Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Discoveries/Log/2010/October

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I have no complaint about the Opera singer stubs category, and the larger national categories that have been registered under it. However, someone has recently been creating new national categories without any proposal, and most of these are appallingly small.

I don't see a proposal for the following small categories. I'd suggest deleting the categories for now, but keeping the templates to upmerge to, until these actually reach a reasonable size:
 * - 20 articles
 * - 14 articles
 * - 17 articles
 * - 16 articles
 * - 10 articles
 * - 16 articles
 * - 10 articles
 * - 19 articles
 * - 29 articles
 * - 12 articles
 * - 11 articles

The following also were not requested. Although larger, they still don't fit the 60 article minimum. Should these also be converted back to upmerged templates? Dawynn (talk) 12:36, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
 * - 31 articles
 * - 35 articles
 * - 46 articles
 * - 35 articles


 * Comment I believe a member of WikiProject Opera created these, although they weren't proposed or discussed there either. I can see the merits of having the sub-divisions but I personally find it a pain to keep track of so many. Apart from: UK-opera-singer-stub, US-opera-singer-stub, Germany-opera-singer-stub, Italy-opera-singer-stub (created by the stub-sorting project), I usually just use Opera-singer-stub (as do many other editors). I imagine this makes probably unnecessary work for the stub sorters. I'll leave it to members here as to what they think is best and will watch this page to let WikiProject Opera know what the outcome is. Voceditenore (talk) 09:00, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment As the creator of the cats, I appologize for creating any difficulties. I personally find having the extra sub cats by nationality useful. It prevents having to add more than one stub to an article sense it funnels into the stubs for both Category:Opera singers and Category:Singers by genre and nationality. Frankly, I found the massive list of more than 300 opera singer stubs prior to my changes useless. If a person was interested in say French opera singers, one had to weed through the list in a highly tedious manner. I would prefer to keep them, but will bow to the stub project's decision.4meter4 (talk) 09:22, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Dawynn is not proposing getting rid of the templates just the categories and pointing the tempaltes at and the national singer categories.  (As a side note, 300 is not massive its quite reasonable, check out  or  for massive categories). Waacstats (talk) 12:13, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Upmerging while keeping the template seems quite reasonable to me. Finding the singers in a particular stub sub-category can still be done via looking at what links to the template. French opera singer stubs, for example, could still be found by looking at Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:France-opera-singer-stub. – Voceditenore (talk) 13:35, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Support according to proposal. --Kslotte (talk) 17:38, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

Only the template exists under this category. Not sure why it was built. Indicates it's for articles about encryption. The main category for that article is. There is already a. Might I suggest a redirect to ? Dawynn (talk) 12:57, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
 * UPmerge and delte. Waacstats (talk) 12:13, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Upmerge seems to have been done. Delete or redirect left. I propose delete. --Kslotte (talk) 17:43, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

Only the template exists under this category. Main category only has one article. I suggest deleting the category for now, but we can keep the template as an upmerge for. Dawynn (talk) 12:57, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Upmerge and delete Waacstats (talk) 12:13, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Afghanistan-cricket-bio-stub
No associated category created with it. Oddly, currently filtering into Category:English cricket biography stubs. Not entirely convinced this is necessary – there are currently only 22 Afghan players who would pass WP:CRIN, which is an application of WP:ATHLETE to the cricketing world, and WP:GNG. May not hurt to leave it as a stub template that upmerges in to Category:Cricket biography stubs, though. AllynJ (talk | contribs) 22:47, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Apologies, I didn't realise these templates were meant to go through a process to be created, and I also didn't notice I hadn't changed English to Afghan! Which is probably a good reason for me not to have created it in the first place.. There are likely to be more Afghan cricketers passing CRIN in the next few years (I suspect there are already more than 22, once first-class players are included, though I'm not sure about that.)  Harrias  talk  06:58, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Given there are likely to be more, and the set up at Category:Cricket biography stubs; I'd also propose the creation of Category:Afghan cricket biography stubs. If not, then for the time being, an upmerge would suffice, along with Category:Afghan people stubs.  Harrias  talk  07:21, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Upmerge to and  atleast until we get 60. Waacstats (talk) 14:58, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

Category:Anglican cathedral stubs
No stub template. Looks like parent may have enough (72 articles came up in my initial query, but not all may rank as "stubs") for a category. Only 8 articles in this category right now. Existing approved stub category is about mid-sized (315 articles). I would personally opt for closing down this category and moving the articles found here to. Dawynn (talk) 01:46, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
 * although we have a similar category for RC i think this would be better upmerged to anglican church stubs if we had a template. As it is delete. Waacstats (talk) 15:00, 21 October 2010 (UTC)