Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Proposals/Archive/2009/February

Germany-castle-stub +
as there are 70 of them in. Speedy? HeartofaDog (talk) 14:10, 28 February 2009 (UTC) Support. Dr. Blofeld      White cat 14:12, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
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Split of
The following are viable by from relevant upmerged templates Speedy anyone. Waacstats (talk) 01:26, 28 February 2009 (UTC) Speedy  Dr. Blofeld       White cat 10:58, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
 * - France-boxing-bio-stub
 * - Poland-boxing-bio-stub
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Split of
Soon will be around 800 stubs. I would recommend splitting by region of Vietnam in categories. The regions are as follows Northwest· Northeast· Red River Delta· North Central Coast· South Central Coast· Central Highlands· Southeast· Mekong River Delta

However I reckon it may be worth creating upmerged templates for every province of Vietnam if we are to consider the situation more long term. Sometime I'll get around to adding the communes of Vietnam which will make this split very reasonable. I propose creating the following templates and upmerging to the new regional splits. So for example CauMau-geo-stub would feed into . Dr. Blofeld       White cat 21:19, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

Proposed templates for upmerging

 * AnGiang-geo-stub
 * BaRiaVungTau-geo-stub
 * BacGiang-geo-stub
 * BacKan-geo-stub
 * BacLieu-geo-stub
 * BacNinh-geo-stub
 * BenTre-geo-stub
 * BinhDinh-geo-stub
 * BinhDuong-geo-stub
 * BinhPhuoc-geo-stub
 * BinhThuan-geo-stub
 * CaMau-geo-stub
 * CanTho-geo-stub
 * CaoBang-geo-stub
 * DaNang-geo-stub
 * DakLak-geo-stub
 * DakNong-geo-stub
 * DienBien-geo-stub
 * DongNai-geo-stub
 * DongThap-geo-stub
 * GiaLai-geo-stub


 * HaGiang-geo-stub
 * HaNam-geo-stub
 * HaTinh-geo-stub
 * HaiDuong-geo-stub
 * HaiPhong-geo-stub
 * Hanoi-geo-stub
 * HauGiang-geo-stub
 * HoChiMinhCity-geo-stub
 * HoaBinh-geo-stub
 * HungYen-geo-stub
 * KhanhHoa-geo-stub
 * KienGiang-geo-stub
 * KonTum-geo-stub
 * LaiChau-geo-stub
 * LamDong-geo-stub
 * LangSon-geo-stub
 * LaoCai-geo-stub
 * LongAn-geo-stub
 * NamDinh-geo-stub
 * NgheAn-geo-stub
 * NinhBinh-geo-stub
 * NinhThuan-geo-stub


 * PhuTho-geo-stub
 * PhuYen-geo-stub
 * QuangBinh-geo-stub
 * QuangNam-geo-stub
 * QuangNgai-geo-stub
 * QuangNinh-geo-stub
 * QuangTri-geo-stub
 * SocTrang-geo-stub
 * SonLa-geo-stub
 * TayNinh-geo-stub
 * ThaiBinh-geo-stub
 * ThaiNguyen-geo-stub
 * ThanhHoa-geo-stub
 * ThuaThienHue-geo-stub
 * TienGiang-geo-stub
 * TraVinh-geo-stub
 * TuyenQuang-geo-stub
 * VinhLong-geo-stub
 * VinhPhuc-geo-stub
 * YenBai-geo-stub


 * AnGiang-geo-stub, ThuaThienHue-geo-stub two minor corrections. Also I thought we used diacretics in template names, with redirects from names with out the diacertics, surely some of these need the diacretics.  Besides all that I support the Idea.  Waacstats (talk) 09:03, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
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Split of
Oversized category, currently sorting to newly created templates and the following are over 60, more may follow. Waacstats (talk) 13:32, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
 * France-politician-Socialist-stub -
 * France-politician-UMP-stub -

Support, surprised no others are viable too. Dr. Blofeld      White cat 20:18, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
 * There probably will be others, I've still got over 800 to check. Waacstats (talk) 09:17, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
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Create as a parent category to house the stubs by country and perhaps any outstanding films which don't hit 60. Dr. Blofeld      White cat 19:00, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Support Per the recent re-org of the "by country" stub cats for films, and a handy new category to house the recently created Sri-Lanka film stub!  Lugnuts  (talk) 19:40, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
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Soup-stub and
Advise we organise Food and drink stubs a little better. Many of the soups are not even stub categorized. Dr. Blofeld       White cat 18:51, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
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by country templates
Plan to template the following by nationality, categories for any over 60 Waacstats (talk) 15:06, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

Strong support -Especially schools. Dr. Blofeld      White cat 18:49, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
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Templateing this by country, 2 questions remain.
 * How do we deal with people who won medals competing for Serbia and Montenegro? Do we classify them under serbia-,Montenegro- templates or do we have a seperate template.
 * How do we deal with people who won medals competing for the Unified team? Do we classift them as USSR-, their later nationality or with a UnifiedTeam- template? Waacstats (talk) 15:01, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

Politics is the root of all problems huh? I'm not sure, perhaps administer both templates or use the perosns place of birth (either current day Serbia or Montenegro) to judge. you could always create templates to make it easier. Dr. Blofeld      White cat 18:49, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

my first nomination here. There are about 30 article can fit into this type.--Chanaka L (talk) 17:58, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

Categories require 60 articles minimum. I would support SriLanka-film-stub though. Dr. Blofeld      White cat 18:00, 21 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Right then, give us SriLanka-film-stub. Cheers!--Chanaka L (talk) 18:05, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

Sure, I'm certain the others will have no objection. Perhaps you could stub 30 films and make the category viable? Dr. Blofeld      White cat 18:41, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

If you want to go ahead and create the category if you intend to ensure there are at least 60 asap then I have no objections either. But that would probably require more input from the others so I should wait for that. Dr. Blofeld      White cat 18:47, 21 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Dr.Blofeld, about category; I usually don't write film articles. I wanted it for maintenance purposes. But in a year or so we'll have that much. Let's see then. Best of Luck!--Chanaka L (talk) 04:07, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
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Split of
Bot generated now has 3000 stubs. Any suggestions? Dr. Blofeld      White cat 17:55, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

Could split by main but could probably still use further divisional split. Dr. Blofeld      White cat 17:57, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
 * We now have over 5000. The two existing sub-categories appear to be classes, so lets start with that level and see how we do.  Only problem is not all the classes have articles yet. Waacstats (talk) 15:14, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

A matter of time perhaps... Really we ought to contact the bot runner and get him to come to an agreement with stub sorting. Dr. Blofeld      White cat 18:47, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

By-country templates for Euro-archaeology?
is of moderate size, and a by-country template split looks desirable (a UK-archaeology-stub would easily pass threshold, as well). Problem is, of course, that we're dealing with ancient history in countries notorious for the changes in borders over that time. Personally, I'd favour the usual "current borders" principle, but if there are better ideas, voice 'em. I'd like to at least propose a UK-archaeology-stub /, and suggest debating on the rest. Grutness...wha?  01:06, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Permanent parent cat is split by curent nation so I see no problem in by country templates, categories for any that reach 60.Waacstats (talk) 11:00, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

Support Me neither Waacs. Dr. Blofeld       White cat 17:55, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

Category:Stub-Class black metal articles
This Category has over 200 stub articles. The template looks like it'd be useful. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Michalisphyl (talk • contribs)
 * Please discuss this at Stub types for deletion, where this was first listed. Pegship (talk) 18:59, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
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I proposed this a while back  Dr. Blofeld       White cat 17:58, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
 * You may have proposed a, but I doubt that you proposed a anything here! Grutness...wha?  20:36, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

Ooops, I meant to post that under "library"!! just below here. Dr. Blofeld      White cat 16:58, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

This upmerged stub is over 200 and should definitely be upmerged. Speedy?--TM 16:45, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Currently library-stub has its own category, . Which template are you seeing that is upmerged? Should there be a separate library-struct-stub? Pegship (talk) 18:44, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Ahh, I see. I thought it was an upmerged template already. Well, library-struct-stub is what I meant and I think it is needed.--TM 00:59, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
 * A quick CatScan shows well over 65 articles which would qualify for library-struct-stub, so I support. Cheers, Pegship (talk) 22:00, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
 * library-bio-stub probably is a good idea at this point too.--TM 04:36, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Agreed  Dr. Blofeld       White cat 12:16, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

I proposed this a while back  Dr. Blofeld       White cat 16:58, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
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Castle-stub
Propose:
 * Euro-split of Castle-stub, ie, the break-out of + upmerged  s as required, on the same lines as the Euro-church-stubs HeartofaDog (talk) 14:25, 19 February 2009 (UTC);
 * (speedy) creation of France-castle-stub +, as there are now 75+ of them HeartofaDog (talk) 23:04, 19 February 2009 (UTC):
 * I have no objection to a euro cat, but think that it is a bit small for now, would rather split out the countries that have 60+ into categories and see what is left. As it is with the French category would leave just 350 articles.Waacstats (talk) 08:41, 20 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Question: Am I the only person losing section edit links below this point? Outsider80 (talk) 00:34, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
 * No...I'm missing them as well. What's up with that? Pegship (talk) 01:00, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
 * fixed.. wanted to make sure it wasn't just me before i started taking shots in the dark. Outsider80 (talk) 01:09, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
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Upmerge templates
It seems to me that I can't find more than 60 stubs, so I propose creates two upmerge templates The stub list, if you want, is here (scroll down for the other list). Thanks --- impact  F =check this 06:14, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
 * 1) Taiwan-road-stub
 * 2) Taiwan-gov-stub
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Category request for LGBT bio stubs (qualifies under speedy criteria S1)
Hi, requesting category for currently-upmerged stub LGBT-bio-stub as it now contains 60 articles. Not sure what the standard naming is, but recommend avoiding "LGBT people stubs" as the stub's scope does include people who are not lesbian/gay but are relevent in other ways. (maybe "LGBT biographical stubs" or something similar?) Thanks, Outsider80 (talk) 05:39, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
 * I am not sure on this one. I think it might be better to create separate stubs like LGBT-writer-stub and LGBT-activist-stub rather than a general -bio stub.--TM 16:48, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
 * The LGBT-bio-stub already exists, it is just upmerged into LGBT-stubs category. If it does continue to exist as a stub type, moving it to its own category would help unclutter the parent category & make the bio stubs easier to find. LGBT-activist-stub also already exists as a stub and category and is populated. Good idea on the writer stub, I didn't realize how many there were (26 writer stubs within the 60 bio stubs). I went through LGBT-bio-stubs & the break-down is:
 * Writers of LGBT topics/themes: 26 stubs
 * LGBT-history related bio stubs (bio stubs with historical significance which do not fall under "writer" or "activist" qualifiers, including also victims of hate crimes): 18 stubs
 * Other -- Artists: only 7, Film-related bio: only 2, Music artsts: only 3, TV-related: only 1
 * thoughts? Outsider80 (talk) 20:38, 19 February 2009 (UTC)


 * I'd definitely support the original proposal. There were 53 such stubs two days ago and the number is increasing daily. If not for my recent health problems I'd have probably proposed this myself by now. Though I can see the reasoning behind Thomas's counterproposal, I think that a basic LGBT bio category makes sense as an initial move to empty out the LGBT stub category. It would also be a reasonable parent type for the existing activist category. The idea of creating a separate template for writers has its merits, though that's perhaps less urgent. Grutness...wha?  22:48, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
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Speedy creation for this cat? presently upmerged into but now has 60+ articles. HeartofaDog (talk) 23:40, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Speedy create per precedent. Waacstats (talk) 08:56, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
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Split of
Propose finishing off the split of this cat with the remaining upmerged templates. It may require the reation of templates for historic nations such as Bohemia-Olympic-medalist-stub, do we want to do this (I think we already have USSR-, Czechoslovakia- and Yugoslavia-) and if so do we upmerge them to the relevent current countries stub cat? We already have 23 categories and 2 upmerged templates. Waacstats (talk) 12:10, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

How many articles do you think would fit the criteria Bohemian olympic medalist? I support in principle as we tend to be politically correct in such areas. ANy idea how many bios fit the bill? Dr. Blofeld      White cat 21:27, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Currently 3 articles with another 3 possible articles which I'll try to get round to creating at the weekend. Waacstats (talk) 08:44, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
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split of
As with recent splits, create the missing templates here. Waacstats (talk) 19:59, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

Absolutely  Dr. Blofeld       White cat 22:17, 15 February 2009 (UTC)


 * On a related note, can upmerged templates for Category:European film director stubs be created for each country, instead of having the Euro-film-director-stub template?  Lugnuts  (talk) 12:18, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

I'd support that also. The European thing has gone on long enough. Dr. Blofeld       White cat 18:03, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Cheers Dr B. I thought I was going mad when I was adding Germany-film-director-stub, only to find it didn't exist!  Lugnuts  (talk) 19:11, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm slowly working my way through the continent categories so I would support this as well. Waacstats (talk) 23:03, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah that is crazy! I think its time we changed the graphic for them too I hated the old one.  Dr. Blofeld       White cat 21:25, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
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Speedy creation for this cat? presently upmerged into but now has 70+ articles. HeartofaDog (talk) 02:51, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

Um well its look as if it has been created... Support anyway. Dr. Blofeld       White cat 19:03, 15 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Sorry - I should have waited.
 * Strangely, the contents are not sorting alphabetically - not sure what is going on there, but if anyone can see what I've done wrong, please let me know. Thanks, HeartofaDog (talk) 15:34, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Sorted-someone forgot the noincludes. Waacstats (talk) 23:10, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Great - thanks.HeartofaDog (talk) 02:21, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
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Speedy creation for this cat? presently upmerged into but now has 110+ articles.HeartofaDog (talk) 02:01, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
 * mmmmm. I think I'd prefer a split by country rather than by the status of the building, though we do have the template, so it makes some sense. Grutness...wha?  07:56, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
 * I see what you mean. I am not sure that many countries have 60+ RC Cathedrals - presumably there wd be no problem breaking out the ones that do at the appropriate time and leaving the remainder permanently in RC-cathedral?
 * Or do you want to rethink the whole RC-church thing, and just have churches and cathedrals by country? There is certainly about to be a difficulty - in RC countries - with the overlap / duplication between Foo-church-stub and RC-foo-church-stub - (eg) RC churches in France / Churches in France. HeartofaDog (talk) 11:10, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
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LGBT magazines and newspapers, and two speedied categories
Hi all - subsequent to the recent LGBT split proposal, I'd like to propose two more upmerged templates - LGBT-mag-stub and LGBT-newspaper-stub. Looks like they'll each take about 30 articles. I've also inadvertently speedied both and, but both should get close to three figures, so hopefully no damage done. Grutness...wha?  23:46, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
 * In the spirit of "sometimes it's better to ask forgiveness than permission", support. Pegship (talk) 04:14, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Support both proposed upmerged templates -- there are quite a number of mags & newspaper articles currently stubbed as LGBT-stub. (also support the accidental speedied cats which are helpful in stub-navigating) Outsider80 (talk) 00:34, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
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Surprised this hasn't been ID'd by now, 70+ articles identified, can see preliminary list on userpageminnecologies (talk) 03:05, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
 * forestry-stub certainly looks like it'd be useful - as long as there's a note that it's not to be used for geo-type articles about actual forests. Support. Grutness...wha?  04:11, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Definately. COuld include both forest organizations and articles on forestry issues as well as any notable figures in this field.  Dr. Blofeld       White cat 11:30, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Yup - though the orgs and bios should be double-stubbed with any other appropriate stub types, of course. Grutness...wha?  11:45, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, we need a "forestry" stub - I specifically need one. chop chop ;)Nailgunner (talk) 22:14, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
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Templates
Propose creating templates for all countries for Africa-sports-venue-stub, as has been done with biographies. This will make sorting stubs into building and structures stub categories much easier and eliminate significant needless double stubbing.--TM 20:57, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Support will match Asia and Europe. Waacstats (talk) 22:59, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Support - would also be worth having redirects to them all from Foo-stadium-stub, which is also widely used as a template styling. Grutness...wha?  00:35, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
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propose upmerged by country templates. Waacstats (talk) 22:45, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

Not done already? Surprised. Support. Dr. Blofeld       White cat 01:03, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
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and
Disambiguation of, part two. (Part one was in December.)

Diving stubs have been re-tagged with one of four templates, as follows:


 * Underwater-diving-stub: 129 stubs
 * Underwater-diving-bio-stub: 20 stubs
 * Acrobatics-diving-stub: 1 stub
 * Acrobatics-diving-bio-stub: 290 stubs

If I recall the threshold guidelines correctly, that means that Underwater-diving-stub and Acrobatics-diving-bio-stub qualify for their own categories, Underwater-diving-bio-stub should be upmerged, and Acrobatics-diving-stub... I don't know: does it get a category in order to hold the bio subcat, or does it just get bypassed?

The other question to be settled before proceeding is: Does either type of stub get to keep the existing and, or do we mark those as ambiguous and create new categories for both of the precise types? —Paul A (talk) 01:32, 10 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Mmmmm. That's a tricky one. I'd be loath to split them much more than that, or upmerge, for that matter, given the numbers involved. The best thing might to have the diving bio stubs populating two categories each, giving:
 * (no stubs, three subcategories - "parent only" type)
 * (149 stubs, fed by both the base and bio stubs)
 * (291 stubs, fed by both the base and bio stubs)
 * (310 stubs, fed by both bio types, as per current use)
 * Grutness...wha?  03:44, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Support Grutness' suggestion. Waacstats (talk) 10:04, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
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France-church-stub, Austria-church-stub
As upmerged templates in Category:European church stubs, on a par with the several already existing there for other countries. HeartofaDog (talk) 00:51, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Sounds like a good move - support, and for any other countries that might find church-stub templates useful. Grutness...wha?  01:23, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
 * May I take this as a speedy OK?HeartofaDog
 * I'll say speedy create. for these and any other templates for foo-church-stubs for the euro cat. Waacstats (talk) 10:01, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

(talk) 00:05, 13 February 2009 (UTC) Yes, actually I did propose the creation of them and many other European ones a while back. Dr. Blofeld      White cat 12:29, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
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To mirror previous categories of Category:European film stubs and Category:African film stubs. I'm sure there's plenty of stub articles for films from Bolivia, Chile, Colombia, Venezuela and the other S American countries (ex. Argentina and Brazil) to make 60+ stubs.  Lugnuts  (talk) 20:53, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Support Not appropriate for Brazil or Argentina obviously as Lugs mentioned but the films from the other countries make it worthwhile and would tie stray stubs together.  Dr. Blofeld       White cat 21:42, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Support, would be an idea to have my country templates rather than one for SouthAm. Waacstats (talk) 09:55, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Ah yes, I forgot to say that originally - I'd do the upmerge template for each country, as per the European stubs.  Lugnuts  (talk) 11:22, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
 * I knew you'd know that but I thought I would make it plain just incase someone else comes round and creates it as southAm- before you create the country-film. Waacstats (talk) 17:06, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
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I've had a wild weekend. --User:AlbertHerring Io son l'orecchio e tu la bocca: parla! 19:48, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Support Barnstar worthy! Do you have a stub count Albert? Dr. Blofeld      White cat 21:09, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
 * I...er, never keep count after a wild weekend... --User:AlbertHerring Io son l'orecchio e tu la bocca: parla! 21:30, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Support speedying. I counted 153 just now.--TM 21:17, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
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New regional geo templates for Mali
I'm currently adding the 703 communes of Mali. With some seperate towns and villages it will soon be around 1000+. It is an early stage given that we only have around 200 Mali stubs at present but I can assure you that it will need to be done eventually and within a week or two. I propose the creation of the following templates by Regions of Mali -they will all expect Bamako be viable for seperate categories as I work through them. At present I believe the only one viable for category is the Kayes region.

Proposal:

Dr. Blofeld      White cat 01:17, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Gao-geo-stub
 * Kayes-geo-stub 100+ stubs already cat??
 * Koulikoro-geo-stub -this is around *60* but there is still a lag of about 35. Should be nearer 80 in an hour or two..
 * Mopti-geo-stub
 * Ségou-geo-stub
 * Sikasso-geo-stub
 * Tombouctou-geo-stub
 * Bamako-geo-stub -for articles on places and suburns of the city district.
 * support templates with the following changes GaoML - there is apparently a Geo district in Burkina Faso, KayesML - there is a Kayes in Congo and SégouML - there is a village in Togo. I don't think we need region in the template but certainly when categories are created (And I Support these once they reach 60) i think it should be of the form F. Waacstats (talk) 09:22, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Ah yes of course, thanks for the note. Actually I think we can get away with them blank though. You see Kayes is only a small town in Congo, it will never get to the stage where we would need stub templates. Kayes in Mali is a region, cercle, commune and town. Also "Geo" district is also a different spelling and is a smaller disrtrict that is also unlikely to have a template created for it. Segou is only a village in TOgo whereas it is a region, cercle, commune and city. The region is probably the size of England at least. If you look on a world map you'll see these names have priority. There shouldn't be any problems without the ML, if in the unlikely event that conflicting tmeplates needed to be made in the future then we can always add an abbreviation after the new ones. Dr. Blofeld      White cat 12:25, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
 * thanks for that, I am happy that Segou and Kayes probably don't need disambig (we don't have templates for american towns of the same size) and the "Geo" was a misspelling on my part according to Gao (disambiguation) but seen as we don't even have an article yet I'm sure a template is many years off unless someone does a good going over of Burkina Faso. Waacstats (talk) 14:03, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
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Haringey borough related articles
I propose to create a new stub called Haringey borough stub it can be found on my user page User:L07ChLeo3 I have been researching and I have found that it can be used on well over 60 articles as their are many Haringey related articles which are small enough to be counted as stubs L07ChLeo3 14:29, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Seems reasonable for an upmerged template at least; is around 580, with no current splits by borough. Pegship (talk) 20:57, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Support, but... are you looking at a general stub (for non-geographic items) or a geo-stub (for geographic items)? Personally I'd suggest having both, but upmerging them in different ways
 * Haringey-geo-stub, upmerged for now into and
 * Haringey-stub, upmerged for now into.
 * If either of them get 60 stubs, then separate categories could be created, or if they have 60 between them they could both feed a new, with the geo one also still feeding the London geo category. Grutness...wha?  22:45, 8 February 2009 (UTC) (native of nearby Barnet)
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footy-bios split
the following are viable from existing templates Waacstats (talk) 18:59, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

Speedy  Dr. Blofeld       White cat 19:03, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
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Central American sportspeople
Propose, foo-sport-bio-stub for all 7 nations nations and Foo-footy-bio-stub for Guatemala and Belize (the only two that don't currently have them). Waacstats (talk) 18:21, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
 * (Grutness tries to nod sagely, but ends up looking like one of those nodding-head dog puppets) Grutness...wha?  22:54, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
 * More like a nodding cat surely. Waacstats (talk) 15:08, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
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I propose creating a stub category with the stub article list here. The new category can include Template:Taiwan-baseball-stub, Template:Taiwan-footyclub-stub, Template:Taiwan-sports-venue-stub, and Category:Taiwanese sportspeople stubs. impact F =check this 02:57, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Support based on numerous precedants. Waacstats (talk) 09:01, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
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split of
Category is oversized, I see two options one is to split out E/W Germany with or to split by sport as we have with the US where the following would all be viable . Waacstats (talk) 23:48, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
 * - EastGermany-Olympic-medalist-stub
 * - WestGermany-Olympic-medalist-stub
 * - Germany-rowing-Olympic-medalist-stub
 * - Germany-canoe-Olympic-medalist-stub
 * - Germany-handball-Olympic-medalist-stub
 * - Germany-swimming-Olympic-medalist-stub
 * - Germany-athletics-Olympic-medalist-stub
 * - Germany-fieldhockey-Olympic-medalist-stub
 * I'm not sure what is standard naming practice with these, but Foo-Olympic-bar-medalist-stub (e.g., Germany-Olympic-swimming-medallist-stub}} would flow better, IMO (and yes, for continental Europe we'd normally use UK spelling, so they should all be "medallist". This, however, probably needs to wait for the outcome of a massive renaming of permcats which i think may be called for, so going with one -l- for now but keeping an eye out for future changes is possibly the best option). Grutness...wha?  00:58, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
 * If we go with the Foo-Olympic-bar then the US subcats (the only other country we have split this way) need to be renamed. I agree that we probably do need a rename to medallist at some point.  I don't think we need both axis of split do you have a preference for either. Waacstats (talk) 08:56, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Not really - but I suspect that a further split will be needed sooner if we go for the EG/WG one. Grutness...wha?  23:09, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Hmm yes the naming does seem a bit of a mouthful. I support though based on numbers  Dr. Blofeld       White cat 13:35, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Hi. Sorry about the delay in responding fellas. I'm not sure what we should do about naming in all honesty. I would completely support the category and template naming conventions above. I would also support East and West templates. Dr. Blofeld       White cat 18:21, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
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Russian/Soviet films
Following this discussion, I'd like to create the following stub categories: The former is for films from 1917-1991 (240+ articles currently in this category) and the latter for post-1991 films (100+ articles in this category).  Lugnuts  (talk) 18:31, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
 * - Russia-film-stub
 * - USSR-film-stub
 * Support as long as these are the other way round (Russia post 1991 and soviet 1917-1991). Waacstats (talk) 21:15, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Hehe, well spotted!  Lugnuts  (talk) 08:04, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Support -good catch Lugnuts! Dr. Blofeld       White cat 15:42, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
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Category:Handball biography stubs
Following categories and templates has already been created:
 * - Croatia-handball-bio-stub
 * - Denmark-handball-bio-stub
 * - Germany-handball-bio-stub
 * - Hungary-handball-bio-stub
 * - Norway-handball-bio-stub
 * - Poland-handball-bio-stub
 * - Romania-handball-bio-stub
 * - Spain-handball-bio-stub

Don't know if they have been proposed before, was made aware of the situation here. But I'm interested in creating stub-templates for the remaining nations, with categories for any that reaches 60 stubs. (Similar templates and categories have already been made for association football.) Speedy? lil2mas (talk) 00:45, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Works for me. Pegship (talk) 06:19, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
 * fully support, if you need any help let me know, don't think we need to go as far as we have with football though. Waacstats (talk) 23:13, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Support from me, too. BTW, if you have queries about less straightforward country names in stub templates, checking User:Grutness/Geo-stub list should hopefully clear them up. Grutness...wha?  23:22, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
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Split from
All the following are viable from upmreged templates Speedy? Waacstats (talk) 11:16, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
 * - Mexico-athletics-bio-stub
 * - Trinidad-athletics-bio-stub
 * - Portugal-athletics-bio-stub


 * Speedy--TM 15:12, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes but some uniformity might be nice... either Mexico/Portugal or Mexican/Portuguese... Grutness...wha?  21:51, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
 * someone found the deliberate error:), obviously bsed on all the other categories it should be, thanks for spoting that grutness. Waacstats (talk) 15:11, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
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Split from
Romania-canoe-bio-stub has reached 60 propose to fit in with post SFD name. Waacstats (talk) 11:14, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Support. Grutness...<small style="color:#008822;">wha?  21:54, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Go for it Dr. Blofeld       White cat 15:20, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
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