Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/List of protected cruisers of Italy


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List of protected cruisers of Italy

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This list comprises all of the protected cruisers built for the Italian Navy, from the early 1880s to the 1910s. It's been done for some time, but I haven't gotten around to bringing it through ACR until now. It's the capstone for this project. Thanks to all who take the time to review the list. Parsecboy (talk) 13:01, 23 January 2017 (UTC)

Support Comments by Sturmvogel_66
 * No DABs, external links OK.
 * I'm not sure that I buy US-PD for File:Italian cruiser Dogali.jpg as there's no publication info. I think the PD-USGov-Military-Navy tag is probably better since we can't prove publication before 1923.
 * Well, we don't know for sure who took the picture. See if the tag I changed it to seems fine to you. Parsecboy (talk) 17:36, 28 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Yeah, it's good, but I'm still OK with the Navy tag as it could well have been taken by a naval attache or at least purchased by one from a commercial photographer.
 * I'm not sure what to do about File:Varo RN Basilicata.jpg as no publication info casts the PD-1923 tag in doubt. It's clearly out of copyright in Italy, so that part's OK. Time to call in a real expert.
 * PD-1996 is quite likely to apply, but we really need a publication date to confirm. Nikkimaria (talk) 16:56, 28 January 2017 (UTC)
 * That was my assumption - until I can find a date of publication, which will likely be impossible, I'll just pull the photo. Thanks Nikki.


 * Watch your conversions for rounding errors.
 * I think these should all be fixed now - let me know if you see anything still wrong
 * All fixed, but a conversion is needed for Piemonte's guns.
 * Done.
 * Link squadron, North Africa, Arabian Peninsula, gunfire support, distilling ship, ship-breakers, observation balloon, gun battery, Australia, blockade, boiler.
 * All done
 * Explain /30 in armament or delete it.
 * Deleted, unnecessary in a list like this
 * Need a comma after scrap for the Etnas
 * Fixed
 * Is the bow section of Puglia still in existence? And shouldn't museum be capitalized in the Vittoriale degli italiani museum?
 * Yes - I see how the past tense might imply that it's gone. As for capitalization, I don't know - maybe can answer for us?
 * I'd say "at the Vittoriale degli italiani, a museum in Lombardy." - Dank (push to talk) 13:28, 29 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Don't forget this.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 15:53, 29 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Sounds good to me - thanks Dan. Parsecboy (talk) 17:19, 29 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Cambridge MA: Da Capo Press. ISBN 0-306-81311-4 comma after Cambridge. Suggest spelling out states for those foreigners unfamiliar with US state abbreviations.
 * Removed the states instead.
 * J. J. Keliher & Co. XLVII. 1903. 8007941 Tell the reader that this last bit is an OCLC number.
 * Good catch
 * You must have gotten distracted ;-( Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 22:59, 28 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Ah, I fixed one and didn't see the other.
 * Standardize your treatment of ISBNs; some have dashes and others don't.
 * Fixed
 * Add an ampersand for Marinelli in the bibliography.
 * Done. Thanks Sturm. Parsecboy (talk) 17:36, 28 January 2017 (UTC)


 * Comments Support
 * All tool checks ok, inc the Earwig tool which didn't detect any issues with close paraphrase / copy vio. etc (no action req'd).
 * Some minor inconsistency in use of both "World War I" and "First World War".
 * Fixed.
 * Slightly repetitive prose here: "Dogali was originally designed by William Henry White of Armstrong Whitworth for the Greek Navy; she was originally..." (use of originally twice in one sentence seems redundant - perhaps consider rewording?)
 * How does swapping the second "originally" for an "initially" work?
 * Some minor inconsistency in presentation of date ranges, with the article using both "1911–12" and "1907–1908".
 * Fixed.
 * I made some minor changes here.
 * Those look fine to me.
 * Otherwise this looks good to me. Anotherclown (talk) 23:49, 25 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Parsecboy (talk) 12:52, 27 February 2017 (UTC)
 * - can you revisit your comments and let me know if there's anything else you'd like me to fix? Thanks. Parsecboy (talk) 17:17, 27 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Added my support now, sorry for the delay I forgot all about this one. Anotherclown (talk) 12:22, 28 March 2017 (UTC)

Support by PM67
 * there are some alpha-sorting tweaks needed in the References section. Klein and Marinelli at least. A couple have an earlier book by the same author listed after a later book, which jars for some reason. Great work, this list shows the development of Italian protected cruisers in an easy to understand way. Cheers, Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 07:19, 2 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks PM, I think I have them sorted out now (I didn't realize I had Koburger in there twice!) Parsecboy (talk) 10:40, 2 April 2017 (UTC)


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