Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/SMS Weissenburg


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Article promoted by Zawed (talk) via MilHistBot (talk) 22:06, 27 May 2017 (UTC) &laquo; Return to A-Class review list

SMS Weissenburg

 * Nominator(s): 

Another old German battleship, I started tinkering with this article all the way back in 2007. Nearly ten years later, it's finally in shape to head to ACR (and hopefully FAC), after having been rewritten and expanded with newer sources. This was one of two German battleships sold to the Ottoman Empire in 1910, where it had a much livelier career, though not a much more successful one (she was also the longest-surviving German capital ship, being some 67 years between keel-laying and final scrapping). Thanks to those who take the time to review the article. Parsecboy (talk) 00:22, 28 April 2017 (UTC)

Support with minor comments
 * "battleship C" - minor, but on many screens it is very hard to see the italic C - I first read this as saying the name was "battleship C", not "C". Any chance the article could put speech marks around the C?
 * Good idea
 * "Hildebrand, Hans H.; Röhr, Albert; Steinmetz, Hans-Otto (1993). Die Deutschen Kriegsschiffe (Volume 5). Ratingen: Mundus Verlag. ISBN 3-7822-0456-5", but "Hildebrand, Hans H.; Röhr, Albert; Steinmetz, Hans-Otto (1993). Die Deutschen Kriegsschiffe (Volume 8) [The German Warships] (in German). Ratingen: Mundus Verlag. ASIN B003VHSRKE." - isn't the first Hildebrand volume in German as well? Hchc2009 (talk) 09:03, 7 May 2017 (UTC)
 * This is what happens when you copy refs from different articles, where one was fixed and the other wasn't, and you aren't paying attention ;) Thanks Hchc. Parsecboy (talk) 11:58, 8 May 2017 (UTC)

Support also with minor comments
 * in the lead, the double reference to Turgut Reis is jarring...How about ... In 1910, Weissenburg was sold to the Ottoman Empire and renamed Turgut Reis, after for the famous 16th century Turkish admiral, Turgut Reis? or something like that....
 * How about piping the link to Turgut Reis to "Turkish admiral"? I'd like to keep the bolded name
 * You switch the reference around to Barbaros Hayreddin and Turgut Reis, and previously you've named Turgut Reis first
 * Fixed
 * A year later, on 29 September 1911, when Italy declared war on the Ottoman Empire. ....?
 * Probably something I rewrote a few too many times - removed the "when".
 * made some tweaks here auntieruth (talk) 18:10, 10 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks, Ruth. Parsecboy (talk) 12:28, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

Comments by Llammakey

 * conversions - cm is abbreviated by the inches are not in the guns section - they are in adjectival form, should be hyphenated or abbreviated
 * Fixed
 * The torpedo tubes measurement needs a conversion
 * Added
 * Displacement, draft, knots, barbette, magainze, Wilhelmshaven, Wilhelm II, decommissioned, Allies, should be linked in the text
 * Done
 * maybe include Wilhelm's title at first mention so later in text, when you say the Kaiser, they know you're talking about this guy.
 * Good idea
 * in the section 1901-1910, Brandenburg class battleships needs to be hyphenated
 * Good catch
 * "The Ottoman navy..." - navy should be capitalized, suggest also removing the definite article before ship name, but not fussy about it
 * Both done
 * Is Nargara and Nagara Point the same place? (Italo-Turkish War section)
 * Yeah - removed the "Point" from the one instance
 * Not sure if the cruiser Mediciye is the same as the later Mecidiye - spelling is nearly the same and would remove a red link
 * Yeah, that's a typo.
 * Suggest converting the 1,500 meters in the "Subsequent operations" section
 * Done
 * Naval mines is overlinked in WWI section Llammakey (talk) 11:19, 21 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Fixed. Thanks Llammakey. Parsecboy (talk) 12:23, 22 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Support after changes. No prob! Llammakey (talk) 18:27, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

Support: G'day, looks good to me, I just have a few minor suggestions: AustralianRupert (talk) 10:01, 23 May 2017 (UTC)
 * in the lead World War I is overlinked
 * Fixed, plus a few other duplicate links
 * in the lead "1904–05" should be "1904–1905"
 * Fixed
 * in the lead "with the Greek Navy — the Battle of Elli in December 1912" should have an unspaced emdash or a spaced endash
 * Good catch
 * there are a few other duplicate links: protected cruiser, Ottoman cruiser Hamidiye, SMS Goeben, Dardanelles, and Reichsmarineamt
 * Fixed as per above
 * I added a translation to "File:Map of the First Balkan War.png" to clarify its source, not sure if I got it right, though
 * I asked the original uploader, who is still active on Commons. As an aside, you edited via IP on Commons - don't know if it's a big deal to you but if so you might want to get that oversighted.
 * "File:SMS Weissenburg NH 88653.jpg": needs a US licence tag
 * Added
 * "millimetres" --> "millimeters"?
 * Should be fixed. Thanks AR! Parsecboy (talk) 13:55, 23 May 2017 (UTC)

Source review -- refs all look prima facie reliable, no formatting concerns. I also did an image review before I realised Rupert had probably gone through each one, so they should be cool... ;-) Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 16:29, 27 May 2017 (UTC)


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