Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Peer review/Frank Gorenc

Frank Gorenc
I am adding this article for review. Scott. Skottieboyy2k (talk) 21:33, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

YellowMonkey
Well you haven't said what you goal with this article is, but if you were even looking for B-Class, it will need sources other that military press releases etc, and more prose instead of just a CV type listing. Other things
 * Refs need to be filled out with details
 * Slovenia was not an indept country when he was born
 * How did he come to the US? refugee? normal immigration?
 * Images need more copyright detail, simply saying USAF isn't enough for verifiability. Did it come from a book or website? This needs to be specified

 YellowMonkey  ( vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll )  01:32, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

AustralianRupert
Good start so far, I have a few comments: Anyway, that is it. Good luck with improving this article. Cheers. — AustralianRupert (talk) 05:47, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
 * stacking of the images produces a large amount of whitespace on my screen between the Education and Publications sections;
 * the headings shouldn't be capitalised the way the are, for example "Early Life and Journey to America" should be "Early life and journey to America" (all the other section heading will also need to be changed in this regard, too);
 * I suggest changing the name of "Commission and General Career" to "Military career"
 * some of the images are very large, I suggest reducing their size so they don't dominate the article so much, also is there a need for so many images?
 * the See also section has a lot of whitespace on my screen due to the placement of images;
 * the References section should be above the External links section;
 * the citations currently show the long url chains, I suggest formatting them with the cite web template, which will automatically embed them;
 * Citation # 7 is to a wiki article. It might seem a bit counterintuitive, however, we do not consider ourselves an appropriate reference, so it should be removed from the citations (it can, however, be included as an internal link);
 * the ribbon links/boxes (USAF, USAFE, Links to related articles, etc.) should go at the bottom of the article;
 * per the WP:MOS, quotation marks should be straight (e.g. ") not curly. In the Early life section you have used curly quotation marks;
 * date ranges should have endashes per WP:DASH;
 * dates of rank and awards also need citations to WP:RS;

Ian Rose
This is looking a lot better than when I first saw it and if you continue as you are, it should be quite good by the end of it. Apart from what the guys have said above, you want to avoid too many lists. The details in the Education section should turned into prose, and integrated at appropriate spots into his story, chronologically - likewise Assignments and Dates of Ranks. That's all for now, may have some more later. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 01:11, 20 March 2010 (UTC)