Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Yugoslav torpedo boat T6

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Yugoslav torpedo boat T6
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Another dinky former Austro-Hungarian torpedo boat that was transferred to Yugoslavia after World War I and ended her days with the Italians in WWII. Went through GA in 2017, but has been improved based on feedback on her sister boats as they went through ACR and FAC, so hopefully not too much to find. This is part of a Good Topic I am slowly moving towards Featured. Have at it! Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 05:29, 7 March 2020 (UTC)

Image review - pass
The sole image is appropriately licenced, positioned and captioned. Gog the Mild (talk) 11:48, 10 March 2020 (UTC)

Support from Gog the Mild

 * "In 1920, under the terms of the previous year's Treaty of Saint-Germain-en-Laye by which rump Austria officially ended World War I, she was allocated to" As this is the first mention in the paragraph, and as this is a potentially confusing sentence, I suggest naming T6 in full.
 * Done. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 07:34, 11 March 2020 (UTC)


 * Could you link "sister", both in the caption and in the WWII section.
 * Done. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 07:34, 11 March 2020 (UTC)


 * Information on her service under the Italian flag seems a bit thin.
 * Yes, but what is available is there. I expect this is because the Adriatic was pretty quiet until the Italians surrendered, being too far from British bases and due to Italian domination of both coastlines, so little notable naval action occurred. The Royal Navy only used subs there until then, and mainly in the southern Adriatic, where they managed to sink a few ships operating between Italy, Albania and Greece. British surface ships only became a factor in the Adriatic after the Italian capitulation.


 * As I am sure I have said before, if the sources aren't ther, the sources aren't there. Supporting. Gog the Mild (talk) 09:58, 13 March 2020 (UTC)

Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 07:34, 11 March 2020 (UTC) Gog the Mild (talk) 12:03, 10 March 2020 (UTC)

Comment by Indy beetle

 * T6 was scuttled by her crew 30 km (19 mi) north of Rimini on 11 September as she had insufficient fuel on board to reach an Allied port. I presume this had to do with the crew not wanting the ship to fall into German hands? -Indy beetle (talk) 04:58, 13 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes, clarified. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 07:08, 13 March 2020 (UTC)

Comments Support by CPA-5

 * Originally 93 F, she was a 250t-class torpedo boat built in 1915–16 --> "Originally 93 F, she was a 250t-class torpedo boat built in 1915–1916"
 * Done. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 04:32, 15 March 2020 (UTC)


 * She saw active service during World War I, performing convoy, escort Link WWI.
 * Already linked in the previous sentence. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 04:32, 15 March 2020 (UTC)


 * could still sail from the Austro-Hungarian Navy (German: kaiserliche und königliche Kriegsmarine) Unlink German and add Hungarian.
 * Done. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 04:32, 15 March 2020 (UTC)


 * when Ganz & Danubius reduced their price by ten percent Not per cent?
 * Sure, done. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 04:32, 15 March 2020 (UTC)


 * Are there links for the F and T groups?
 * They would only be piped section links to the 250t-class article. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 04:32, 15 March 2020 (UTC)


 * signified the location of Ganz & Danubius' main shipyard at Fiume No link for the company?
 * Already linked above. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 04:32, 15 March 2020 (UTC)


 * The 250t-class F-group boats had a waterline length of 58.5 metres (191 ft 11 in) --> "The 250t-class F-group boats had a waterline length of 58.5 m (191 ft 11 in)"
 * I think we do in full at first mention, and abbr thereafter. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 04:32, 15 March 2020 (UTC)


 * Tonne is overlinked.
 * Fixed. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 04:32, 15 March 2020 (UTC)


 * The crew consisted of 38–41 officers and enlisted men.[2][1] Re-oder the refs.
 * They are in that order because that is the order of the figures given. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 04:32, 15 March 2020 (UTC)


 * one of which burned fuel oil and the other coal Is it "burned" or "burnt" in Australia?
 * We are nothing if not flexible, but burned is ok. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 04:32, 15 March 2020 (UTC)


 * Knots is also overlinked.
 * Fixed. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 04:32, 15 March 2020 (UTC)


 * 93 F was laid down on 9 January 1915, launched on 25 November 1915 and completed on 16 April 1916 Try to avoid using a number at the start of a sentence.
 * Fixed. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 04:32, 15 March 2020 (UTC)


 * action off Porto Corsini against an Italian force Maybe pipe Italian to the Kingdom of Italy.
 * Done. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 04:32, 15 March 2020 (UTC)


 * In 1917, one her 66 mm guns was placed on an anti-aircraft mount You mean "one of her"?
 * Yes, fixed. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 04:32, 15 March 2020 (UTC)


 * On the night of 11 May 1917, the Huszár-class destroyer Csikós The night of 10/11 or 11/12?
 * 11/12, fixed. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 04:32, 15 March 2020 (UTC)


 * off the mouth of the Tagliamento river in the far north of the Adriatic --> "off the mouth of the Tagliamento River in the far north of the Adriatic"
 * Fixed. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 04:32, 15 March 2020 (UTC)


 * 93 F survived the war intact Same as above try to avoid using a number at the start.
 * Done. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 04:32, 15 March 2020 (UTC)


 * in KJRM service, 93 F was renamed T6 Was there an actual reason why they did that?
 * I expect so that their numbering made sense, the eight boats were renumbered T1–T8. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 04:32, 15 March 2020 (UTC)


 * On 8 April, the four boats of the 3rd Torpedo Division No link for the division?
 * No, it wouldn't be independently notable. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 04:32, 15 March 2020 (UTC)


 * All four F-group boats were then captured by the Italians When?
 * Different dates, and I didn't think we needed that detail. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 04:32, 15 March 2020 (UTC)


 * Her guns were replaced by two 76 mm (3 in) L/40 anti-aircraft guns Link of the gun?
 * No article exists. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 04:32, 15 March 2020 (UTC)


 * This specification was based an expectation that the Strait of Otranto --> "This specification has based an expectation that the Strait of Otranto"?
 * No, that's not right. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 04:32, 15 March 2020 (UTC)

That's anything from me, nice work. This is also your 100th ARC right? I'd say congrats if this pass which easily would. :) Cheers. CPA-5 (talk) 11:06, 14 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks ! Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 04:32, 15 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Here you go. ;) Cheers. CPA-5 (talk) 22:27, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

Support from AustralianRupert
G'day, PM, nice work as usual. I have a few minor comments/suggestions, but otherwise this looks like it meets the A-class criteria to me: AustralianRupert (talk) 00:15, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
 * in the lead, During the interwar period, T7 and the rest of the navy --> During the interwar period, T6 and the rest of the navy"?
 * Damn cut-and-paste... Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 01:43, 28 March 2020 (UTC)


 * citations seem consistently formatted (no action required)
 * in the References, do we know Dickson's first name?
 * Fixed. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 01:43, 28 March 2020 (UTC)


 * sources seem to be reliable based upon publishers, authors and or citations to those works in other reliable sources (no action required)
 * there are no duplicate links (no action required)
 * the image has alt text (no action required)
 * the Huszár-class destroyer Csikós, accompanied by 93 F and two other 250t-class boats, were pursued --> "the Huszár-class destroyer Csikós, along with 93 F and two other 250t-class boats, were pursued"?
 * Done. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 01:43, 28 March 2020 (UTC)


 * Is there any information regarding what the boat did in 1918 before the end of the war, and then between 1918 and 1920?
 * Nothing more on naval action during the war, I assume they were in reserve under Italian control, but I haven't seen anything confirming that. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 01:43, 28 March 2020 (UTC)


 * The ships and crews made a very good impression while visiting Malta --> suggest stating upon whom they made this impression
 * Done. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 01:43, 28 March 2020 (UTC)


 * do we know if the ship was active between 1932 and 1941?
 * Very sparse information, common with minor navies like the Yugoslav one, I assume little if any naval exercises, as they would have been mentioned by the British attache in Jarman. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 01:43, 28 March 2020 (UTC)


 * the normal tools for checking external and dab links are down at the moment, but a manual check shows the article is fine in this regard (no action required)
 * all information in the infobox appears to be in the body of the article (no action required)
 * Thanks for taking a look,, all done I think. Cheers, Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 01:43, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
 * No worries, added my support now. Regards, AustralianRupert (talk) 03:35, 28 March 2020 (UTC)