Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Peter Drummond (RAF officer)


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Peter Drummond (RAF officer)

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Allow me to present Roy Drummond (nicknamed from youth, and later officially, "Peter"), a World War I ace and one of the highest-ranking Australians to serve in the Royal Air Force. Having created this ten years ago, my memory's a little hazy, but I think I became interested in him because for a while it looked like he might be the solution to the long-running conflict between George Jones and William Bostock over command of the Royal Australian Air Force in World War II. It wasn't to be, though -- the Jones-Bostock feud continued to simmer and Drummond ended up losing his life in a plane crash over the Azores in 1945. This has been GA for yonks but I was never satisfied with some of the sourcing, so have recently expanded it and improved the referencing to a level I think commensurate with A-Class, and perhaps FA. Let me know what you think! Tks/cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 06:15, 20 January 2018 (UTC)

 Comments Support from PM
 * in the lead
 * perhaps mention that his Australian posting was as Director of Operations and Intelligence?
 * Okay.
 * perhaps "On return to Britain..."
 * Prefer not as the events didn't occur immediately after he returned...
 * suggest "knighted in the same order..."
 * Okay.
 * perhaps mention that Air Member for Training was on the Air Council?
 * Didn't feel I could incorporate that easily in the sentence but linked AMT to Air Council.

Great job with this, Ian. That's me done. Cheers, Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 08:23, 23 January 2018 (UTC)
 * link hospital ship
 * Done.
 * should it be No. 67 Squadron RFC?
 * I thought "numbered No." was a bit much, and in fact if you check the RAF website I think they tend to use just the figure without "No." in front.
 * the London Gazette, should the link just be to London Gazette, or should it be The?
 * I think the former is better -- done.
 * the sentence beginning "According to his own account..." is really too long, and could be broken up into three
 * I thought keeping it all together with commas and semi-colon made it clearer that it was all his account and therefore the quotes were all his, but have split into three sentences as suggested.
 * suggest "and the newly-formed Royal Australian Air Force (RAAF)"?
 * Fair enough.
 * was his wife a relation of any of the notable Drake-Brockman's?
 * Yes. Brigadier General Edmund Drake-Brockman was her cousin. He gave the bride away at the wedding.   Hawkeye7   (discuss)  11:51, 23 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Heh, I have to admit I stopped checking when I saw that her father Paris was not wiki-notable, so tks guys for pushing it... ;-) Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 08:10, 24 January 2018 (UTC)
 * suggest that the latter half of the sentence beginning with "and that the latter" be moved down to after his death. as it is rather abrupt where it is
 * Let me think about this one...
 * Hi PM, rejigged things a bit so see pls have a look -- if okay I think this would wrap up my responses to your comments. Tks/cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 07:59, 26 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Drummond succeedied
 * So much for spell-check -- fixed.
 * MiD is duplicate linked
 * Fixed.
 * images all appropriately licensed
 * Tks for the review, PM! Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 08:10, 24 January 2018 (UTC)
 * All good. Supporting. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 08:09, 26 January 2018 (UTC)

Support Apart from the points above, it all looks good to me. Hawkeye7  (discuss)  11:51, 23 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Tks Hawkeye! Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 08:10, 24 January 2018 (UTC)

Support: not a lot stood out to me, Ian. Nice work, as usual. I have the following review points: AustralianRupert (talk) 05:35, 26 January 2018 (UTC)
 * in the Early career section, I suggest adding his date of birth
 * a couple of the images are lacking alt text, which you may wish to add (although it isn't a requirement):
 * Tks for those two points, Rupert -- testament to how long it's been since this was last reviewed, when no-one was concerned with such things.... ;-)
 * there are no dab links, and the external links all work (no action required)
 * the article is well written and referenced in a consistent manner (no action required)
 * the article appears comprehensive in its coverage (no action required)
 * is there an oclc number that could be added for the Australian Encyclopedia volume in the References?
 * Well yes and no... I checked WorldCat when I was enhancing the article and found several editions with OCLCs but not the edition I used, so I thought best not use one that wasn't precise -- WDYT? Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 06:32, 26 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Interesting, I could only find two entries for 1958 (neither of them the right one): . Oh well. No dramas. Regards, AustralianRupert (talk) 07:14, 26 January 2018 (UTC)


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