". - Dank (push to talk) 00:11, 5 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Support: I made a couple of minor tweaks. I have only one question per below:
 * is this a typo: "According to Scherzer as Mojor zur Verwendung (for disposition)" (specifically "Mojor")? AustralianRupert (talk) 09:19, 13 August 2011 (UTC)
 * I fixed that as its an obvious typo.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 17:16, 18 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment
 * Considerable repeated links per WP:REPEATLINK - for instances the services of each recipient (e.g. Heer, Luftwaffe, Kriegsmarine) and of some ranks. According to the policy "within each list only the first occurence should be linked". Per my comments on WikiProject Military history/Assessment/List of Knight's Cross of the Iron Cross recipients (O). Anotherclown (talk) 20:27, 16 August 2011 (UTC)
 * I've replied on the "O" list but the essence of the point is this: the "first occurence" of a link in a sortable table is varied so it is acceptable at FLC to link all instances if so desired. Woody (talk) 17:46, 18 August 2011 (UTC)


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