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Mexico-musician-stub / Category:Mexican musician stubs

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Used on 14 articles, probably useful. --Mairi 05:16, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
 * keep combined article count with all children is over 60. Monni 13:47, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
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Florida-media-stub /

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Created today, used on 26 articles. Doesn't match the scope of any existing stubs, as it'd in theory include broadcast media and newspaper. However, it's only used on broadcast media, so it probably ought to be renamed to Florida-bcast-stub if it's worth keeping.
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Corsica-geo-stub / Category:Corsica geography stubs

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Yet another region of France. Used on 18 articles. --Mairi 06:25, 7 January 2006 (UTC)
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Limousin-geo-stub /

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Created today, for a region in France. Use on 3 articles. Maybe it'll get enough use? Mairi 06:51, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep, we need more stubs on luxury cars. Also there are only 26 regions of France, and since every commune seems to be headed for an article, they will need to be subdivided. Kappa 06:57, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep. The creator is in the process of filling every hole in Category:France geography stubs, which is in wikipedia's interest. He divides the parent category by région, which was ok'ed by WP:WSS/P IIRC, and he follows the naming conventions. I believe that we should give him the benefit of the doubt, and only act if a category hasn't reached the threshold in a substantial period of time. Aecis Mr.Mojorisin' 10:18, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
 * I say we leave him a heads up that we're checking this as it goes. Circeus 21:58, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
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Haute-Normandie-geo-stub /

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Created today, used on 46 articles. Worth keeping. --Mairi 00:52, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
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Hello! Project stub/(Category in &lt;noinclude&gt; tags)

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Created this afternoon (16 February). Doubtful that there's enough members/groups/albums to warrant a whole stub category. Should just be in Japan-band-stub Neier 12:22, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Actually, there are enough groups, individuals, and releases (albums, singles, etc.) to warrant the designation. A Wikiproject:Hello! Project has been in the works for sometime (I started it last December) with formal launch coming within the week. The creator of this stub is part of the Wikiproject. --CJ Marsicano 19:46, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Can you give some rough numbers and possibly some examples of what would be tagged with this stub type? --TheParanoidOne 20:11, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
 * At least the minimum 50 articles that such a stub requires; A lot of the individual band member profiles and many of the singles and albums are stub-sized. Admittedly, that includes some articles that need to be created. I'm going to have the cats who are joining me on WikiProject Hello! Project get busy on all this. --CJ Marsicano 21:24, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
 * The title doesn't look right, shouldn't it be hello-project-stub, or maybe H!P-stub ?
 * Well spotted. I suspect that Hello!Project-stub (i.e., the same as at present, but without the space) would be reasonable under the naming guidelines. Depends on whether the P is normally capitalised. and whether exclamation marks cause problems in template names. Anyone? Grutness...wha?  00:40, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Brother Grut and the anonymous brother who asked before him, the name is indeed capitalized, punctuated, and spaced correctly. If the exclamation point doesn't cause problems for the Hello! Project Wiki entry or Category:Hello! Project, I don't think it would pose any problems for the stub template. --CJ Marsicano 22:14, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
 * It may be okay for an article, but may not be for a template. And while the name of the article is spaced correctly, it is definitely not so for a stub template, as spaces are not used in stub template names. Grutness...wha?  03:40, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
 * What about the exclamation point? Is that still kosher? In that case, the stub template could always be renamed H!P-stub (no objections from my POV and it would make stubbing for myself and the other cats at WP:H!P easier. --CJ Marsicano 04:23, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Note: this was deleted once under similar circumstances. Conscious 05:47, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Circumstances are changing. :) --CJ Marsicano 06:16, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
 * A compromise - is Hello-stub too ambiguous? I suppose there's the greeting and "Hello Kitty", but I doubt it would be too easily confused with those - any thoughts? Grutness...wha?  22:33, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Brother Grutness, H!P-stub would be better and much less ambiguous, if it needs to be shortened. We at WP:H!P haven't had any problems typing the current stub code though! ; --CJ Marsicano 02:16, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
 * H!P-stub is far too close to the not-so-long-ago-deleted HP-stub. And the current name is definitely contrary to stub naming, so it should be renamed pronto. Grutness...wha?  05:40, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
 * I guess using HP-stub is out of the question then? Ugh. ANYTHING but the ridiculous Hello-stub. I still don't think the exclamation point would be a problem though. --CJ Marsicano 06:53, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, it seems to work ok on the current template, so probably isn't a problem. There's always a fear of stray characters being "special characters", so it's as well to be chary of having things like "!", "*" and the like in templates (after all, "|" would cause major problems). As to the name, HP-stub was being used for Harry Potter (it's now at HarryPotter-stub). Just dropping the space in the current name would keep WSS happy - how would Hello!Project-stub sit with WP:H!P? Grutness...
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Created 21 February 2006 without a proposal. I've adjusted the template and category. It currently has 15 articles. Worth keeping as there are quite a number of Mexican bands in band-stub. --Bruce1ee 05:44, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Has grown to 37 articles. --Bruce1ee 10:13, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Currently at 45 articles. --Bruce1ee 05:28, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Up to 49 articles. Caerwine Caerwhine 22:20, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
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Cat:Pakistani film stubs / Pakistan-film-stub

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The result of the debate was upmerge as per here

Created on March 30th without a locatable proposal. Might be useful, but has some formatting issues. Filed for now under Cat:Pakistan stubs Aelfthrytha 20:30, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
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Iceland-band-stub /

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Created 8 April 2006 without a proposal. It currently has 10 articles. I'm not sure about this one – I can't see it growing to 60. --Bruce1ee 07:18, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
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Ukraine-hist-stub

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This one seems to be an unproposed chip off an old category. Unfortunately, it is only used on a mere three articles. Valentinian (talk) 20:57, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
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dallas stub /

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Created 20 April, used on 13 articles, doesn't follow naming conventions. Should probably be upmerged. --CComMack 00:33, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
 * If there's a Dallas WikiProject then just renaming may be better - other than that I'd agree about an upmerge. I bet they're mainly geo-stubs, too. Grutness...<small style="color:#008822;">wha?  02:04, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
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running-stub / Category:Running stubs
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Found this stub with only 4 articles. There are many more from the sports-stub catagory that would better fit unber a running stub. I think the catagory should be created.Mike 20:20, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
 * I dont! this sounds like a duplicate of athletics-stub which i think it should redirect to. the majority of track and field athletics stubs will almost certainly be about running and all (or virtually all) running stubs will relate to track and field.  BL Lacertae -  kiss the lizard  04:01, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Didnt see the athletics stub before, good find! agree its a duplicate then.  Mike 04:51, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
 * I've listed it and another similar stub at SFD, though redirecting is probably a better option. Grutness...<small style="color:#008822;">wha?  05:26, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
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Turkey-band-stub /
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Created 13 May 2006 without a proposal. Looks well formed, but currently only has 7 articles. --Bruce1ee 08:05, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Up to 25 articles now – could be useful. --Bruce1ee 07:28, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
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Ukraine-hist-stub + cat (+ new redirect)
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I've not sure this quite counts as a "discovery", but as we don't have a "pointless recreations" sub-page; this was recreated 10 days after being deleted at SFD, and is still unneeded, unproposed, and most to the point, undersized. Some of the tagged articles, such as Polish Autonomous District, are exercises in quadruple-stubbing futility. I've gotten nowhere asking the (re)creator what he's up to, and would be highly tempted just to speedy this, but as original nominator, original deleter, and person-getting-annoyed-about-the-whole-thing, it might be wise for me to step away for a while. Alai 04:00, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
 * I've done the next best thing. I've speedy-deleted both the redirect and category, and turned the template into a redirect to Ukraine-stub. If it happens again, Irpen will need to be had a word with. Grutness...<small style="color:#008822;">wha?  06:02, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Seems to have happened again, mind you!  Alai 06:22, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
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93stub / Category:Thelema stubs
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 * Oddly named and undersized (26), also feeds into Category:Occult stubs. -- E ivindt@c 23:46, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
 * There seems to be a wikiproject, so it's just about OK, size-wise. Now, ask me why the wikiproject is linked to from article space templates, but not the stub page, or why the template's named as it is, and I'd only be able to say "that'd be why they call it 'occult'".  Rename, and fix categories.  Alai 20:53, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
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Gvrd-stub|Category:Greater Vancouver Regional District stubs
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Created March 1st, used on >200 articles, and part of wikiproject. Needs to be renamed. -- E ivindt@c 09:13, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
 * was dealt with by sfd in march but we forgot to rename the template. should be redirected to vancouver-stub or renamed vancouver-geo-stub.  BL Lacertae -  kiss the lizard  23:52, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
 * I closed that one, and no consensus to rename the template was evident; or indeed, even explicitly proposed.  The category was renamed:  if you think the current name is bad...  We can take another tilt at it on SFD if you like, but unless there's a consensus to delete gvrd-stub even as a redirect and mass-template-replace to some mouthful like GreaterVancouver-stub -- which I imagine the wikiproject will complain loudly against -- the net effect seems likely to be minimal (i.e. none, or moving the template and continuing to use the redirect).  Alai 00:11, 23 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Related, and also not listed at WP:WSS/ST, are BritishColumbia-stub/Category:British Columbia stubs, Vancouver-stub/Category:Vancouver stubs, and Vancouver-bio-stub, the last of which sorts articles into Category:Vancouver stubs rather than having its own. That'll make a future split easier, I guess. Anyway, I couldn't find any of them listed anywhere on this project except for right here, and they do have a project of their own, with whom I guess we should be in touch. They all seem well-formed and populated (90-ish articles per cat?), at a cursory glance. -GTBacchus(talk) 00:14, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
 * The bio-stub redirects to Vancouver stubs because we've made it if not policy then certainly a fairly strong guideline not to split bio-stubs by subnational regions where possible. people move around far too much and it's far easier to divide them by occupation. I'd agree that the template needs renaming though - I don't see much of a logical reason why Vancouver-x-stub can't refer to Greater Vancouver in the same way that London-geo-stub refers to Greater London rather than the city itself. Grutness...<small style="color:#008822;">wha?  02:45, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
 * For one thing, there is really no definition of "London" other than "Greater London"; it certainly never refers to either of the component cities (stricto sensu).  When those hit 800 (500 already, btw), we'll doubtless indeed split off whichever of the City, boroughs, or official-ish clumps thereof are viable.  In this case, the latter option wouldn't just be a rename, it'd be a merge, and if the locals make a meaningful distinction between the two, unnecessary "unsorting".  Alai 03:06, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
 * mmm, yes and no. There isn't a vancouver-geo-stub - perhaps having a sepatare vancouver-stub and vancouver-geo-stub might solve quite a few of these problems. Grutness...<small style="color:#008822;">wha?  05:14, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Which'd be unsorting, and then re-sorting on a different axis... for what pressing purpose?  Technically this wouldn't be a renom since it wasn't actually tagged and listed last time, just chucked into an on-going discussion, but in practice I strongly suspect this'd turn into the same discussion all over again.  Mind you, technically it's hardly a discovery, either...  Perhaps we should moot alternatives to the wikiproject directly rather than re-SFDing immediately.  Alai 07:47, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
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China-film-stub Category:Chinese film stubs
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Only used on 2 articles but sorely needed. Will populate quickly. &hearts; Her Pegship &hearts; 05:50, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Up to 46 articles. Kappa 17:40, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
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Florida-sports-stub, Florida-media-stub
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The result of the debate was sports no longer exists, keep media as part of WP - feeds into Florida stubs

Small. I've cleaned up the code. Must be the work of WikiProject Florida. Valentinian (talk) 14:35, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
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Louisville-stub / Category:Louisville stubs
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doiesnt look like theres a wikiproject but this one does have over 100 stubs. unfortunately most of them are geo-stubs but its probably keepable.  BL Lacertae -  kiss the lizard  07:19, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
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Abortion-stub
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This was created just a day or so ago as part of the new WikiProject Abortion. I've come up with a list of 75 stub articles in Category:Abortion and its subcategories, you can view that here, scrolling down just a screen or so. This template looks fine to me, but needs a category and to be double-checked that all is well-formed. There's also a question of parent stub types - perhaps Medicine-stub and Law-stub? -GTBacchus(talk) 00:49, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Don't forget fem-stub. Caerwine <small style="font-family:sans-serif;color:darkred">Caerwhine 05:00, 30 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Looks OK to me on all counts (aside from the mere matter of being proposed), if we apply your suggested categorisation, and even some even-if-he's-lying-he's-John-the-Baptist-like threshold of the list of 75 candidates, so I'd suggest filing under "forgiveness rather than permission" (said with tightly clenched sphincter, of course). Alai 01:01, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
 * I promise to sort 200 UK-bio-stubs as pennance. A lot of people don't just know about WP:WSS/P, it turns out... -GTBacchus(talk) 01:06, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
 * well, it is mentioned on the Wikiproject start-up template... im going to make it bigger there though.  BL Lacertae -  kiss the lizard  01:33, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
 * WikiProject start-up template? What a great idea! -GTBacchus(talk) 04:05, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
 * (ec)Hrm, WikiProject Stub sorting/Confessional? Interesting concept, just don't tell the shades of my Presbyterian forebears.  Not sure quite what we can reasonably do to publicise it more, and I confess I'm much more annoyed by people who're well aware of /P, but just can't be bothered, or regard it as "unwiki" or whatever.  Alai 01:40, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Unwiki? This project is the closest thing to a tight ship I've seen on this website. -GTBacchus(talk) 04:07, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Exactly, its a tight ship and that makes it unwiki in the eyes of some. Also find some other pennance. I'm in the middle of sorting UK-bio-stub myself.  I've managed to bring it down from 14 to 12 pages already and I'm only up to the F's. Normally I'd appreciate the help, but I'm also preparing the ground for some stub proposals. Caerwine <small style="font-family:sans-serif;color:darkred">Caerwhine  05:00, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
 * It is now 19 July and a) the template has not been added to WP:WSS/ST and b) no articles have been tagged with the stub template. As I'm not an active member of the stub-sorting community any longer, I leave it to another to add the template to WP:WSS/ST, but in the meantime I'll add the template to the articles in the list mentioned above. User:Ceyockey ( talk to me ) 01:36, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
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Korea-singer-stub /
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Used on a mere 7 articles. Not sure about its viability. Valentinian (talk) 22:58, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Seems to be growing a little; have helped out somewhat by 'botting over some double-stubbings.  Alai 06:56, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I counted 35 articles today, growing really slowly as establishing notability of new singers isn't that easy. Monni 05:04, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
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Scotland-royal-stub /
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Created on 31 May, nicely formed but only used on 35 articles. Valentinian (talk) 19:57, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
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Subtypes of
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Three new sub types of got added directly to the stub list today without being proposed first. The problem is that even including these three new stub types, there are slightly less than 100 stubs total in. Because of teh small size, I've sent all three directly to SFD. Caerwine <small style="font-family:sans-serif;color:darkred">Caerwhine 14:45, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Spain-dramatist-stub /
 * Spain-journalist-stub /
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Goosebumps-stub /
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This has 50 articles and is probably useful for reducing the size of, which has more than 800 articles. --Sbluen 04:50, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
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Well-formed, and seems eminently sensible, given that Stub Sense finds 1923 articles under Category:History of Scotland (although a fair few of them are bios). It was created on 28 July 2006 by a WP:SCOWNB colleague of mine: User:Calgacus. He is a very good editor (created the WP:FA Scotland in the High Middle Ages article) and I'm certain that this out-of-process creation was just an oversight (hrmmm... ) --Mais oui! 22:05, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
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subcats
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I found out today that there is indeed a puzzle-cvg-stub, even though it's not listed on WP:STUBS. Then I found out that there are a TON of subcats in that, while having WPSS-cat, are not listed on WP:STUBS. I see a lot of proposals in the archive around Oct 2005, but not all of them are there. Are all of the subcats sanctioned? <b style="color:maroon;">~ Amalas</b> rawr  <sup style="color:navy;">=^_^=  16:56, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
 * I also found this discussion from above (Oct 2005). <b style="color:maroon;">~ Amalas</b> rawr  <sup style="color:navy;">=^_^=  16:58, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
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Cn-music-stub / no cat
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Chinese music template with no category. Created 5 August 2006 without a proposal (that I can see). The template name is incorrect and it is incorrectly using Category:Music stubs as its stub category. Currently used in 17 articles. If we're going to keep it, it needs to be cleaned up. --Bruce1ee 11:34, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
 * How about China-music-stub / . StubSense gives 228 potential stubs starting from . Just have to calculate how much belongs to more appropriate stub types and take account how much behind StubSense is ;). Monni 04:38, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
 * So far 123 stubs found. Monni 13:42, 9 August 2006 (UTC)


 * I think we should keep and list this one in its revised form. --Bruce1ee 10:03, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
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/ various templates
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Includes, all in this one category:
 * Denmark-footyclub-stub
 * Finland-footyclub-stub
 * Faroes-footyclub-stub
 * Iceland-footyclub-stub
 * Norway-footyclub-stub
 * Sweden-footyclub-stub

There's 185 articles in the big category total, so there's no way that all 6 of them are big enough, and I'd be willing to bet that none of them are. Even so, this is a disaster to have six templates going into one differently-named category. I was this close to taking this to SfD, but decided to hold off for whatever reason. Anyone else have any complaints with putting these up for deletion? --fuzzy510 18:30, 13 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Well then, never mind. Going through the archives for a completely unrelated reason, I see that it was actually proposed.  Go figure.  I may not like it, but that'll teach me to not put my two cents in during proposal discussions.  :-D  --fuzzy510 22:17, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
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rpg-bio-stub /
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Discovered the WP:WSS after creating both the stub template and category listed above and then switching out the rpg-stub for rpg-bio-stub for the stub articles under. Please review the stub—its cat and template—and make any changes necessary.<BR />—Asatruer 01:46, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Ok - I've tidied it up and made sure the category was visible. Other than that it seems pretty much OK. At 38 stubs it's pretty light, and the main rpg stub category wasn't really big enough to need splitting, but still... Grutness...<small style="color:#008822;">wha?  05:14, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
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Scot-constituency-stub /
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Well-populated with 72 articles, but perhaps template should follow the std naming: Scotland-constituency-stub? --Mais oui! 06:48, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Done, and I'd be agreeable to extending "forgiveness" to listing this as such. Alai 18:10, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
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Ecuador-footy-bio-stub /
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Well-named and designed, but I've been over the football bios many times, and I assure you that there are not even 50 stubs there. Only one in there right now, but the category hasn't been populated (just created today). --fuzzy510 20:26, 25 August 2006 (UTC)


 * And I have been through the Ecuadorian stubs many times because I wanted to split off the politicians (which has happend). The -politician stub is above threshold, the -bio stub is *below* threshold and this one will make it even worse. Delete (or upmerge if people feel for it.) Valentinian (talk) / (contribs) 20:34, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
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Created Aug 24. 25 total stubs but I really don't see a possibility of it breaking any type of threshold.--Thomas.macmillan 19:49, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
 * It certainly wasn't proposed in the past couple months, otherwise I would have seen it when updating WP:STUBS. Send it to SFD.  <b style="color:maroon;">~ Amalas</b>  rawr  <sup style="color:navy;">=^_^=  19:53, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
 * It seems to have grown to 36. May be a case of checking back in a couple of weeks time to see if it has got near to threshold. Grutness...<small style="color:#008822;">wha?  23:48, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
 * I did a bit of sorting :) Eritrea-stub is now at 57 and we have 37 articles using Eritrea-bio-stub and since we have WP:ERI I think it'll have good growth potential. Let's give it a chance for now. If it doesn't grow, we can always upmerge it later. Btw, it has a category now, so I've updated the headline. I've cleaned up the code in both cases, so no problems there either. Valentinian (talk) / (contribs) 07:41, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
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NorthwestTerritories-stub, Yukon-stub, Nunavut-stub
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NorthwestTerritories-geo-stub, Yukon-geo-stub, and Nunavut-geo-stub are all listed on the stub type list, but these are not. Should they be? &hearts; Her Pegship &hearts; 23:37, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
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This was deleted back in May, after a discussion at SFD. It's been back again for about three weeks, still with a non-standard name, though it does at least have 100+ stubs. Needs renaming though. Grutness...<small style="color:#008822;">wha?  07:14, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
 * This isn't exactly a discovery, since it was raised at /P, in an epic exercise in vote-mobilisation and stub-type-padding. I'd support renaming to  (though whether that's "standard" is seemingly a matter of opinion).  As I mentioned at the proposal "discussion", this is badly in need of a scoping statement, as it seems to attract some extremely recent "history", as well as that from when Ukraine didn't exist as a state, and hence end up triple-tagged and quadruple-tagged with a truckload of successor states.  (Actually, I'd support re-upmerger, if I had the energy, and the patience to deal with editors vocally insisting on the need for a "specialist" category that covers from 1200 years to ten minutes ago, and multiple Ukrainian states (and none).)  Alai 09:20, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
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Aragon-stub /
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Unproposed, and currently with just one article. We seem to have several region-specific spanish stub types, but unless there are definite signs of this one reaching a viable level then it may need upmerging. Grutness...<small style="color:#008822;">wha?  00:18, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
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blog-stub /
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The result of the debate was delete cat, redirect template

I know I'm bringing this up again, but I found blog-stub and today. It looks like they went through SFD before and the result was keep (just by looking at the history of the cat). There was also a proposal for a general internet-publish-stub which never got created. Suggestions? If internet-publish-stub is the way to go, then I'll go ahead and create it, restub the blog-stubs to use that one, and put these up for deletion. <b style="color:maroon;">~ Amalas</b> rawr  <sup style="color:navy;">=^_^=  20:12, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
 * I was the one who suggested internet-publish-stub, which would include stuff like webcomics, blogs, internet films, online books/articles, etc. Fwiw I say go ahead. Cheers, &hearts; Her Pegship &hearts; 03:40, 22 September 2006 (UTC)


 * internet-publish-stub has been created, and blog-stub has been sent to SFD. <b style="color:maroon;">~ Amalas</b>  rawr  <sup style="color:navy;">=^_^=  16:06, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
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The result of the debate was send to WP:CFD

Used on a whole one article. Alai 10:38, 22 September 2006 (UTC)


 * A bit ironic, I'm not really sure which organization has fewer articles, the League of Nations or the Council of Europe. In any case, this one is not needed. SFD. Valentinian (talk) / (contribs) 18:48, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
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Qatar-stub /
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The result of the debate was already listed

I stumbled across Qatar-stub and decided to give it a try populating it. I was pretty surprised finding a total of 78 stubs, so I have been bold and given it a category already. I hope that's ok. Valentinian (talk) / (contribs) 21:31, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
 * I know there are some 19 geo-stubs (I hope they're double stubbed now :) Grutness...<small style="color:#008822;">wha?  06:33, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
 * They are :) Valentinian (talk) / (contribs) 07:01, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
 * weell... they are now - you missed two ;) Grutness...<small style="color:#008822;">wha?  07:53, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
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legislature-stub /
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132 articles; was originally a sub-stub of but I tucked it under  as well. &hearts; Her Pegship &hearts; 04:15, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
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