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Caspian expeditions of the Rus
Advice is needed on how the article could be developed further, and whether there are POV or other issues that need addressing. In addition, I don't feel comfortable with the word "expeditions" in the title; maybe a better alternative can be proposed. Beit Or 18:52, 19 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Please see automated peer review suggestions here. Thanks, AZ t 22:42, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

Wandalstouring
The article could be part of an overview about the military activities of the Rus. I remember the siege of Constantinople. While the number of ships is mentioned, we should give roughly the number of men ~100 per ship in the raid on Constantinople for example.

Expeditions sounds quite OK, the objective were not only spoils, as the article tells. I see no POV issues. Perhaps a map of the region and the political entities you are talking about and some images of how the Rus warriors looked and how their ships looked. Wandalstouring 21:43, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

oldwindybear
I agree with Wandalstouring, this could be part of an overview article on the military activities of the Rus. We ought to relate their activities to the "Viking" era, and a better description of their tactics and weapons could be very useful. old windy bear 19:42, 29 October 2006 (UTC)


 * We should be very careful with that. my idea was writting about the Rus's expeditions to the Caspian Sea and to Constantinople while it might also be helpful to create an overview of the Rus' military expeditions or somehow a guide so you can easily find all other expeditions if you found one. Comparing them to the Viking only brings you close to the "Normanist-theory", I assume it would be better to mention the Viking, Baltic (Baltics, Finns and Slavs) pirates and the Rus' because the used a similar technique with their rapid boats and longships for surprise and great troop numbers. In combat they massively used of longbows and axes. This is also confirmed by the Hanseatic League that still faced trouble with similar equipped Baltic pirates, when the Vikings no longer posed a threat. Wandalstouring 20:02, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

Wandalstouring Yes, that was precisely what I had in mind. They were still using similiar weapons and tactics long after the Vikings had faded into history. You have touched on what I wanted = and what I want to avoid as well. old windy bear 03:46, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

UberCryxic
Let's see....


 * Any chance of getting some images in there? They don't have to be about these events specifically, but maybe some pictures of the Rus or their areas of activity wouldn't hurt.
 * Citations. The article is extensively cited for its size, but one quote is missing a citation.
 * Any social implications due to these mass invasions and movement of peoples?
 * Nicely written.UberCryxic 02:44, 24 October 2006 (UTC)