Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/SM UB-14


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 * Promoted –Abraham, B.S. (talk) 06:44, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

SM UB-14

 * Nominator(s): Bellhalla (talk)

This article is about one of the more successful German Type UB I submarines of World War I. The article has passed a GA review and I believe that it fulfills the A-Class requirements. — Bellhalla (talk) 15:56, 24 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Support This is yet another great article which meets the A-class criteria. Some comments:
 * The HMT Southland article states that she was carrying only Australian soldiers when attacked by UB-14, not 'ANZAC' troops (note the 'NZ' in ANZAC is for New Zealand).
 * I thought I had a source that stated there were New Zealanders on board; in the meantime I've changed it to just say "Australian troops". — Bellhalla (talk) 15:11, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm little a bit uncomfortable with the implied speculation that the submarine operated in the Mediterranean during late 1916 and early 1917 and took part in the occupation of Sevestapol in 1918 - it might be better to remove this material. Given the sub's age and extensive service by this time she could be missing from the sources because she was in port for refits. Nick-D (talk) 07:30, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
 * For the 1916–1917 span, I have no idea what, if anything, UB-14 did in that span. Just that it wasn't in the Black Sea. It's kind of a darned-if-you-do-darned-if-you-don't thing: from past experience at article reviews, there's always the inevitable "But what happened in the gap from this year to that year?" kind of question. Any way, if you think the implication is too strong, I could omit that entire paragraph. — Bellhalla (talk) 15:11, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
 * For the Sevastopol bit, since UB-14 had operated off the port while Germany and Russia were at war, I felt it important to explain that the Central Powers had taken possession of the port. I was trying to tie the two parts of the paragraph together, but I think it still works OK leaving that out, so I've reworded it. — Bellhalla (talk) 15:11, 26 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Support. Again, great work. Cla68 (talk) 07:09, 27 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Support. Excellent as usual, with one comment: "Between shellfire from the Turkish shore batteries and E7's scuttling charges—von Heimburg and company narrowly escaped harm." is broken up by the dash which makes it awkward, perhaps it could be rephrased to use a comma or semicolon? – Joe   N  00:34, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Good point. That really should have been a comma. (Maybe a remnant from previous version of the sentence?) — Bellhalla (talk) 03:55, 1 May 2009 (UTC)


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