Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Max-Hellmuth Ostermann


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 * Promoted -MBK004 04:17, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

Max-Hellmuth Ostermann

 * Nominator(s): MisterBee1966 (talk)

I'd like to find out if this article meets the A-class criteria, I think it does. I acknowledge the fact that the article is a little weak on his personal background. So far I couldn’t find a single source that would give us more insight so I focussed on his military career. Please let me know what you think. Thanks MisterBee1966 (talk) 09:21, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Comments
 * No problems reported with with external links, dab links, or alt text.
 * Remove the definition of the flying ace from the intro paragraph you have already provided a link to it, and that should be enough to solve anyone's curiosity for a definition.
 * Actually this was required in every FA-class article I submitted (Mölders, Bär and Lent). So for sake of consistency I'll want to keep it here. MisterBee1966 (talk) 06:27, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I see. Very well then, I won't complain. TomStar81 (Talk) 22:13, 6 January 2010 (UTC)


 * The wording of the last line in the second intro paragraph seems to suggest that the he was shot down, landed safely, then executed by Soviet Soldiers on the ground, yet the article seems to imply that Osterman was killed when his plane was shot down. I suggest clarifying the intro paragraph to clarify which of the two it was.
 * Reworded MisterBee1966 (talk) 08:23, 6 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Your German-English translations are inconsistent - sometimes the article has a English term following a German term and sometimes it doesn't. Lets try to find some uniformity here.
 * In the Eastern Front section, do you know what kind of bombers he shot down?
 * SB-3s a variant of the Tupolev SB MisterBee1966 (talk) 08:28, 6 January 2010 (UTC)


 * In the same section you note he was briefly arrested. When was he released, and what happened to the officer that arrested him? The article doesn't say, but I would like to know.
 * fate is unknown, I added a sentence. MisterBee1966 (talk) 08:23, 6 January 2010 (UTC)


 * We are a little thing on images, any chance we could get a picture of his plane model or a family photograph or something along those lines to beef up the visual? I think it would improve the article.
 * I added a picture. Please verify my "Non-free use rationale" MisterBee1966 (talk) 08:51, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Verified, everything is in order. TomStar81 (Talk) 22:13, 6 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Otherwise everything looks good. Well done! TomStar81 (Talk) 04:47, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Support My complaints have been addressed. Well Done! TomStar81 (Talk) 09:54, 8 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Support. I've made some minor prose changes, just don't get the Soviet Union and Russia confused - that's a bit of a pet peeve of mine, I suppose. – Joe   N  19:35, 9 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Support The picture of the Bf 109 F-2 "white 2" tend to squeeze the text to the left (at least on my screen) is there any way it can be moved above the text or the width shortened ? This does not stop my support. WELL DONE AGAIN. --Jim Sweeney (talk) 08:13, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I made the picture a bit smaller. Have a look if this works out any better. MisterBee1966 (talk) 09:48, 14 January 2010 (UTC)


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