Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Discoveries/Log/2009/August

Mars-spacecraft-stub
I've just fixed the name on it (transclusions need updated). It's upcategorizing right now and seems like a good idea. Would need listed. –xenotalk 18:03, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Support. We'd either end up splitting spacecraft by space agency or target of mission, and the only other split so far is by target of mission (comsats) so this stub type makes a certain amount of sense. And at 700+ stubs, is getting lose to a split as well. The former name should be deleted, though, since it is not a naming-convention compliant name - and it has been orphaned, so you can do that as a speedy without going through SFD if you wish (as sole editor of the page). Grutness...wha?  10:38, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Welsh-Academics
Another oddly named stub -- WOSlinker (talk) 18:16, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
 * To SFD with it. Any incorrectly named ones ccan go directly to SFD, because even if kept they'll need to be renamed. Grutness...wha?  22:48, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
 * SFD in progress --Kslotte (talk) 15:47, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

More Various (oddly named)
A few stub templates that don't end in -stub
 * As such, they couldd have been taken straight to SFD - which would savee duplicating all the discussions! Grutness...wha?  22:48, 25 August 2009 (UTC)


 * NarutoEpisodeStub
 * Incorrectly named, unused, SFD fodder Waacstats (talk) 10:15, 25 August 2009 (UTC)


 * SLP
 * What? unused in mainspace. More SFD fodderWaacstats (talk) 10:15, 25 August 2009 (UTC)


 * South Korea-bio stub renamed to SouthKorea-bio-stub
 * Incorrectly named and we have the correct name so Db-t3 for the one with a space. Waacstats (talk) 10:15, 25 August 2009 (UTC)


 * State Legislatures Stub
 * SFD as unused, off to SFD Waacstats (talk) 10:15, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

-- WOSlinker (talk) 22:32, 24 August 2009 (UTC)


 * While on the subject of odd naming... (Some of these are discussion elsewhere as well) –xenotalk 04:26, 25 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Template:D&DVG stub
 * incorrectly named and only used on three stubs, SFD Waacstats (talk) 10:27, 25 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Template:Distilled beverages-stub
 * category that goes with this is probably useful given is over 500 would suggest renaming template to Distilled-drink-stub or similar. Waacstats (talk) 10:27, 25 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Template:Italian comics-stub
 * rename template, category looks reasonable if it can be raised to 60 articles. Waacstats (talk) 10:27, 25 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Template:Rahim YarKhan-geo-stub renamed to RahimYarKhan-geo-stub
 * DB-T3 unused and substantial duplicate. Waacstats (talk) 10:27, 25 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Template:North Korean-poet-stub renamed to NorthKorea-poet-stub
 * DB-T3 unused and substantial duplicate. Waacstats (talk) 10:27, 25 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Template:South Korean-poet-stub renamed to SouthKorea-poet-stub
 * On the subject of the NorthKorea SouthKorea, why don't we have both North and South seperate normally? I think this is a logical split, they are just incorrectly named. Borgarde (talk) 06:05, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Mainly because so many of the articles on poets and the like are for people who pre-date the 1950s. Grutness...wha?  00:16, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
 * DB-T3 unused and substantial duplicate. Waacstats (talk) 10:27, 25 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Template:U.S. Virgin Islands-road-stub renamed to USVirginIslands-road-stub
 * DB-T3 unused and substantial duplicate. Waacstats (talk) 10:27, 25 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Template:West Nusa Tenggara-geo-stub
 * Rename either to WNusaTenggara-geo-stub to match ENusaTenggara-geo-stub . Waacstats (talk) 10:27, 25 August 2009 (UTC)


 * I've speedied some of these. Cheers, –xenotalk 17:48, 25 August 2009 (UTC)


 * To SFD with all of them. Any incorrectly named ones ccan go directly to SFD, because even if kept they'll need to be renamed. As for speedying them, some of the ones you speedied will still need to go to SFD, so please don't! It simply makes more work for yourself. Korean bios, for instance, are mostly not split into North and South, simply because the vast majority of articles on them are pre-1950. Grutness...wha?  22:48, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I actually meant the leftover redirects, not the new names. –xeno<sup style="color:black; font-family:verdana;">talk 22:52, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Fair enough, though some of the new names may still require SFD, so it may still be unnecessary extra work in the long run. Grutness...<small style="color:#008822;">wha?  00:14, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

Central Asian archaeology stub/Category:Central Asian archaeology stubs
Found this one Borgarde (talk) 13:30, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Category may prove useful, with either a corrected template or more probably upmerged by nation templates (after all whose definition of Central Asia is being used). Templates just wrong and needs deleting. Waacstats (talk) 10:19, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I agree - nation-specific templates are better than a regional one, especially given that tthere are various definitions for this region. Not overly keen on the category either, but it may be useful. Grutness...<small style="color:#008822;">wha?  22:48, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

Template:India-china-stub
Weird one. &mdash; Martin (MSGJ · talk) 12:49, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
 * More SFD fodder Waacstats (talk) 09:26, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Yup. SFD. Grutness...<small style="color:#008822;">wha?  22:48, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

Various
I would appreciate if someone could sort through these:


 * Template:Marching-band-stub: no stub category, limited use
 * Marching-band-stub - looks like we have a category with 30 articles but not fed by this template, parent category seems to have numerous articles and subcats so maybe useful,
 * ISTR this being proposed at some point, but upmerged. -G


 * Template:NorthDakota-county-route-stub: no cat, 1 use
 * NorthDakota-county-route-stub - I thought we had standardised all these to state-road-stub, SFD fodder
 * We standardised them all as you said. This is either new or was missed in the mass renaming/cull. -G


 * Template:Pacificnorthwest-stub: categorizes into non-stub cat
 * Pacificnorthwest-stub - we don't split by areas split over two countries, SFD


 * Template:Penmanship-stub: no category
 * penmanship-stub - looks like cat was deleted just not the template SFD or speedy


 * Template:Phasmatodea-stub nc
 * Phasmatodea-stub - given the way these genus' normally grow I would not be surprised if this wasn't worth keeping, upmerged to Insect stubs


 * Template:PlayStation-stub nc
 * Playstation stubs - used to have a cat (Sont computer entertainment stubs) may be worth putting it back there as that is currently undersized.


 * Template:SouthAm-actor-stub nc
 * SouthAm-actor-stubs - readded cat as someone had removed it, this will probably become unecessary when we get round to creating the foo-actor-stubs for each country but keep till then


 * Template:Tamagotchi-stub nc (upmerge to "virtual pet stubs" ?)
 * Tamagochi-stub - Certainly needs upmerging somewhere but we don't have a virtual pet stubs so not sure where.
 * An electronic-game-stub template might be useful. &mdash; Martin (MSGJ · talk) 08:48, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Template:UFO-stub 2 uses, red cat
 * UFO-stub - may be of future use but can't think of any where to upmerge to. SFD fodder for now
 * Upmerge or redirect to Para-stub -G


 * Template:Wales-music-stub nc, 1 use
 * Wales-music-stub - not a normal axis of split though we do have a proud tradition of music here in wales, still SFD fodder
 * Nid wyf i ddim yn hoffi Wales-music-stub. SFD. -G


 * Template:Webzine-stub nc, 1 use
 * Webzine-stub - may be useful I don't know how many webzines we have on here, upmerge to Magazine stubs and web stubs? would be my suggestion

Thanks! –<b style="font-family:verdana; color:black;">xeno</b><sup style="color:black; font-family:verdana;">talk 03:43, 24 August 2009 (UTC)suggest directing to category and seeing how it goes.
 * Hope no minds me putting the comments under each template just thought it would be easier if any need to be split into a seperate discussion. Waacstats (talk) 09:23, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I've done the same (mine have a -G after them). Grutness...<small style="color:#008822;">wha?  22:48, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Nope, I certainly don't mind. Do you mind taking the next steps with these? Thanks! –<b style="font-family:verdana; color:black;">xeno</b><sup style="color:black; font-family:verdana;">talk 12:54, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I'll get round to SFD'ing these later, any deletions will require an admin. Waacstats (talk) 09:25, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

A few more. –<b style="font-family:verdana; color:black;">xeno</b><sup style="color:black; font-family:verdana;">talk 17:00, 24 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Template:Catholic-school-stub categorizes into non-stub cat, 2 uses
 * Schools are split by location, I see no reason to make an exception for Catholic schools. SFD. Waacstats (talk) 09:18, 25 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Template:Honor-stub, same as above, but enough uses for a cat
 * category exists and has ben changed in the past, will readd cat. Waacstats (talk) 09:18, 25 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Template:FrancoBelgian-comics-creator-stub no uses, red cat
 * SFD and delete as unused. Waacstats (talk) 09:18, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

Kwaito-album-stub / without cat
A handful of transclusions. No category. –<b style="font-family:verdana; color:black;">xeno</b><sup style="color:black; font-family:verdana;">talk 00:04, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
 * made very difficult to look into by the fact that we don't even have a perm cat, the question then is if we don't have a perm cat why do we have a template. looks like even ore SFD fodder. Waacstats (talk) 09:02, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

FrenchWriter-stub / without cat
Unused, categorizes into a parent cat. –<b style="font-family:verdana; color:black;">xeno</b><sup style="color:black; font-family:verdana;">talk 20:43, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
 * WP:SFD material - already thoroughly covered by France-writer-stub, which conforms to standard naming conventions (this one doesn't). Grutness...<small style="color:#008822;">wha?  22:48, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
 * T3'd. –<b style="font-family:verdana; color:black;">xeno</b><sup style="color:black; font-family:verdana;">talk 03:42, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

Chinese-food-stub / without cat
Another lacking a cat. It did have one, but a bot removed it because I think no one created it. Only 3 members... –<b style="font-family:verdana; color:black;">xeno</b><sup style="color:black; font-family:verdana;">talk 19:40, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
 * WP:SFD material - already thoroughly covered by China-cuisine-stub, which conforms to standard naming conventions (this one doesn't). Grutness...<small style="color:#008822;">wha?  22:48, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Tagged with deprecated template. –<b style="font-family:verdana; color:black;">xeno</b><sup style="color:black; font-family:verdana;">talk 03:42, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

Bible-stub/ Category:Bible stubs
2 members presently. Could probably have things split into it... –<b style="font-family:verdana; color:black;">xeno</b><sup style="color:black; font-family:verdana;">talk 05:29, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Already thoroughly covered by other stub types - this is possibly more SFD material unless a use can be shown for it which differs from the current available stub types. Grutness...<small style="color:#008822;">wha?  22:48, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Possibly upmerge template at best, certainly SFD for category. Waacstats (talk) 09:00, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

,, etc.
I already posted here about these, but it's only dawned on me that these are actually *discoveries*! Read the post there. I think they're good categories/stubs, but they need reorganization and renaming. &mdash; Skittleys (talk) 03:42, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
 * These ones were actually proposed, back in about April last year. Grutness...<small style="color:#008822;">wha?  22:48, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

Badminton-stub/without cat
Just found this one because bot didn't like it (no category). Please take a look. –<b style="font-family:verdana; color:black;">xeno</b><sup style="color:black; font-family:verdana;">talk 02:56, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Seems a reasonable idea, but it needs cleaning up and (unless there are more stubs) upmerging. BTW, something that probably needs adding to the instructions of this page is the use of wssdnotify, to let the creators of these stub types know that they've caused problems downstream. Grutness...<small style="color:#008822;">wha?  22:48, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep possibly upmerged to Waacstats (talk) 08:32, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

Catalonia-politician-stub/Category:Catalan politician stubs
Found this irregularly split by sub-national identity like below. Borgarde (talk) 10:40, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
 * The bio one makes a certain (limited) sense, though I personally don't like it as a way of splitting bio-stubs. The politicians one doesn't, thouygh - politicians are split by nation and then by party alignment. Grutness...<small style="color:#008822;">wha?  22:51, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Politicians aren't always split by party (just mostly), US/CAN are split by state/province and then which parliment they sat in, JPN/NOR are split by DoB if memory serves correctly. I think this should live or die with the catalonia-bio-stub, the only reason to keep would be to reduce double stubbing and there would be no double stubbing without the bio-stub so very week keep. Waacstats (talk) 08:58, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

Catalonia-bio-stub/Category:Catalonia people stubs
Found this irregularly split by sub-national identity for biographies.Borgarde (talk) 10:40, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
 * We don't normally split by subnational entity but given the fact that catalonia has a seperate language/culture to the rest of spain this may be worth keeping but I am doubtful. Waacstats (talk) 08:54, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

chromalveolate-stub/Category:Chromalveolate stubs
Found these taxon-specific items. Seem OK and well structured, so added to the List and sorted additional stubs in from Category:Algae stubs. Now 98 items in the new stub category. Apparently proposed in April 2007, but never listed. --EncycloPetey (talk) 15:40, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
 * sounds like one of the many that was created after proposal and never listed (I am probably one of the biggest culprits of that) and given that it is well over 60 keep. Waacstats (talk) 08:13, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

Category:Bosniak people stubs
Found this category which has been manually added to articles, not generated by a stub template. Borgarde (talk) 11:04, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
 * This is bound to cause trouble and given the fact that we don't split people by subnational entities I think this should be taken to SFD. Waacstats (talk) 12:01, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I agree. Grutness...<small style="color:#008822;">wha?  01:22, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Off to SFD we go then. Waacstats (talk) 08:34, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

8bitcomputer-game-stub
Seems to be OK, upmerged to and used on 53 articles looks like a keeper. Waacstats (talk) 10:47, 14 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Shouldn't it be called 8bitcomputer-videogame-stub ? -- WOSlinker (talk) 18:20, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

mag-stub
Discovered all of the above at WP:WikiProject Journalism. Jezhotwells (talk) 18:06, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
 * These have all been around a long, long time and are known about. we were splitting subtypes out of mag-stub over three years ago, for instance (see here). They're listed on the stub lists under WikiProject_Stub_sorting/Stub_types/Culture. Grutness...<small style="color:#008822;">wha?  01:28, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Already on list? otherwise add to list Waacstats (talk) 09:47, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

Mall-stub
Sorry guys, I didn't know there were such elaborate procedures for stub sorting. I created the above because the only templates available were US and Canada specific and frankly there are a lot of countries with malls. Rather than create individual templates at this time, I created a catch-all because we don't know where a mall might come from. I'd already created it before I realized there were such procedures. I'm going to put a few articles into it as there seem to be plenty that could use it. This will help the shopping malls project identify stubs in their scope that aren't from US/Can.--Crossmr (talk) 15:36, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Mall-stub's probably one that's been needed for a while, for exactly the reasons mentioned. As long as any articles marked with it are marked with the appropriate national struct-stub (until such time as separate national-mall-stub types are proposed/made), I don't see any problems with it. It has thrown up a problem with the name of the US equivalent, though (see WP:SFD). Grutness...<small style="color:#008822;">wha?  23:20, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
 * keep and add to list Waacstats (talk) 09:47, 13 August 2009 (UTC)