Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/SMS Kurfürst Friedrich Wilhelm


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 * Promoted –Abraham, B.S. (talk) 05:38, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

SMS Kurfürst Friedrich Wilhelm

 * Nominator(s): Parsecboy (talk)

This article was overhauled earlier this month, and passed GA review over the weekend. I feel it's up to A-class standards, or very close. I appreciate all reviews/comments that are directed at improving the article. Thanks in advance to all who take the time to look at this nomination. Parsecboy (talk) 00:51, 16 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Question: Shouldn't the article tell us a little more about the name patrons of the ship? And tell why she was named Kurfürst Friedrich Wilhelmand later Barbaros Hayreddin. Later in brackets only does it tell us that Barbaros Hayreddin was a former admiral. MisterBee1966 (talk) 07:14, 16 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Support Convert the displacement in the infobox. And I'm fairly certain that the nomenclature on these guns was 28 cm K L/50 as I believe that the KLM changed their style of naming after these ships these ships entered service. Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 21:36, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
 * I can't find anything that explicitly states that these ships carried K L/40 and L/35 guns, though Groner's doesn't call them quick-firing, and Conway's 1906-1921 has a table of German guns, and has entries for 28cm K L/40 and K L/35, but no entry for a 28cm SK L/35. The entry for the SK L/40 has the turret information for the 1901 mounts used on the Braunschweigs and Deutschlands. I have also amended 28 cm SK L/40 gun accordingly. Parsecboy (talk) 13:46, 19 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Support. Fixed a punctuation error but otherwise looks good. – Joe   N  00:35, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Comments
 * You need convert templates throughout the article (you knew I was going to say that)
 * Are we not putting citations into the infoboxes anymore? I'm curious about this for the articles I'm working on. --Brad (talk) 23:47, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I'm usually good at doing them in the technical sections, but usually forget them in the rest of the prose. On your second point, I haven't ever put citations in the infobox, as long as the information is cited in the prose (sort of the same reasoning why we don't need to cite the intro as long as it's cited elsewhere). Parsecboy (talk) 01:20, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Convert templates still needed. --Brad (talk) 04:49, 27 September 2009 (UTC)
 * I added one for the 45cm torpedo tubes, which is the only one I found missing. Are you referring to the gun sizes in the Balkan wars section? I left them unconverted because they're already done in the "Construction" section. Do you think I should convert them too? Parsecboy (talk) 12:42, 27 September 2009 (UTC)
 * A conversion done at the beginning may not be remembered in later sections but that's just my 2 cents. You're missing a conversion in the infobox where the belt armor is 12-16 inches. When converting knots or nautical miles you should also include the US measurements. Anyhow, to move along, I support for A-class. --Brad (talk) 22:51, 27 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Fair enough; I've added conversions in the rest of the prose. Thanks for catching the conversion issues in the infobox; I usually just leave speed conversions without specifying the output, but those must've been done by someone else and I just missed them. Parsecboy (talk) 23:23, 27 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Support: there are no dab links and there are no external links to cause any dramas. My only question is should the infobox image have alt text per WP:ALT? Other than that I think it is up to scratch. — AustralianRupert (talk) 04:24, 27 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Alt text has been added. For some reason, I thought I had done that some time ago, but apparently not. Thanks! Parsecboy (talk) 12:42, 27 September 2009 (UTC)


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