Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Proposals/Archive/2009/May

Proposals, May 2009
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Austria-Olympic-medalist-stub has passed 60 article mark speedy cat? Waacstats (talk) 20:48, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Naturally Dr. Blofeld       White cat 16:44, 9 June 2009 (UTC)


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split of
Over 1000 (how did I miss that!). Propose split by position as with england, scotland, france, germany, brazil, etc etc.Waacstats (talk) 08:32, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Speedy, non-controversial logical split. Borgarde (talk) 08:50, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
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Water-stub /
Water stubs This can be initially used for irrigation stubs and also can be used for other stubs about water that have no specific water stub subcategories.--Nopetro (talk) 06:54, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
 * This is actually listed elsewhere, so it shouldn't be "proposed" as such, but it needs to be discussed from the point of view of its possible use. From discussions with Nopetro on his user talk page and at SFD, I'm still a little unsure what it would be used for. It wouldn't be for things already covered by watersupply-stub, nor for the things which would be covered by the various geo-stubs or struct-stubs, nor those covered by boat-stub. What is left that needs covering by a water stub? Serious question, not rhetorical. If there is a need for this, then there's a need for it - I'd just like to know what it would and should be used for. Grutness...wha?  13:01, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
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London-road-stub /
It's about time there was a stub for London Road.

is nudging up towards 600 articles, and at a rough count 90 of them seem to be roads and streets, which theoretically shouldn't be in there anyway. A London-road-stub would kill three birds with one stone, reducing the load, fixing the miscategorisation, and probably emptying a fair few out of, too. Grutness...wha?  01:34, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Based on the fact that I thought this already existed, support. Waacstats (talk) 12:38, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Very surprised indeed. Support obviously. Dr. Blofeld       White cat 13:20, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
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part 2
Only 'country' I can find that passes 60 is the soviet union so I propose I also propose templates for Waacstats (talk) 17:59, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
 * USSR-canoe-bio-stub /
 * Austria-canoe-bio-stub
 * Bulgaria-canoe-bio-stub
 * Denmark-canoe-bio-stub
 * Russia-canoe-bio-stub

Yeaj as long as we don't make a Panama-canoe-bio-stub for Mr. Canoe I faked my own death guy. Dr. Blofeld       White cat 21:50, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
 * See note on the others below as to mnaming. Other than that, though, fine. The templates would certainly be useful. Grutness...wha?  00:56, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
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Suddenly oversized (1000+) first place to start would be to deupmerge some templates with the following cats Waacstats (talk) 17:09, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I note a change from "canoeist" to "canoe biography" - we should probably stick with one or the other (personally, I'd favour a third option, "canoeing biography", which widens it to coaches as well, but doesn't sound like the biography of canoes :) Grutness...wha?  00:55, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Good point so used to things being 'sport' biography stubs. I like the canoeing biography stubs option, but think that as we only changed from canoer stubs to canoeist stubs 4 months ago (Thanks to a proposal from a certain Grutness) I think it may be better to leave as ... canoeist stubs for a while. Waacstats (talk) 14:04, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
 * May be better to make them all "canoeist' for now, then. I doubt there are too many coaches in the mix anyway, and the templates can always be worded to accommodate them. Grutness...wha?  00:25, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
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Those damn flies are everywhere
There are now (deep breath) 5,200 articles in. Probably about time we started splitting by family (or even possibly, in cases like actia, by genus). Trouble is, there are apparently 218 families of diptera. There are numerous suborders, but splitting by them alone would almost certainly still leave oversized categories. Given that there are probably several hundred  and  alone, though I haven't done any sort of formal count-up, splitting out some of the major families would probably be a good idea. Grutness...wha?  00:07, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

Definately, I thought this was proposed before though.Dr. Blofeld (talk) 10:10, 20 May 2009 (UTC)


 * I had a feeling it had been, too - though I can't find any record of it at a quick glance. Ah, hang on - yup, you proposed it last month :) Grutness...wha?  11:46, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
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1600 stubs, and 18 counties. Sounds a reasonable solution for templates at least, and categories for any reaching the magic 60: Grutness...wha?  00:07, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
 * AnnapolisNS-geo-stub
 * AntigonishNS-geo-stub
 * Cape BretonNS-geo-stub
 * ColchesterNS-geo-stub
 * CumberlandNS-geo-stub
 * DigbyNS-geo-stub
 * GuysboroughNS-geo-stub
 * HalifaxNS-geo-stub
 * HantsNS-geo-stub
 * InvernessNS-geo-stub
 * KingsNS-geo-stub
 * LunenburgNS-geo-stub
 * PictouNS-geo-stub
 * QueensNS-geo-stub
 * RichmondNS-geo-stub
 * ShelburneNS-geo-stub
 * VictoriaNS-geo-stub
 * YarmouthNS-geo-stub

Absolutely.Dr. Blofeld (talk) 10:10, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

BTW, I used the NS suffix on all of them... most of these names are not unique, though one or two are - it just seemed better from the point of view of consistency given the high proportion that would have needed it. Grutness...wha?  11:42, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
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This one has inched well into four figures. The country seems to have 19 official regions, so templates are in order, plus categories where 60 is reached: Unfortunately three of the place names are not unique so require the "CI" suffix. Grutness...wha?  00:07, 20 May 2009 (UTC) Indeed.Dr. Blofeld (talk) 10:11, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Agnéby-geo-stub
 * BafingCI-geo-stub
 * BasSassandra-geo-stub
 * Denguélé-geo-stub
 * DixHuitMontagnes-geo-stub
 * Fromager-geo-stub
 * HautSassandra-geo-stub
 * LacsCI-geo-stub
 * Lagunes-geo-stub
 * Marahoué-geo-stub
 * MoyenCavally-geo-stub
 * MoyenComoé-geo-stub
 * N'ziComoé-geo-stub
 * SavanesCI-geo-stub
 * SudBandama-geo-stub
 * SudComoé-geo-stub
 * ValléeduBandama-geo-stub
 * Worodougou-geo-stub
 * Zanzan-geo-stub
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Tibet-bio-stub
For Tibetan people in history and maybe in modern history which are not affiliated with the PRC?Dr. Blofeld (talk) 20:13, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

Taiwan templates
I propose the creation of and Taiwan-org-stub. The category would include Template:Taiwan-party-stubs and the 60 stubs I found. I also propose creation of 2 upmerge templates: Thanks, impact  F = 22:05, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Taiwan-business-bio-stub
 * Taiwan-newspaper-stub
 * Support. For some reason, we don't normally include party stubs in the org-stub hierarchy, though it would make perfect sense to do so. Grutness...wha?  00:38, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

SupportDr. Blofeld (talk) 20:13, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
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Family-stub
A basic unit of our society; catscan gives ~350 stub size articles at for Category:Family.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 20:54, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Support. --Nopetro (talk) 06:56, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
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Caribbean-struct-stub
Seems to be missing from our list of struct stubs...and would definitely be useful. or would it be better to go on a country-by-country basis? Grutness...wha?  00:09, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
 * My preference would be for country templates, with a catch all for any country with out any stubs at this time. Waacstats (talk) 08:18, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Support. Didn't we have those Africa stub templates to make too?Dr. Blofeld (talk) 15:39, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, they're on the interminable to-do list...maybe people could take a break from creating thousands of stubs and sort some? :P Pegship (talk) 20:55, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Well now lets look at my edits the last week or so. About 10 DYKs I've been working on, mass clean up of Greek settlement categories. Hardly as if I just create zillions of stubs Your Pegship.Dr. Blofeld (talk) 12:52, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
 * And I got something on DYK earlier this week as well... and currently have something up at FAC that I've been working on. Plus in my real life I had a solo art exhibition open today, so my WP time's been a bit limited. Must be someone else making all them stubs... Waacstats? ;) Grutness...wha?  13:24, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Yeah I'm having computer trouble at the moment. In a weke or so I will be creating zillions of new stubs on missing German politicians if this is maybe what Pegship is referring too. I've been pretty quiet the last week or two in regards to stubs. Right time to create those Africa templates.Dr. Blofeld (talk) 13:30, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Sorry guys, guess I'm a bit grumpy. We seem short-handed around here these days. :( Pegship (talk) 14:03, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

I've just created the templates. I have been busy with a lot of things this is why I haven't had time to help much with stub sorting, We miss Alai for sure.Dr. Blofeld (talk) 14:37, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Been really busy with work and something called real life. Will be back to full sorting shortly. Waacstats (talk) 15:34, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
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Statisticians
WikiProject Statistics has been running successfully for over a year and I believe it would be useful to create Statistician-stub and Category:Statistician stubs to help members locate biography stubs in their area of interest. Such stubs are currently mostly in Category:Mathematician stubs, which currently has 539 entries in the main category, while some others, particularly applied statisticians, are in other subcategories of Category:Scientist stubs. Cat Scan finds 120 articles in both Category:Statisticians and Category:Scientist stubs or their subcategories, and I believe such a template would be appropriate for most of these articles. About 40 of these are American and 40 are British, so although there's no need for country-specific subcategories at present, it seems useful to create upmerged templates US-statistician-stub and UK-statistician-stub at the same time with a view to the future, so i'd like to propose that too. Qwfp (talk) 14:50, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Support. Seems reasonable. Please note I have corrected the template name in the general proposal to meet standard stub naming, BTW (you had a space rather than a hyphen). Other than that, three templates all feeding into the one category seems fine, if the numbers are as you say. Grutness...wha?  22:54, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
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PuertoRico-NRHP-stub - speediable?
User:Doncram's been going through the NRHPs sorting them by state, but he informs me there's no equivalent stub type for Puerto Rico, which would be pretty useful, IMO. It's almost certainly speediable because of the similar "by state" ones, though of course Puerto Rico is a special case as a semi-autonomous non-state. Would just need an upmerged template for now. Grutness...wha?  23:16, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
 * support, might need to look at other US territories (Virgin islands guam etc) Waacstats (talk) 17:54, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

Good idea Waacs.Dr. Blofeld (talk) 13:32, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
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Create Germany-CDU-politician-stub and
For politicians of the Christian Democratic Union (Germany). The reason I propose is that soon I will be adding around 3400 new biographies to wikipedia and don't want to flood the main cat! Dr. Blofeld       White cat 17:59, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
 * support and for any other party with similar numbers. Waacstats (talk) 17:56, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

Yeah I will be doing the lot so might be a good time to make some templates anyway. Dr. Blofeld       White cat 19:09, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
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Split of
Nearing 800 stubs. I propose new templates by decade, e.g 1960s-UK-film-stub and create seperate decade cats where appropriate. Dr. Blofeld       White cat 17:59, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Support, per Italian and French film stubs.  Lugnuts  (talk) 18:47, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Support as per nom RP459 (talk) 17:36, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Support, my first choise though would probably have been to split by genre, but seen as we have already done france and italy I see no problems. Waacstats (talk) 17:53, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
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