Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/SMS Seeadler


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Article promoted by Anotherclown (talk) via MilHistBot (talk) 00:06, 12 September 2016 (UTC) &laquo; Return to A-Class review list

SMS Seeadler

 * Nominator(s): Parsecboy (talk)

Perhaps inspired by its appearance at PoTD, I'm nominating this article for A-class, after a bit of a hiatus at ACR over the last year or so. Thanks for all who take the time to review the article. Parsecboy (talk) 20:00, 16 August 2016 (UTC)

Support Comments: G'day and welcome back to ACR! I have a couple of comments/suggestions: AustralianRupert (talk) 23:03, 19 August 2016 (UTC)
 * inconsistent: "83.9 meters (275 ft) long overall" v. "Length: 82.6 m (271 ft 0 in)"
 * inconsistent: "4.42 m (14.5 ft) forward" v. "4.45 m (14 ft 7 in)"
 * inconsistent: "displaced 1,864 t (1,835 long tons; 2,055 short tons)" v. "Displacement: 1,868 t (1,838 long tons; 2,059 short tons)"
 * inconsistent: " range of approximately 2,950 nautical miles (5,460 km; 3,390 mi)" v. "Range: 2,990 nmi (5,540 km) at 9 knots (17 km/h)"
 * "...shipyard director, Kapitän zur See Aschmann" --> I wonder if the rank should be translated here, for instance " shipyard director, Kapitän zur See (Captain) Aschmann
 * Good idea
 * "Korvettenkapitän (Corvette Captain)" --> I think it might be better with the English language equivalent rather than a literal translation, e.g. "Korvettenkapitän (Lieutenant Commander)"
 * Works for me.
 * "In mid-October, Seeadler sent a landing party ashore...": it might be a good idea here to re-iterate the year
 * Sounds fine to me
 * "File:SMS Seeadler Daressalam1907-14.jpg": probably needs a PD-US-1923 licence
 * Added. Thanks for your review! I'll have to check the figures tonight, but I suspect the text is correct. Parsecboy (talk) 12:29, 22 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Looks like ÄDA took care of it for me. Parsecboy (talk) 19:13, 22 August 2016 (UTC)

Comments. As always, feel free to revert my copyediting. - Dank (push to talk)
 * Good to see you back!
 * "five revolver cannon": "cannon" can work as a plural, but I don't like it after a specific number like "five". I'd recommend either "cannons" or using a different word.
 * "cannons" works for me.
 * Update: a bunch of dictionaries disagree with me, so I'm hoisting the white flag. Either cannon or cannons is fine. - Dank (push to talk) 18:06, 22 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Fair enough - I restored the "cannon" and added a link to Hotchkiss gun. Parsecboy (talk) 18:10, 22 August 2016 (UTC)
 * "German financial damages": "damages" means money awarded in a civil trial ... is that what this means?
 * I'd have to look at the exact wording again, but I doubt there was a trial.
 * Okay. "damage" doesn't have a plural; "damages" is a different word with a different meaning. - Dank (push to talk) 12:39, 22 August 2016 (UTC)
 * How does this work? Parsecboy (talk) 18:11, 22 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Sure, without "financial". - Dank (push to talk) 18:30, 22 August 2016 (UTC)
 * I agree with AR's points above.
 * Support on prose per my standard disclaimer. These are my edits. - Dank (push to talk) 01:46, 21 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks as always, Dan. Parsecboy (talk) 12:29, 22 August 2016 (UTC)

Support I remember seeing the photo at FPC, and it's good to see the corresponding article here and in excellent shape. I think that the A-class criteria are met, and have only the following minor comments:
 * What does Kaiseradler translate as?
 * Added
 * "Seeadler first went to the Admiralty Islands on 18 January 1900 in response to the murder of European businessmen by natives there" - do we know what she did after arriving there?
 * HRS don't say - I would guess simply a show of force, since it seems they generally record landing parties and such.
 * "During Seeadler's operations in China, her crew suffered only one casualty from enemy action." - do we know when and how this occurred? Nick-D (talk) 02:12, 21 August 2016 (UTC)
 * The article doesn't give any details, and HRS don't mention it at all, unfortunately. Thanks Nick. Parsecboy (talk) 12:29, 22 August 2016 (UTC)

Image review -- all licensing seems to check out. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 06:20, 10 September 2016 (UTC)


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