Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Proposals/Archive/2010/October

Proposals, October 2010
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Recently created upmerged template has over 60 articles. Speedy? Waacstats (talk) 20:21, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Speedy away. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 00:49, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

Split of
Propose moving upmerge templates up to full categories: Dawynn (talk) 14:29, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
 * UTexas-stub. Propose .  Main .  63 articles.
 * TAMU-stub. Propose .  Main .  136 articles.
 * Support -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 16:43, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Investigating further, because of Stub types for deletion/Log/2009/August/2 Dawynn (talk) 09:34, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Under the advisement of the aforementioned deletion log, I have reviewed the articles that link to these two templates. By removing several alumni and faculty, I have already reduced the UTexas-stub template under 40 articles, and plan to do the same with the TAMU-stub.  Consider this a cancelled request. Dawynn (talk) 18:50, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

Final speedway sort
has reached 372 and has reached 322 after sorting (only a very small proportion had any type of stub-tag at all before). I propose to split these up a little: As before, if anyone prefers motorcycle-speedway over speedway I'm completely malleable on it. This would make a little small so we could leave the team stubs upmerged to it if preferred. SeveroTC 12:47, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
 * /motorcycle-speedway-stub - Currently 372, reduced to 24 (all venues) with the categories below
 * /motorcycle-speedway-competition-stub - 168
 * /UK-motorcycle-speedway-competition-stub - another 110
 * /motorcycle-speedway-team-stub - 70
 * /speedway-bio-stub 322 - reduced to cat of 221 and template usage of 155
 * /UK-speedway-bio-stub - 101
 * Upmerged Poland-speedway-bio-stub - 35
 * Upmerged Australia-speedway-bio-stub - 31
 * Support whichever name is decided upon. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 16:42, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Support at proposed names with the possible exception of UK/British category depending on the outcome at deletion. (suggest we create an upmerged UK template till we have a decision). Waacstats (talk) 20:11, 29 October 2010 (UTC)

As promised - it should just be viable at 61 now. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 01:50, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Speedy Support based on Haitian precedant. Waacstats (talk) 11:41, 29 October 2010 (UTC)

Speedy♦ Dr. Blofeld  15:05, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

Caribbean-artist-stub
To go with the Caribbean bio stub category: I have to do a little looking, but I think there should be enough for a category. If not, that can be remedied quickly enough. :-) -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 16:05, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I think we have a that could be put in there as well. Waacstats (talk) 20:28, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
 * There will hopefully be a Cuban one soon...it lacks something like five articles, and I'll get to the books this evening. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 20:36, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

South American writer stub templates
We already have five - for Brazil, Argentina, Colombia, Chile, and Paraguay; what of the remaining countries? I'd like to propose Bolivia-writer-stub, Peru-writer-stub, Uruguay-writer-stub, Ecuador-writer-stub, Guyana-writer-stub, Suriname-writer-stub, and Venezuela-writer-stub All upmerged to  for the moment. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 15:10, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Haven't we got these already, speedy support. Waacstats (talk) 20:26, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Strong support, excellent catch.♦ Dr. Blofeld  15:04, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

BrčkoDistrict-geo-stub
Asking for an upmerge template for Brčko District. This would pull in all the articles found in both and. Looking at about 54 articles. Not quite enough for a category, but plenty to justify the upmerge template. I'm willing to change the template name, if someone can come up with a more preferred variation. Dawynn (talk) 12:11, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Support. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 13:30, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

I've just gone through all of, sorting and adding the newly made templates. (I can now say with some certainly that Turkey is full of banks, defunct airlines, and factions of the communist party!). Turkey-hist-stub has just nosed past the 60-article mark, so could be speedied, no? Grutness...wha?  05:10, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I think we have some precedant for that being speedied. Waacstats (talk)


 * Support speedy. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 13:29, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

To be fed by template BritishOpen-golf-stub, which has 100 articles. Main category:. Main article: The Open Championship. Dawynn (talk) 15:52, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Support. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 15:53, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

To be fed by template USMasters-golf-stub, which has 59 articles. The template itself will make 60. Main category:. Main article: Masters Tournament. Dawynn (talk) 15:52, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Support. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 15:53, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - close enough, though you shouldn't count the template :) Grutness...wha?  22:24, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

Same as below - Sweden-composer-stub is now in use on 70-odd articles (not sure of the exact number). Time to speedy the cat? -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 14:05, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I assume you were looking at this template: Sweden-composer-stub. With 69 articles, and plenty of precedent from other countries, I agree with the speedy. Dawynn (talk) 15:55, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I was, yes - thanks. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 16:32, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

I've been busy tonight - Chile-writer-stub is in use on at least 70 articles, and I'm still running a stub sort. Speedy this, perhaps? -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 05:17, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
 * 81 articles, and plenty of precedent from other countries. I approve the speedy. Dawynn (talk) 15:57, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

British India Military Stub
The British Indian Army units were divided between the armies of India and Pakistan after 14/15 August 1947. We have stubs for which was earlier used both for old British Indian Army units and present Indian Army units. The stub includes an image of the post-independence Indian army flag. Some of the British Indian Army units went to Pakistan, as such it is inappropriate to show two nation's modern army stub tags for the same unit. Before this leads to edit wars, it is proposed to create a British Indian Army stub, so that all former units of the British Indian Army would be so demarcated. This would aid Britishers and interested editors to develop these stubs seperately. The national army stub i.e. or  would be added in addition so that stubs are appropriately grouped for convenience of editing by respective national military history task forces and interested editors.

A total of 143 stubs from 302 articles in Category:Indian military stubs would be relocated to the British India military stub, if proposal is accepted. The Brotish Indian Army units already have an article category, British Indian Army regiments which has 234 articles under it and its two subcategories. A new stub category Category:British Indian Army stubs would be created if this stub proposal is approved. AshLin (talk) 19:54, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Support Save on potential conflict between two groups and allows for specialists to find articles easily. Dabbler (talk) 20:52, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Again...should just squeak past 60. With any luck, we can really winnow down some more. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 17:45, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

You know the drill by now, I think. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 15:48, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

J-pop albums
Another day, another album subcat to upmerge: 2000s-jpop-album-stub. Same old, same old. 75.189.192.117 (talk) 05:49, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
 * We already have a Japan-album-stub would 2000s-japan-album-stub be a better name or are you thinking of a stub specifically for j-pop albums specifically as apposed to japanese albums generally. Waacstats (talk) 11:53, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Depends on whether you think J-pop and J-rock (probably the majority of what'd go in there) are sufficiently similar to be lumped together. 75.189.192.117 (talk) 13:11, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

Just to help out below, Netherlands-composer-stub has been nudged passed 60. Speedy?? Waacstats (talk) 22:28, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Support speedy. Thanks - I was looking where to go next. :-) -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 05:21, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

Netherlands-business-bio-stub has over 60 articles, speedy?
 * Support speedy. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 05:21, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

As below, so here - just over 60 tagged with Hungary-composer-stub. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 20:24, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Support as speedy as below. Waacstats (talk) 21:44, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

A little rooting around in was enough to get Spain-composer-stub over the threshhold; it should be at 60-some right now. That will go some way towards reducing the borderline-overwhelming thing that is. I'll do the same for Hungary in a bit; that can be pushed over the limit soon enough, I think, too. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 19:59, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Beat me to it, I was just looking at reducing ! Waacstats (talk) 21:44, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

Just hit 60 on 2000s-progressive-rock-album-stub and I'm not even close to being done. Time for a cat now? 152.23.21.245 (talk) 22:26, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
 * 'twould seem so - and that would be a speedy, I suspect. Grutness...wha?  23:48, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Definitely, in fact - a separate category's already been more or less approved below, here. Grutness...wha?  11:31, 25 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Support speedy. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 05:32, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

Motorcycle speedway stubs
Propose creation of motorcycle-speedway-stub - currently there are 52 articles tagged as motorcycle-racing-stub in the category tree but I suspect there are many, potentially hundreds of untagged articles (such as 1930 Star Riders' Championship, 1948 Speedway National League Division Three and similar season articles), so also propose creation of  as subcat of  as and when 60 transclusions of the template is reached. SeveroTC 10:25, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Given that we already have a bio cat I see no problem with this, but do we need the "Motorcycle" in the category and template as we don't in the bio cat? Waacstats (talk) 20:55, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Support either title. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 21:16, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
 * The main category is at and the main article is at Motorcycle speedway, hence my suggestion here, but all sub-categories drop the word motorcycle (eg ). I proposed speedway-bio-stub having not realised where the main category/article were and it's in line with  (the main bio parent cat). Pro's for motorcycle-speedway-stub: main article/category and keeps in line with motorcycle-racing-stub/motorcycle-sport-stub. Pro's for speedway-stub: reflects wider Wikipedia usage. I don't really favour one in particular. SeveroTC 07:37, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Thanks to a small run recently by Dr. Blofeld, and a little end-run by me, CzechRepublic-painter-stub has been applied to just over 60 articles, by my count, and I intend on working up a couple more shortly. Time for a category, no? -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 16:51, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Speedy Waacstats (talk) 17:39, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

Split of
Another one that is getting close to oversized, looks like the following a both viable With categories at United States if that is the outcome at discussions. Waacstats (talk) 12:22, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
 * US-classical-musician-stub / catscan
 * US-brass-musician-stub / catscan
 * Support whichever outcome we arrive at. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 15:40, 19 October 2010 (UTC)


 * add to that US-DJ-stub / catscan. Waacstats (talk) 12:02, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

split of
Surprisingly there is no stub template for this, despite having so many. Indian Given Name stub Connormlh (talk) 02:16, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
 * That would be India-given-name-stub, but we don't really have that many... is only about a third of the way to the point where splitting it would be a priority, and a random sampling of the ones we have suggests that only about 30 are of Indian origin. Once this gets to a splittable size, it would perhaps make more sense to split into male and female names anyway. Grutness...wha?  06:51, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I agree with G, this doesn't look necesary at the moment (Surnames however!) and splitting male / female may be of more use. Waacstats (talk) 11:58, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Surnames perhaps...but male/female could be dicey, as I can think of a number of such names off the top of my head that are either-or (Courtney, Kelly, Claire, Carol and its variations, all come to mind.) -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 16:05, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

Another one without an upmerged template that appears to be over 60 catscan Propose template Portugal-artist-stub. Waacstats (talk) 20:26, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Support. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 15:41, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

Already have the tempaltes for this, the one problem is that we have an undersized Singer category, I propose that we delete the singer cat after creating the musician cat. Waacstats (talk) 19:16, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Support. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 15:41, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

As below so above, this time I suggest two templates Serbia-musician-stub and Serbia-singer-stub should be over 60 catscan. Waacstats (talk) 18:56, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Support. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 15:41, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

Believe it or not we don't even have an upmerged tempalte for the above but it seems that there are 60 articles within the Portuguese bio stub heirachy and musician stub heirachy that could go in here catscan Waacstats (talk) 12:31, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Support, by all means. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 18:24, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

split of and
There are currently 278 articles in the category Algae stubs. Many more algae stub articles are not tagged as stubs. The term "algae" refers to a large group of often distantly related organisms, making it unlikely that an editor would work on "algae stubs" in general. I would like to split out any large clades of stubs from the larger group to provide workable sub-categories, and to make the remainder of algae stubs a small group of organisms, even if they are unrelated.

I am beginning by cleaning up the Red Algae, and would like to move at least 37 articles from the category algae stubs to. I would then like to create.

I would like to move remove Phaeophyceae and Diatom stubs from, currently 183 stubbed articles, a number without stub tags, to and. The Chromalveolate are a very difficult group taxonomically, and some experts in particular areas, might not be able to even recognize genera from another taxon. There are many experts in Diatoms, and having their own stub category for this taxon of tens of thousands of species would provide a looking space for experts.

In addition, there is some tagging and clean-up being done by a bot, and stub sub-categories will facilitate organizing this. --KMLP (talk) 23:27, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I have no problem with templates for all of these but we normally only create categories once they have 60 or more articles. I think if we have this many then I support categories but lets see how many we ahve. Waacstats (talk) 12:29, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
 * We don't have 60 in all potential stub-categories however, we have too many in the main categories for the cats themselves to have any use. Diatom specialists won't even recognize the names of water moulds, across a couple of 100 million years, and brown algae specialists seldom know much about red algae. Stubifying in a way that pulls the larger groups out of algae stubs will make it possible to fix some of the existing articles, and ask experts for pictures and editing. I don't intend to make any small stub categories, only ones where I can pull out, say 30 or more articles, for taxonomically large and specalized groups, such as diatoms, golden algae, red algae. I won't make stub templates for poorly researched or taxonomically doubtful or obscure groups, or for groups that will never have more than the dozen stubs they have now. I'll start with the ones I've suggested, then come back and post with new ideas, after I pull these into their own stub categories, so I can see what remains. --Kleopatra (talk) 05:25, 19 October 2010 (UTC) (Usurpation rocks!)


 * Support stub templates, per Waac. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 18:25, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Support. I have no opinion about the fine points of stub sorting (e.g. categories versus templates), but as for the biology, the proposed splitting out of Rhodophyta, Diatom, Phaeophyceae (brown algae) (and probably others; I'm not sure exactly how many are being proposed right now) are unproblematic in the sense that each group is reasonably large and uncontroversial in terms of where the boundaries are drawn. Kingdon (talk) 21:27, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I think just splitting out the large groups and leaving in algae stubs that will not soon be parts of large categories is okay. We'll bring down the number in the main categories, it will be easier for editors working on stubs to run through the remaining articles, and they will see that there are diatom stubs, etc., elsewhere. So, I don't see any need for a bunch of small 5 article stub categories. --Kleopatra (talk) 04:40, 21 October 2010 (UTC) (the usurper)

Suriname-airport-stub
Surprised we don't have this; looking at suggests we could get forty easy. Uploading to, of course - unless I find twenty-odd lurking in the underbrush unexpectedly. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 21:17, 16 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Speedy based on exsting templates for other countries. Waacstats (talk) 14:15, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

split of
Oversized, looks like / Archipini-stub should be viable and get this below the 800 threshold. Waacstats (talk) 10:22, 16 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Support. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 21:15, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

Split of
Oversized, looks like Polychora-stub should be viable and get this below the 800 threshold. Waacstats (talk) 10:20, 16 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Support. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 21:15, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

split of
Oversized propose a split by decade to match US category for example UK-business-bio-1960s-stub and either or  whichever one wins out. Waacstats (talk) 10:15, 16 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Support. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 21:14, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

Split of
isn't yet at the stage where it needs to be split, and there's considerable under-sorting in it, but it looks like a Turkey-hist-stub and Turkey-org-stub would both be viable - the first would have at least 50 (probably far more - the Turkish titles mean nothing to me); the second would have well over 100 - of which almost 60 would be political parties, so a Turkey-party-stub may be worthwhile as well. Grutness...wha?  00:18, 16 October 2010 (UTC)
 * It's not as bad as it was as I've just taken out a load of sports stubs but yes it is still in need of a good tidy and these look like the tools needed. Support. Waacstats (talk) 09:35, 16 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Support. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 21:14, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

Flood-stub (upmerged)
Probably worthwhile having this upmerged into and  - there's at least 30 stubs that could take this template at the moment, and chances are there are many more hiding in various history stub categories. Grutness...wha?  23:21, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
 * G is back!! Support. Waacstats (talk) 09:34, 16 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Just visiting :) Grutness...wha?  21:35, 16 October 2010 (UTC)
 * glad to see you back even if it is only for a visit. Waacstats (talk) 14:16, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks! :) Grutness...wha?  22:16, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Support, yay. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 21:13, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

Speedway riders
speedway-bio-stub and as subcat of  and. Currently 83 articles in tagged with either motorcycle-sport-bio-stub or motorcycle-racing-bio-stub. SeveroTC 08:51, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Support. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 15:36, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

More album subcategories
Another that'll definitely hit 60: 2000s-progressive-rock-album-stub. 152.23.57.41 (talk) 14:37, 14 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Support. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 17:28, 14 October 2010 (UTC)

Looks like someones been busy as there are over 100 articles tagged with Australia-bio-stub and some form of Bishop-stub, propose a Australia-bishop-stub to group them all under the above category. Waacstats (talk) 13:12, 14 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Support. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 17:28, 14 October 2010 (UTC)

is starting to push upto 800 and Canada-crime-bio-stub has 60 articles. Speedy? Waacstats (talk) 10:11, 14 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Support speedy - it'd be criminal not to. (Sorry.) -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 17:27, 14 October 2010 (UTC)

split of
Starting to get quite large propose the following which both seem viable. willing to change the first cat to American depending on the outcome of the discussion at WP:WSS/d. Waacstats (talk) 09:36, 14 October 2010 (UTC)
 * US-pageant-bio-stub /
 * Venezuela-pageant-bio-stub /
 * Support whichever the outcome may be. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 17:27, 14 October 2010 (UTC)

is pushing close to 800 and Australia-mil-bio-stub is used over 60 times. Speedy? Waacstats (talk) 09:33, 14 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Support. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 17:25, 14 October 2010 (UTC)

2000s-classical-album-stub is now at 60; speedy? Can't do it myself; no username. More album stub categories will likely be coming. Hopefully for those rock albums.... 75.189.192.117 (talk) 02:29, 14 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Support. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 17:25, 14 October 2010 (UTC)

is currently oversized and no individual country has more than 60 articles so I propose the above fed by any upmerged templates needed of the form foo-fencing-bio-stub for any european country foo. Waacstats (talk) 11:03, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Support. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 18:06, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

is getting large and it looks like the above fed by Ireland-newspaper-stub would be over 60. Waacstats (talk) 23:39, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Support. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 18:06, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

Template US-baseball-outfielder-1860s-stub now has 66 articles. Dawynn (talk) 10:08, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Speedy based on numerous precedant. Waacstats (talk) 22:31, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm tabling this for now, because of this discussion. Latest discussion at this point indicates that the related categories will be renamed.  At that point, this would need to be created as .  I would prefer to see the similar categories renamed, and this one created under the parallel name. Dawynn (talk) 09:04, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Support under what ever name is chosen at the discussion, if it doesn't get sorted then create to match fellow subcats. Waacstats (talk) 08:24, 14 October 2010 (UTC)

is/was just the wrong side of 500 it needs a good tidy up but the above fed by Russia-keyboardist-stub will help trim it down more than anything. Waacstats (talk) 12:32, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Support. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 18:06, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

I never know if these go under academic-bio or music-bio or both, seen as there are over 140 in the music-bio tree I propose the above category fed by musicologist-stub and possibly US and UK templates. Waacstats (talk) 12:10, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Support Music-bio-stub can always do with more help. &bull; Lainagier &bull; talk &bull; 03:27, 9 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Support. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 18:07, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

Split of nation stubs
A number of countries are getting close to the 800 threshold I propose the following splits As a start in getting these down to reasonable levels. Waacstats (talk) 17:06, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
 * - Turkey-sport-stub
 * - Poland-sport-stub
 * - Sweden-sport-stub
 * - Indonesia-sport-stub
 * - Philippines-sport-stub
 * Support all. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 18:07, 12 October 2010 (UTC)