Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/List of Knight's Cross of the Iron Cross with Oak Leaves recipients (1945)


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Closed/promoted -- Ian Rose (talk) 03:58, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

List of Knight&

 * Nominator(s): MisterBee1966 (talk)

I am nominating this as the final of five lists for A-Class review because I feel this list may meet the criteria already. Due to the few number of recipients in the years 1940 and 1941 the two years had to be merged into one list. Now completed the five lists 1940–1941 (currently a featured list and MILHIST A-Class), 1942 (currently a featured list and MILHIST A-Class), 1943 (currently a featured list and MILHIST A-Class), 1944 (currently a featured list and MILHIST A-Class) and 1945 comprise all of the generally accepted 882 recipients of the Knight's Cross of the Iron Cross with Oak Leaves. I welcome any constructive feedback. Thanks in advance. MisterBee1966 (talk) 14:59, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

Comments. As always, feel free to revert my copyediting. Please check the edit summaries. - Dank (push to talk)
 * "Gruppenführer" and "Reichssicherheitsdienst" would be better in a footnote, maybe after: "SS group leader Johann Rattenhuber's men". - Dank (push to talk) 17:11, 10 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Hm, the lead of this list has passed four different A-Class and FLC reviews. For uniformity reasons I would like it to keep the look and feel as is. Do we really want to add another footnote to this list? I am open-minded here and suggest asking what other reviewers think about this. MisterBee1966 (talk) 13:21, 11 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Support on prose per standard disclaimer. I've stopped copyediting to get some writing done, but as I recall, the issue here was minor. OTOH, I agree with all of Rupert's suggestions below ... and I'm embarrassed I didn't catch that stuff, maybe I was already on my copyediting break while I was copyediting this! - Dank (push to talk) 13:32, 16 July 2011 (UTC)


 * Support: nothing major for me, seems to meet the criteria. I have a couple of comments and suggestions, though:
 * I hope it was okay, but I archived the peer review so that you can focus all reviewer attention on the ACR. Feel free to revert if you disagree;
 * no dab links, ext links work, alt text is present (no action required);
 * I didn't check all the images, but those I did check seemed to be appropriately licenced (no action required);
 * in the last part of the lead, it could probably be tightened a little as some of the details might not be completely necessary. For instance: "but was sentenced to death by Adolf Hitler and executed by SS-Gruppenführer Johann Rattenhuber's Reichssicherheitsdienst (RSD) on 28 April 1945 after a court-martial led by SS-Brigadeführer and Generalmajor of the Waffen-SS Wilhelm Mohnke. The sentence was carried out the same day. The death sentence, according to German law, resulted in the loss of all orders and honorary signs." This could possibly be reduced to "...but was sentenced to death and executed on 28 April 1945. As a result, in accordance with German law, he was striped of all orders and honorary signs". (suggestion only);
 * keep for now because it matches the other articles of the series. MisterBee1966 (talk) 05:13, 17 July 2011 (UTC)
 * in the Background section, I think commas might be required here: "The first enactment Reichsgesetzblatt I S. 1573 of 1 September 1939 instituted the..." (after "enactment" and before "of");
 * done MisterBee1966 (talk) 05:13, 17 July 2011 (UTC)
 * not sure about the caps here: "and Luftwaffe (Air force)" - if "Air force" is a proper noun here (which the capital "A" is indicating), then I think "force" should also be in caps, i.e. "Air Force";
 * done MisterBee1966 (talk) 05:13, 17 July 2011 (UTC)
 * in the Recipients section, this is might be explained a little clearer: "for reasons associated with the deteriorating situation of the Third Reich during the final days of World War II". Possible solution: "...on the basis of poor record keeping associated with the deteriorating situation of the Third Reich during the final days of World War II";
 * done MisterBee1966 (talk) 05:13, 17 July 2011 (UTC)
 * in the Recipients section, you probably need to use a transitory conjuction here: "Veit Scherzer disputed the listing..." because it stands in opposition to the sentence before it. For instance, possibly: "However, Viet Scherzer has disputed..."
 * done MisterBee1966 (talk) 05:13, 17 July 2011 (UTC)
 * in Footnote 46, I think that a possessive apostrophe and an "s" is needed "Franz Sensfuß nomination for the Oak Leaves". I think it should be "Franz Sensfuß's nomination for the Oak Leaves" (I'm not sure, though, given the use of the German character);
 * done MisterBee1966 (talk) 05:13, 17 July 2011 (UTC)
 * in Footnote 47, same as above here: "Jospeph von Radowitz nomination for the Oak Leaves". Should be "Jospeph von Radowitz's nomination for the Oak Leaves..." AustralianRupert (talk) 13:09, 16 July 2011 (UTC)
 * done MisterBee1966 (talk) 05:13, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

Sources review; I do not have access to the cited sources, so I can do little more than check if they're consistently formatted.
 * Ref 11 needs a full stop after "p"
 * Ref 104 has muliple pages and needs therefore be annotated with "pp." not "p."
 * Ref 198 and 199 are the same and ought to be merged with a common ref name

-- Eisfbnore   &bull; talk   21:03, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks! all done MisterBee1966 (talk) 18:33, 20 July 2011 (UTC)


 * Support - excellent work as usual, everything appears to be up to the standard of your previous lists. Parsecboy (talk) 15:43, 1 August 2011 (UTC)


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