Wikipedia:WikiProject Sri Lanka Reconciliation/LTTE digest

This page provides an overview over arguments regarding LTTE's status as a terrorist organization. Members, please feel free to edit that page so that it adequately summarizes the arguments brought forward here or in related discussions.

The page originated from User:SebastianHelm/LTTE, which was created to help me understand the different opinions when SebastianHelm mediated Mediation Cabal/Cases/2006-10-20 Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam. It was intended as his private summary and to provide transparency for the mediation. However, he did not spend any time to make it sound nice, and especially the abbreviations are idiosyncratic. Please feel free to make this more readable; ask on the talk page if something is unclear.

Digest for the 2006-10-20 mediation
The 2006-10-20 mediation was about the question whether the intro of the LTTE article should contain a passage like "LTTE is a terrorist organization". This section lists all facts and points the mediator could find in the discussions of 2006, both in the article talk page and the mediation page.

General abbreviations:

 * R = people who want the passage removed
 * K = people who want to keep the passage
 * SLG = Sri Lankan Government
 * "TT=TO" = considering or declaring LTTE a terrorist organiziation

Status:
The status column contains two characters; the first refers to statements of people who wanted the passage removed (R) and the second to people who want to keep the passage (K).
 * A = agrees
 * D = disagrees
 * a = mediator assumes they agree
 * d = mediator assumes they disagree
 * @ = agrees if it is backed up by reference

Articles for comparison
List of other articles about organizations that have been proscribed: (numbers are only what Sebastian remembered)

See also Category:Designated terrorist organizations and the list on Talk:Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam[.

Nuances
There are nuances for both R and K; "Nuance for K" means: This is a nuance the K faction (keepers) would like to see. By glossing over this nuance, we owe the K faction some points. Conversely for "argument for R". The mediator's hope was that, while it's impossible to give real numbers for the points and add them up against each other, parties could reach agreement that they come close enough to be omitted in the intro.

Some proposed intros
I'm also adding my first impression; this is not a definitive statement.


 * 1) 29 countries have banned the LTTE
 * 2) * Proposed by User:Tyronen on Talk:Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam,
 * 3) * endorsed by User:Ulflarsen
 * 4) The Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE), also known as the Tamil Tigers, is a politico-military organization that has been waging a secessionist campaign against the Sri Lankan government since the 1970s in order to secure a separate state for the Tamil majority regions in the North and East of Sri Lanka. Supporters of the LTTE refer to them as freedom fighters, however some countries consider them a terrorist organisation. Sri Lanka lifted their ban on the LTTE before signing the ceasefire agreement in 2002. The LTTE is headed by its reclusive founder, Velupillai Prabhakaran.
 * 5) * Proposed by User:Addhoc on Talk:Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam;
 * 6) * endorsed by User:Ulflarsen, User:Lankaupdate
 * 7) * contested by User:snowolfd4
 * 8) The Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE), also known as the Tamil Tigers, is a politico-military organization that has been waging a secessionist campaign against the Sri Lankan government since the 1970s in order to secure a separate state for the Tamil majority regions in the North and East of Sri Lanka. Supporters of the LTTE refer to them as freedom fighters; however, 29 countries have listed them as a terrorist organisation. Sri Lanka lifted their ban on the LTTE before signing the ceasefire agreement in 2002. The LTTE is headed by its reclusive founder, Velupillai Prabhakaran.
 * 9) * Proposed by User:Addhoc on Talk:Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam;
 * 10) * endorsed by User:Ulflarsen, User:Lankaupdate
 * 11) * contested by User:snowolfd4 (temporarily endorsed to protect page)
 * 12) The Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE), also known as the Tamil Tigers, is a politico-military organization that has been waging a secessionist campaign against the Sri Lankan government since the 1970s in order to secure a separate state for the Tamil majority regions in the North and East of Sri Lanka. Supporters of the LTTE refer to them as freedom fighters; however, 29 countries (see List) have listed them as a terrorist organisation. 161 other countries and the UN have not proscribed the LTTE. Sri Lankan government lifted the ban on the LTTE before signing the ceasefire agreement in 2002. The LTTE is headed by its 'reclusive' founder, Velupillai Prabhakaran.
 * 13) * Proposed by User:Trincomanb on Talk:Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam;
 * 14) * endorsed by User:snowolfd4 (with proposed compromise modification)
 * 15) * contested by User:Ulflarsen
 * 16) The Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE), also known as the Tamil Tigers, is a politico-military organisation that has been waging a secessionist campaign against the Sri Lankan government since the 1970s in order to secure a separate state for the Tamil majority regions in the North and East of Sri Lanka. Supporters of the LTTE refer to them as freedom fighters; however 29 of the 192 countries (see list) have labeled them as a terrorist organisation. The UN has not proscribed the LTTE. The Sri Lankan government lifted the ban on the LTTE before signing the ceasefire agreement in 2002. The LTTE is headed by its 'reclusive' founder, Velupillai Prabhakaran.
 * 17) * Proposed by User:Elalan on Talk:Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam;
 * 18) * endorsed by User:Trincomanb
 * 19) * contested by User:Ulflarsen
 * 20) The Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE), also known as the Tamil Tigers, is a politico-military organization that has been waging a secessionist campaign against the Sri Lankan government since the 1970s in order to secure a separate state for the Tamil majority regions in the North and East of Sri Lanka. Supporters of the LTTE refer to them as freedom fighters; however, 29 countries have listed them as a terrorist organisation. Sri Lanka lifted their ban on the LTTE before signing the ceasefire agreement in 2002. The LTTE is headed by its founder, Velupillai Prabhakaran.
 * 21) * Proposed by User:Addhoc on Talk:Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam;
 * 22) * endorsed by User:Ulflarsen
 * 23) * contested by User:Trincomanb
 * 24) The Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE), also known as the Tamil Tigers, is a politico-military organisation that has waged a secessionist campaign against the Sri Lankan government since the 1970s in order to secure a separate state for regions in the North and East, which contain a Tamil majority (formerly Ceylon). The sepratist group and de facto government has exhibited in the past Machiavellian, Draconian and zealous tendencies, earning them the ire of foreign nations, some even going to the extent as banning the group as terrorist. The head and founder of the LTTE is Velupillai Prabhakaran.
 * 25) * Sentence #1 & #3 sound OK, #2 contains emotive language (in both directions: first half sounds harsh on LTTE, second apologetic.)
 * 1) * Proposed by User:Addhoc on Talk:Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam;
 * 2) * endorsed by User:Ulflarsen
 * 3) * contested by User:Trincomanb
 * 4) The Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE), also known as the Tamil Tigers, is a politico-military organisation that has waged a secessionist campaign against the Sri Lankan government since the 1970s in order to secure a separate state for regions in the North and East, which contain a Tamil majority (formerly Ceylon). The sepratist group and de facto government has exhibited in the past Machiavellian, Draconian and zealous tendencies, earning them the ire of foreign nations, some even going to the extent as banning the group as terrorist. The head and founder of the LTTE is Velupillai Prabhakaran.
 * 5) * Sentence #1 & #3 sound OK, #2 contains emotive language (in both directions: first half sounds harsh on LTTE, second apologetic.)
 * 1) * Sentence #1 & #3 sound OK, #2 contains emotive language (in both directions: first half sounds harsh on LTTE, second apologetic.)

Criteria for terrorist organizations
"The term "terrorism" means premeditated, politically motivated violence perpetrated against noncombatant (1) targets by subnational groups or clandestine agents, usually intended to influence an audience." http://www.history.navy.mil/library/guides/terrorism.htm#definition

Postponed
Other statements that we may pick up once we settled this case:
 * "The LTTE article in its current form has section for proscription it but doesn't handle it well I should add. It is not succinctly explained what the implications of the labeling means in the group of countries, hence its 'goo' a of facts littered together." Elalan