Wikipedia:WikiProject Music/Noticeboard/Archive 1

Welcome to the Music Noticeboard! Post any requests for music-related articles here, and use this space for any other discussions regarding music-related articles on Wikipedia in general. Please post under the appropriate headline, or create a new one if this is needed. To comment on or suggest Music Portal Featured Article candidates, please see Portal:Music/Featured_articles/Suggest.

=Suggestions for Music Portal features=

Piano

 * article
 * suggestion

World music

 * article
 * suggestion

=Music articles at Peer Review=

The Reputation

 * article
 * peer review

Number 1's (Mariah Carey album)

 * article
 * peer review

X&Y

 * article
 * peer review

Chord

 * article
 * peer review

The Smashing Pumpkins

 * article
 * peer review

The KLF discography

 * article
 * peer review

1987 (What the Fuck Is Going On?)

 * article
 * peer review

Fuck the Millennium

 * article
 * peer review

Herb Alpert

 * article
 * peer review

Bette Davis

 * article
 * peer review

Alison Krauss

 * article
 * peer review

The Doors

 * article
 * peer review

Arctic Monkeys

 * article
 * peer review

I Believe in You

 * article
 * peer review

John Mayer

 * article
 * peer review

=Music articles that are currently Featured Article candidates=

Mandy Moore

 * article
 * candidacy

Led Zeppelin

 * article
 * candidacy

The Beatles
featured article review
 * article
 * review

= Requests for new music-related articles =

Claude Challe
Pretty famous and composes awesome music. There's no article on him. I am surprised. deeptrivia (talk) 06:58, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

Requested Articles
I'm working on The KLF discography and when looking for articles to link to I seem to have found a curious ommission - an article about the business of distributing records. I'm requesting that someone create an article, even if it's only a stub. Record distributor had 5 incoming links. Also missing is an article on Rough Trade Distribution, a major independent UK distributor (as part of The Cartel) that went bankrupt in ~1992. --kingboyk 23:34, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

Jolie Christine Rickman
Hello, could someone please create an article about Jolie Christine Rickman. Thank you! eLNuko 16:08, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Done. --Folajimi 00:17, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

= Music-related articles in need of help =

Music articles that need attention
Some of these may not be on your topic, feel free to remove them if this is so.


 * Many music articles need to be made more clear to the lay reader (see:Explain jargon and Guide to writing better articles). These include music, interval (music), and scale (music).


 * Pink Fairies - needs NPOVing. JesseW 02:06, 15 Nov 2004 (UTC)
 * Schreck ensemble - not clear what needs doing. Is it good enough already? JesseW 02:36, 15 Nov 2004 (UTC)
 * Was in terrible shape. Did a big overhaul. MarkBuckles 10:31, 25 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Sanguma - rewrite JesseW 02:36, 15 Nov 2004 (UTC)
 * Little Roger and the Goosebumps - unformatted JesseW 02:36, 15 Nov 2004 (UTC)
 * Linn Records - stub JesseW 02:36, 15 Nov 2004 (UTC)
 * Phantom Regiment - stub JesseW 02:36, 15 Nov 2004 (UTC)
 * Ringside Recording Studios - substub JesseW 02:36, 15 Nov 2004 (UTC)
 * Renaissance (band) - "POV problems" JesseW 02:36, 15 Nov 2004 (UTC)
 * Independent Radio - "needs work" JesseW 02:36, 15 Nov 2004 (UTC)
 * GG Allin needs POV clean up very badly. Dalf | Talk 20:18, 25 August 2005 (UTC)
 * synth rock needs clean up/complete re-write baldy Groundfloor 06:22, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Pierre K - Quite self explanatory, look for yourself! --66.82.9.82 19:00, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Deleted ("Unsigned, undistribute mashup DJ: A7").  Λυδ α  cιτγ  14:23, 25 July 2006 (UTC)


 * The children of Category:Dance artists by country are all inconsistently titled and (eek) Capitalized inconsistent With Naming Convention... Samaritan 16:57, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Category deleted ("Per CFD June 24").  Λυδ α  cιτγ  14:23, 25 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Hip hop collaborations contains a ridiculous amount of errors, and I need help converting its code. Please help! --Phantasy Phanatik 09:09, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Sintir needs the atention of someone with knowledge of African instruments. A photograph would be great as well... Francisco Valverde 16:02, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Krakebs is another African musical instrument with only a very small stub article. --Francisco Valverde 16:14, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Red Hot Chili Peppers unsourced maxcap 01:18, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Seems to be sourced now.  Λυδ α  cιτγ  14:24, 25 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Singing Short, not detailed, no pictures, uninteresting, needs cleanup. Tom Stringham 00:24, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
 * The below are vital articles that should be at least Good Articles, from the List of articles all languages should have (in music and composers and musicians).  Λυδ α  cιτγ  14:45, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Classical
 * Gamelan
 * Indian classical
 * Jazz
 * Opera
 * Pop
 * Rock and roll
 * Soul
 * Symphony
 * Ludwig van Beethoven
 * Frédéric Chopin
 * Antonín Dvořák
 * Aretha Franklin
 * Edvard Grieg
 * Gustav Mahler
 * Claudio Monteverdi
 * Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart
 * Elvis Presley
 * Jean Sibelius
 * Richard Wagner
 * Drum
 * Flute
 * Guitar
 * Piano
 * Trumpet
 * Violin
 * Compact disc
 * Song

Unknown music genre
I am looking of a definition of a music/song genre, a kind of "urban musical folklore". Its distinctive feature is that it is related with a specific modern profession or occupation. (I say "modern", to distinguish the most obvious example of "cowboy songs" of country music). These songs usually target a particular professional audience, heavyly loaded with professional slang and humor.

Some examples:

The latter one goes something like,
 * Les Horribles Cernettes, "the one and only High Energy Rock Band" from CERN.
 * Filk music
 * The one I am particularty interested and trying to look up. In late 1960s or early 1970s, IBM released an LP full of parodies of pop songs with context related to computers. I remember two of them:
 * Press the Magic Button
 * Memory D'Amour (a pun on Melodie D'Amour by The Ames Brothers)
 * I've bought a terminal
 * The day I lost my gal
 * ... etc.
 * Now I have girls galore
 * I my new mem'ry core
 * I put them on disk file
 * To store them for a while... etc.
 * Refrain:
 * Memory d'amour,
 * Put the core to the printer
 * Or to the display
 * Please without delay.

I'd very much like to see two things: the article about the genre and the info about this IBM music. Surprisingly, I cannot find its traces in the internet. mikka (t) 20:25, 8 September 2005 (UTC)

Music stores?/Record shop
66.167.252.251 06:56, 12 September 2005 (UTC): It would be useful to have an article about the role that music stores and virtual equivalents like iTunes Music Store play in the music scene. In particular, indepdendent stores like Music Millennium can sometimes become part of the local music culture. I expected to find a way to get to such a topic on this portal but never saw one. Perhaps it could be related to the topic of the music industry.

I create Record shop, thanks to improve it !

Technical help needed
Would someone with a background in technical music writing please take a look at Talk:Dixie (song)? The source I used to write most of the main "Dixie (song)" article gives a quite technical description of the song, which flies right over my head. I've bulleted the points he makes on the talk page in the hopes that someone who understands his terminology will translate into common English and determine whether any of it deserves inclusion in the main article. Thanks! BrianSmithson 15:57, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

help with peer review of rapping
Peer review/Rapping/archive3

Need someone to copy edit
Can someone edit American Boychoir School. It was my first major editing job and it should be reviewed. Thanks. Wangster 18:33, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

Improvement drive
Two related topics, Percussion instrument and Rhythm and blues have been nominated to be improved on WP:IDRIVE. Come and support the nomination there or comment on it.--Fenice 07:30, 13 August 2005 (UTC)

Peer comments on Tool (band)
Hi folks, I would like to ask you a favor: I have been working on the Tool article for almost a year now and would like to pass it on to Peer review pretty soon. Before doing so, I would be interested in any qualified comments by co-editors who have already written good or featured articles in the same field. Like I said, any comments are welcome. Of course, if anyone is interested for my comments in exchange, I'd be more then glad to help out. Best wishes. --Johnnyw 19:33, 14 April 2006 (UTC)


 * That's a pretty... complete... article there. I haven't had a chance to go through the whole thing yet, but my initial reaction is that the intro is way too big and rather messy to read. It's one of the dangers of good citations, I'd be willing to bet. I'd move to have the intro cut down to the basics and move the important citations to the body of the article in some fashion, but that's an initial reaction; I'll give it a proper read later. Xinit 23:43, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

Rhythmic mode
For over one year now, Rhythmic mode has required someone who knows something about music to take a looks at it. Hyacinth has presented specifications of what is required on the article's talk page. It would be cool if someone could head over there and help out.--Commander Keane 21:23, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

The Popular Front
I ran across this Musical group "The Popular Front" article recently. Can someone find otu more about the nobility of this band and clean up or mark for CSD/AFD as needed? I would like to but I don't know enough about music to really make a good determination or not. - Hbdragon88 06:36, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

Arioso
I've translated Arioso from fr:Arioso. Being not a specialist in music, I thought I'd bring it to your attention, to see if it makes any sense at all! --Wonderfool 10:29, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

In need of some assisatnce - Lists
I am almost finished fixing the naming conventions on the List of songs about drugs page, and have found similar musical lists which need fixing in the same way and don't think I can do it on my own as I may go crazy. If anyone would like to help me then I'd be very thankful. I'm asking this here because people involved in this WikiProject will be more likely to know how to make the needed changes. Here's the pages I have in mind so far (and what needs to be done):


 * List of songs about tequila (italics need changed to quote marks around songs)
 * Done. Took two seconds to change the italics to quotes, and a few more seconds to check the diff.  Λυδ α  cιτγ  21:17, 25 June 2006 (UTC)


 * List of songs under one minute in length (quote marks around song names)
 * Done. This one took a lot longer because of the varying formats.  Λυδ α  cιτγ  23:16, 27 June 2006 (UTC)


 * List of songs over fifteen minutes in length (removal of excessive linking - a lot of entries link to the band name, even though they are in a section which the name links there already)
 * Done.  Λυδ α  cιτγ  19:50, 28 July 2006 (UTC)


 * List of Halloween songs (quote marks around song names)
 * Done.  Λυδ α  cιτγ  04:43, 8 July 2006 (UTC)


 * List of Christmas number one singles (quote marks)
 * Done. The articles pertaining to it could use some work, its not very through. CraigP 02:20, 13 July 2006 (UTC)


 * List of songs about Manchester (quote marks)
 * Done.  Λυδ α  cιτγ  16:31, 13 July 2006 (UTC)


 * List of songs about Omaha, Nebraska (quote marks, and perhaps changing around of the artist and song name)
 * Done. Didn't change around the names, though - I can if it makes sense.  Λυδ α  cιτγ  16:31, 13 July 2006 (UTC)


 * List of patriotic songs (quote marks again)
 * Done.  Λυδ α  cιτγ  23:39, 16 July 2006 (UTC)


 * List of songs about World War II (quote marks, this is a bit shorter than the others)
 * Done. CraigP 02:30, 13 July 2006 (UTC)


 * List of Beatles songs by singer (quote marks)
 * Done.  Λυδ α  cιτγ  02:51, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

I also need a second opinion on the List of songs about drugs article about changing all the — marks to "by". Aa you can see, it's a lot of work to be done and I'm sure there are more lists that also need work. I severly doubt I can do this alone. Tartan 16:26, 25 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Do you have Firefox? If so, use User:Cacycle/editor - it'll save you a ton of time. I'll get started on the simple search-and-replace stuff.  Λυδ α  cιτγ  21:03, 25 June 2006 (UTC)


 * I don't. I'm not even sure what that is (the Cacyle thing)... *laughs nervously* Tartan 21:04, 25 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Replied on your talk page.  Λυδ α  cιτγ  21:20, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

All done! Praise User:Cacycle/editor.  Λυδ α  cιτγ  19:51, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
 * claps* Thanks very much! I haven't been around much to edit over the summer holidays here... it's a very lazy time for me. Tartan 13:10, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Atwater-Donnelly
I created this article for Atwater-Donnelly, a long-established folk group in Rhode Island. Aubrey tours nationally (and internationally - my web site for her got her a gig in England because she was the first one to come up when the Englishman was looking for info). She also regularly runs workshops at places like the John C. Campbell Folk School.

I'm just not sure how to correctly put all this info in the article to make it properly encyclopedic. Anybody else here know them, or know how to properly back up my claims? Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by SarekOfVulcan (talk • contribs)

Touring label
Hi! I just noticed the new article touring label, which is not written in a particularly encyclopedic style. At the end of the article, it mentions that the term was coined by G. David Daniels of WCA Entertainment, who also appears to be the author of the article. (User:Ddaniels@wca-entertainment.com). If someone who is familiar with the music industry could glance over the article, and sort out whether it's describing a recognized phenomenon or just promoting WCA Entertainment, it would be great. Thanks! FreplySpang 17:58, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

= WikiProject discussion =

Electronic music WikiProject
There's a new WikiProject started for improving the Electronic music categories. If you're interested in helping, then take a look at WikiProject Electronic music. Hagbard Celine 18:31, 24 November 2005 (UTC)

WikiMusic
Hi all, I would like to point out here that on Meta a WikiMusic is proposed. Please look here for details, and please support the wiki:De proposalpage. Without communitysupport there will be no wikimusic :( effeietsanders 23:06, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

MusicBrainz wikiproject
I've started a wikiproject to link applicable articles to MusicBrainz. Information on it can be found here and here. Dread Lord C y b e r S k u l l ✎☠ 12:18, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

Musical Artist Project
Is there currently a Wikiproject for Musical Artists (bands, groups, ensembles, &c)? If not, is there a specific reason or has it just not come about? If there isn't one, and there isn't a reason not to have one, then I'm proposing the creation of one. This proposal can be discussed on my user page, and if you support the creation of the project, please add you name to this list. A very preliminary pre-project page exists in my user space, here. bmearns, KSC(talk) 20:41, 6 March 2006 (UTC)


 * This project jas been officially started at WikiProject Musicians  B. Mearns * , KSC 19:49, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

An invitation to all members of this project
 WikiProject Arts

Announcing the creation of WikiProject Arts, an effort to create a collaboration between all arts projects and artistically-minded Wikipedians in order to improve arts coverage. If you think you can help, please join us!

H AM  18:04, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

READ THIS PLEASE
Calling all musical wrestling fans: I am starting a wikiproject devoted to the music of wrestling, such as entrances and PPV themes, as well as WWE produced albums. Anyone interested in joining, please leave a message on my talk page or add yourself to the list on Moe Epsilon's. Please assist, and thank you! In the words of Mr. Mick "Mankind/Cactus Jack/Dude Love" Foley, HAVE A NICE DAY!!! Kingfisherswift 16:46, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

= Other notices =

please vote at vfd
Articles_for_deletion/Futuristic_Sex_Robotz...please vote!--Urthogie 10:41, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

How to categorise "Indigenous Australian music" or "Native American music"?
Both world music and folk music seem to poorly capture the sense of music both traditional and new played and created in the sense of say Indigenous Australian music or Native American music. Please join the discussion at Talk:Indigenous music Paul foord 14:15, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

Quality standards
I have set up a more detailed replacement for the project page's loose list of guidelines. It is also a music-specific version of Cleanup. Take a look at WikiProject Music/MUSTARD. Tuf-Kat 19:30, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

Super DJ Clark Kent up for deletion
Super DJ Clark Kent is up for deletion, and it's starting to look ugly in Articles for deletion/Super DJ Clark Kent. If anyone has some time to chime in, please do so. Thanks. hateless 18:07, 27 July 2006 (UTC)