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The Colorado state 2012-archived copy of Colorado state list of delisted NRHP properties. Is there a current version?

Many original notes below identified data errors in a NRIS database version of 2013. It is possible some have since been corrected in NRIS, as evidenced by spreadsheets on listings up to June 28, 2022 and on removed properties up to June 28, 2022 available for download (as of November 25, 2022) at "Data downloads" page: https://www.nps.gov/subjects/nationalregister/data-downloads.htm. I have downloaded copies of those. Henceforth call the listings one "Data-download-listings-2022-06-28". --Doncram (talk,contribs) 19:55, 25 November 2022 (UTC)

Documentation

 * The NRHP nomination document provided for First National Bank Building (Craig, Colorado), refnum 97000793, in Moffat County, Colorado is not correct; what is provided at https://npgallery.nps.gov/NRHP/GetAsset/NRHP/97000793_text is instead about a site in South Dakota. The corresponding photos document is correct. --Doncram (talk) 15:03, 27 September 2018 (UTC)
 * UPDATE: Hey, the document at https://npgallery.nps.gov/NRHP/GetAsset/NRHP/97000793_text now is the correct one, about the bank, yay! Article already uses the correct version at NARA. --Doncram (talk,contribs) 00:02, 27 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Boulder County Courthouse's Additional Documentation of 2018, with refnum=AD80000878, is included as 17 pages within main NRHP document in NPS's 187-page version, but it is not included in NARA's version of NRHP nomination, a 166-page PDF, which includes 1978 text and photos but not 2018 AD. That will be fine, and even better, if the Additional Documentation gets posted by NARA, but it is not there now, when search on 80000878, AD80000878, other. --Doncram (talk) 20:29, 25 October 2022 (UTC)


 * The documentation for this was discussed at wt:NRHP, at Boulder_County_Courthouse item within this version of wt:NRHP. Editor 25or6to4 was the one who found the AD doc hidden within the NPS version. --Doncram (talk,contribs) 00:07, 27 November 2022 (UTC)

Property names

 * Loveland State Amory in Larimer County, Colorado: assuming that this should be "Armory", and that it's not some building for amours :-) Nyttend (talk) 18:53, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
 * batch03:17
 * It is in 20220628 spreadsheet still as "Loveland State Amory", needs fix to Armory. NRHP registration document uses Loveland State Armory, so this appears to be a typo in NRIS entry. --Doncram (talk) 03:29, 23 September 2022 (UTC)


 * John and Elvira Doud House in Denver: correct to John and Elivera Doud House per its NRHP nomination form. Nyttend (talk) 16:31, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Castle Rock Elementry School in Douglas County: correct "elementry" to "elementary". Nyttend (talk) 11:51, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
 * In Pueblo County, an NRIS name per NRHP infobox generator is "Indian Petroglyphs and Pictographs", but that doesn't seem like a very defining name, and National Register of Historic Places listings in Pueblo County, Colorado was set up to create article at Turkey Creek Canyon Rock Art District. History Colorado page title is "Indian Petroglyphs & Pictographs / Turkey Creek Canyon Rock Art District".  How was this listed in NPS weekly announcement of listings?  It was listed May 3, 1976, has 480 acre area, refnum = 76000566.  What should name be, and should there be a name change? --Doncram (talk) 02:04, 25 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Weekly list PDFs at NPS go back only to 1988, but Federal Register this 1979 Federal Register PDF document list starting page 225 or so, states all listings previous to 1979. Under Colorado / Pueblo County, here is what is listed for it: "Penrose vicinity. INDIAN PETROGLYPHS AND PICTOGRAPHS, E of Penrose, (5-3-76)".  For comparison other items are "Pueblo. BAXTER HOUSE, 325 W. 15th SL, (2-17-78)" and "Pueblo. PITKIN PLACE HISTORIC DISTRICT, S side of 300 block W. Pitkin PL, (1-31-78)".  So it seems to be NRHP-listed as "Indian Petroglyphs and Pictographs".  Further to me it seems that Turkey Creek Canyon Rock Art District (currently a redlink) is indeed the better article name, and that Indian Petroglyphs and Pictographs (currently a redlink) should redirect to that.  The NRHP article should show "Indian Petroglyphs and Pictographs" in bold in the lede and that is what should appear in an NRHP infobox. --Doncram (talk) 02:25, 25 October 2022 (UTC)

State/county issue

 * Phillips Brothers Mill, which is located in Oak Run, California, in Shasta County, California, refnum 02001406, also has an NRHP listing given in Oak Run, Colorado, in Shasta County, Colorado, with listing status DR, refnum 02001255. This information seems to have been entirely wrong, and to have been corrected in the later California one's listing. Should the register entry be deleted?  It's informative about what DR status can mean, i guess. --doncram (talk) 14:39, 28 March 2010 (UTC)
 * It shows only in Shasta County, Colorado, in 2022 NRHP spreadsheet. --Doncram (talk) 01:36, 26 October 2022 (UTC)

Town location issue

 * De Beque House in De Beque, Colorado is listed in DeBeque, Colorado. Nyttend (talk) 14:11, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
 * batch03:15


 * US Post Office-Manitou Springs Main (El Paso County, Colorado) is listed in "Mainitou Springs, Colorado", rather than Manitou Springs. Nyttend (talk) 16:45, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
 * batch03:16


 * Black Squirrel Creek Bridge is located near Falcon, Colorado, not as listed in the NRHP as "Falcom". doncram (talk) 03:01, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
 * batch04:05


 * Francisco Plaza is misidentified as being in "Le Veta", when in fact it is located at 312 S. Main St. in La Veta, Colorado. It's to be La, not Le.  Lamme Hospital, on the same street, is correctly identified as being in La Veta. doncram (talk) 07:38, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
 * batch04:06


 * Gustav and Annie Swanson Farm, at 1932 N. State Highway 287 in Berthoud, Colorado, is listed by NRIS as being in Bethoud, misspelled, instead. There are 2 other NRHP listings located in Berthoud. doncram (talk) 00:54, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
 * batch04:07

Address issues

 * Hutchinson Ranch (Boundary Increase) in Chaffee County, Colorado is listed along the nonexistent Interstate 50, rather than U.S. Route 50. Nyttend (talk) 15:15, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
 * batch06:02


 * McClintock Building and Riverside Cemetery in Denver are listed along "Califorinia St." and "Brighton Bboulevard" respectively. Nyttend (talk) 16:18, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
 * batch06:03-04. Apparently should change to California St. and Brighton Boulevard.


 * In 2022 NRHP spreadsheet, address still messed up for McClintock Building, as "1550-58 Califorinia St./622-40 16th St."
 * And Riverside Cemetery is "5201 Brighton Blvd." - this one was fixed. --Doncram (talk) 01:43, 26 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Tobasco Mine and Mill in Lake City, Colorado (Hinsdale County) is listed as being south of "Hinesdale County Road 34". Nyttend (talk) 14:42, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
 * batch06:05. Apparently should be Hinsdale County Road 34.


 * The Austin Building in Denver, Austin Building (Denver, Colorado) (shows as a redlink 10/25/2022, and is included in National Register of Historic Places listings in Northeast Denver, Colorado) is given at "2400-2418 E. Colfax and 1742 Josephine St.": while both are actual addresses, they're several blocks away from each other, and the building would have to span several streets. 1472 Josephine shows a building at the proper location.  Nyttend (talk) 12:47, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
 * '''Temple Emanuel is listed at 24 Curtis St. in Denver; Denver's city map website says that there is no such address, and a local photographer says (in the image description for his photo of the building) that it's 2400 Curtis. Nyttend (talk) 22:28, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
 * The NRHP doc for it lists it at 2400 Curtis St. Spreadsheet 20220628 still shows 24, NRIS still needs to be fixed to 2400. --[[User:Doncram|Doncram] (talk) 03:40, 23 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Colorado has it at "Address: 2400 Curtis, Denver2400 Curtis, Denver" (cut&paste) ""Address: 2400 Curtis, Denver2400" is what i see which is a bit garbled. HC Temple Emanuel'''


 * Enterprise Hill Historic District in Denver is listed as being "Bounded by 21st and 22nd Aves., Tremont and Glenarm Pls". Neither Tremont nor Glenarm intersect either 21st or 22nd Aves., and NRIS-provided coords place this district between Tremont/Glenarm and 21st/22nd Sts., which are quite different from 21st/22nd Aves.  Correct 21st and 22nd Aves. to 21st and 22nd Sts.  Nyttend (talk) 14:30, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
 * '''The Helene Apartment Building in Denver is listed at 1052 Pearl St., but this photo and the Colorado Historical Society both place it at 1062 Pearl St. Nyttend (talk) 23:21, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Per 2022 NRIS spreadsheet, it is "1052 Pearl St."'''


 * The Motor Coach Division Building-Denver Tramway Company is listed at 3500 Gilpin Street, but this is a vacant lot. I took a picture of this building, and it is on the north side of 35th Avenue between Franklin and Gilpin streets. The picture is here. The address of the building is really on 35th Avenue, but none was visible on the structure. The grass in the photo is at what would be at 3500 Gilpin Street.
 * Von Trotha-Firestien Farm at Bracewell is shown in the county NRHP listing as "Address Restricted". Its article, however, gives the address as "at the intersection of "O" Street and 83rd Avenue, northwest of Greeley, Colorado.. . . . Jim . . . . Jameslwoodward (talk • contribs)  00:21, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
 * The farm (owners) has their own webpage giving its location: https://www.bracewellfarm.com/
 * This is listed as ADDRESS RESTRICTED in 2022 NRHP spreadsheet, that should be changed. --Doncram (talk) 01:49, 26 October 2022 (UTC)


 * The address for the Manhattan Hotel in Salida, Chaffee County is listed as 225 F. Street, but the building there doesn't match the description. I think the building is really along the river at 228 N. F Street. Jeffrey Beall (talk) 23:36, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
 * The Methodist Episcopal Church is listed at 1414 Colorado Boulevard in Idaho Springs in Clear Creek County, but there isn't a building with that street number. There is a church at 1410 Colorado Boulevard, but it doesn't match the description found here. However, there is a church that does match the description at 1440 Colorado, Boulevard. See Google Maps. I think that is the church in question. Jeffrey Beall (talk) 21:17, 22 October 2011 (UTC)
 * The Ponderosa Lodge is listed at 920 N. Cascade in Colorado Springs in El Paso County, but the nomination form lists it at 6145 Shoup Road.Jeffrey Beall (talk) 12:48, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Pueblo County's St. Charles Bridge (Pueblo, Colorado) is listed as being on County Road 65, but I found the bridge to be on 27th Lane. Jeffrey Beall (talk) 12:28, 26 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Temple Emanuel (Pueblo, Colorado) is listed in NRIS2013a as being at 1425 N. Grand Ave. while in fact it is at 1325 N. Grand Ave. The NRHP document shows 1325.  Google maps shows 1325. --Doncram (talk) 00:15, 6 June 2021 (UTC)

Demolished but still listed

 * The Wheeler House, located at 1917 W. 32nd Avenue in Denver, has apparently been destroyed: this picture shows the site, which is obviously not occupied by the Late Victorian house from 1875 that is listed on the Register. Nyttend (talk) 01:00, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Wheeler House is identified as "Removed from State Register 12/17/2009" in archived 2012 OAHP document. That document appears to link to a Wheeler-specific document at http://oahp.historycolorado.org/programareas/register/1503/cty/pdfs/5DV425.pdf, but that URL doesn't work. (And Wayback machine did not archive that URL.) --Doncram (talk) 16:28, 25 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Wheeler House was removed from NRHP on January 14, 2010, per National_Register_of_Historic_Places_listings_in_west_Denver.


 * [[Image:Wolcott, Colorado.JPG|thumb|150px|right|The "New" Wolcott Bridge.]] According to one of the Colorado Historical Society's webpages (http://www.coloradohistory-oahp.org/programareas/register/1503/cty/ea.htm#wolcott but URL no longer works in 2022]), the Wolcott Bridge was replaced with a new one in 2005. I guess its removal hasn't made its way through the process yet. I went there to photograph it and learned later about its removal. Jeffrey Beall (talk) 13:03, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Wolcott Bridge was removed from NRHP March 20, 2011, per National Register of Historic Places listings in Eagle County, Colorado. --Doncram (talk) 16:43, 25 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Black Squirrel Creek Bridge, in El Paso County, replaced in 2012. Daniel Case (talk) 14:52, 15 December 2013 (UTC)
 * '''This one is truly demolished, lots of reporting in its Wikipedia page.
 * NRIS shows "Black Squirrel Creek Bridge" still listed, in spreadsheet downloaded by me 2022-06-28. --Doncram (talk) 16:43, 25 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Colorado SHPO shows still listed 2022, https://www.historycolorado.org/national-state-register-listed-properties El Paso County search'''


 * St. Charles River Bridge (Devine, Colorado) (Draft:St. Charles River Bridge (Devine, Colorado)), carrying US 50 over St. Charles River (Colorado), demolished in 2006, still listed on National Register in 2021. --Doncram (talk) 05:47, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
 * What evidence demolished? Note Addresses report below "St. Charles Bridge (Pueblo, Colorado) is listed as being on County Road 65, but I found the bridge to be on 27th Lane." Did i just look on wrong road? But how get 2006 year? --Doncram (talk) 22:57, 25 October 2022 (UTC)
 * NRIS shows "St. Charles River Bridge" still listed, in spreadsheet downloaded by me 2022-06-28. --Doncram (talk) 16:43, 25 October 2022 (UTC).
 * Colorado SHPO shows still listed 2022, https://www.historycolorado.org/national-state-register-listed-properties Pueblo County search --Doncram (talk) 22:03, 25 October 2022 (UTC)

Coordinates issues

 * Bear Canon Agricultural District in Douglas County, Colorado is placed at 39.39611°N, -105.96139°W, but 39.39611°N, -104.96139°W fits the description perfectly. Nyttend (talk) 06:15, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
 * batch02:05


 * The Boat Tow, known more commonly as Ski Lift No. 1, in Pitkin County, Colorado, is listed at 39.18722°N, -106.81056°W. This is some distance from its given address, 700 S. Aspen Street, and its actual location near there at 39.18694°N, -106.82222°W. Daniel Case (talk) 19:58, 16 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Fall River Entrance Historic District in Larimer County, Colorado, listed at °N, -109.48861°W: this places it on the Equator west of the Galapagos. It's also too far west, but significantly less; 109º29'19" is "only" in northeastern Utah.  Nyttend (talk) 19:49, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
 * batch02:06
 * I did try with NPS NRHP to get these coordinates updated, but i think got no reply, and on coordinates in general we chose to update on our own.
 * We now have improved coordinates for many (most?) Colorado NRHPs. Does Colorado SHPO have improved coordinates? --Doncram (talk) 16:50, 25 October 2022 (UTC)

Architects, builders, and architecture

 * The style of architecture for the Ogden Theatre in Denver is given as "Late 19th And 20th Century Revivals, Mediteranian Revival" — need to correct the spelling of "Mediterranean". Nyttend (talk) 13:04, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Charles H. Stickney House, Pueblo, Colorado. Architect name correction to William Halsey Wood not Wm Halsey Ward is needed. Multiple other NRHP listings nationwide, of buildings of this era, list William Halsey Wood, so i believe this is just a typo here, to be corrected. --doncram (talk) 14:16, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
 * St. Mary's Catholic Church (Colorado Springs, Colorado). Architect name correction to "Pease & Barber" from incorrect "Pease & Barker".  The second architect is in fact Thomas P. Barber.  See: . -- do  ncr  am  04:13, 16 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Trinity United Methodist Church (Denver, Colorado) was designed by Robert S. Roeschlaub, not "Roeschlamb". Need to fix in NRIS from "lamb" to "laub". -- do  ncr  am  15:08, 10 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Stonington First Methodist-Episcopal Church (refnum 96000272) is listed with builder = "Murry, W.S." but his name is "Murray, W.S." per the NRHP registration document. -- do ncr  am  18:32, 2 November 2017 (UTC)

Dates of significance issues

 * Union Pacific Railroad Julesburg Depot was built in 1930, was hit by a tornado in 1947, and was moved in 1974. All 3 should probably be identified as significant dates.  Per an article generator derived from NRIS, though, 1947 shows up as the first date, and is suggested as the built date, while  (the NRHP nomination) makes 1930 clear as the built date. -- do  ncr  am  12:52, 16 May 2013 (UTC)