Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Proposals/Archive/2011/August

Per discussion at WT:WSS: 54 stubs marked with Israel-artist-stub plus another 12 marked with Israel-painter-stub = a threshold-load of stubs for a new category. Speediable, too? Grutness...wha?  10:22, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Support speedy. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 14:22, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Support Sehmeet singh  Talk  16:33, 9 September 2011 (UTC)

As below. I've been doing quite a bit of winnowing, and Sweden-painter-stub should now be on more than the requisite 60. I'm still looking, too, so that's likely to grow by a bit. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 17:23, 30 August 2011 (UTC)

Should be speediable. I've eyeballed, and if there aren't 60 articles tagged with Denmark-painter-stub, it'll be a small matter to push them over the necessary amount shortly. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 16:21, 30 August 2011 (UTC)

Bony fish stubs
For some reason, /paleo-bony-fish-stub was created before the non prehistoric category/tag set, /bony-fish-stub. I think we should fix that by creating the latter - note that fits into it, as well as 166 stubs currently in the parent,  (many of these may fit into either the Ray-finned fish or the prehistoric category, I didn't check). עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 11:32, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Support -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 14:44, 30 August 2011 (UTC)

Along the lines of the catch-all categories we have for sports biographies (and, for that matter, with things like ). There are some 55 articles loose in, which is too few for separate 1900s and 1890s categories, but which could easily be brought up to threshold - a lot of films of this era seem to have been simply marked with silent-film-stub with no by-decade template. Some templates by decade already exist, but we could probably do with more (see below). Would solve the problem of these templates appearing in a maintenance "needs attention" category for being in a category which doesn't end in "stubs", too.

Extra templates which might be useful:
 * 1900s-comedy-film-stub
 * 1900s-Germany-film-stub
 * 1890s-film-stub
 * 1880s-film-stub

Grutness...wha?  00:45, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Support all. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 14:44, 30 August 2011 (UTC)

NYC-road-stub /
There are the best part of 100 New York City streets, roads, avenues and boulevards parcelled up in various NYC and NYstate categories. A single template that could put them all together somewhere useful would be a good idea IMO. Grutness...wha?  23:40, 29 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Support -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 14:43, 30 August 2011 (UTC)

504 at the moment - not severely oversized but could stand paring. Tradition dictates separate tags for Scotland, England, Wales, etc., but I'm not sure that will help matters much. I'd suggest a by-century paring down, thus:
 * UK-painter-18thC-stub - 100 articles, according to CatScan
 * UK-painter-19thC-stub - 205 articles, according to CatScan
 * UK-painter-20thC-stub - 149 articles, according to CatScan

That should take care of most of 'em. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 17:45, 29 August 2011 (UTC)

The following are viable based on existing upmerged templates might be more to follow. Waacstats (talk) 16:55, 29 August 2011 (UTC)
 * US-baseball-pitcher-1850s-stub -
 * US-baseball-catcher-1870s-stub -
 * Support -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 17:37, 29 August 2011 (UTC)

Golf competition stubs
Two upmerged templates have passed threshold: SeveroTC 06:46, 29 August 2011 (UTC)
 * PGAChampionship-golf-stub →
 * USOpen-golf-stub →
 * Support about time these passed the threshold. Waacstats (talk) 08:06, 29 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Support -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 14:51, 29 August 2011 (UTC)

Woodpecker stubs
I propose /woodpecker-stub, which would help reduece the size of (a current scan finds 136 stubs, and use a more familiar word for stubs related to these birds. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 10:52, 28 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Easily makes 60 so support. Waacstats (talk) 08:07, 29 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Support -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 14:51, 29 August 2011 (UTC)

Roman Catholic document stubs
is oversized - a RC-document-stub / (without the "Roman" - the parent is at  would probably go a long way towards fixing things up - there are a dozen beginning with A alone! There are a lot of bulls and encyclicals in there... BTW, am I the only one a little nonplussed that we have  for Catholicism and  for the actual buildings? It's a little confusing... mind you - the problem almost certainly lies with the permcats, where the terms "Roman Catholic", "Catholic" and "Catholicism" seem to be thoroughly mixed. Grutness...wha?  00:06, 27 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Support and as to the Church/church I can't see what else we could call the cats. Waacstats (talk) 08:09, 29 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Me neither. I think it would be a case of going to CFD to try to get "Roman Catholic Church" changed to "Roman Catholicism", but I admit to not knowing that much about the subject - and those who do would probably object strongly for one reason or another. Grutness...wha?  08:14, 29 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Support -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 14:52, 29 August 2011 (UTC)

Some more possible subcats for prehistoric reptiles
I propose the following:
 * 1) /plesiosaur-stub - a current scan shows 71 stubs (Note that all plesiosaurs are prehistoric)
 * 2) /paleo-turtle-stub - a scan shows 63 71 stubs here.
 * 3) /paleo-lizard-stub - 62 70 stubs

How's that? עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 15:22, 25 August 2011 (UTC)
 * That's good. Support. Waacstats (talk) 08:11, 29 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Support -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 14:52, 29 August 2011 (UTC)

New European rapid transit stubs categories
Propose the following categories:
 * (ParisRER-metro-stub 78)
 * (Ukraine-metro-stub 17; Kiev-metro-stub 34; Kharkiv-metro-stub 20)
 * (Bilbao-metro-stub 30 ; Seville-metro-stub 27 ; Madrid-metro-stub 15)
 * (Barcelona-metro-stub 132)
 * (Russia-metro-stub 20 ; SaintPetersburg-metro-stub 55)
 * (Moscow-metro-stub 95)
 * (Milan-metro-stub 45 ; Naples-metro-stub 11 ; Turin-metro-stub 7 ; Rome-metro-stub 36)
 * (Brussels-metro-stub 60)
 * German rapid transit stubs
 * (Berlin-SBahn-stub 126)
 * (RhineRuhr-SBahn-stub 79)
 * (Stockholm-metro-stub 106)

This should tidy up the category nicely. My questions are: SeveroTC 10:39, 25 August 2011 (UTC)
 * 1) Should we create a France category to house and ?
 * 2) Should we create a country template for categories that don't have country templates (i.e. Italy-metro-stub and a possible France-metro-stub; Spain-metro-stub is already proposed below)?


 * Yes, not to mention a Sweden category (for ) and a Belgium category (for ).
 * Definitely if there are any stubswhich should be tagged with them (that is, belong to the country but not to any of the cities with their own tags), probably not otherwise.
 * עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 17:09, 25 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Hmm, can't say I see the point in a Sweden or Belgium category (or Norwegian for the existing or Czech for ) as there wouldn't be any other articles to go in them. Of articles currently tagged with Europe-metro-stub, 10 are for France but 0 are for Italy. SeveroTC 11:38, 26 August 2011 (UTC) (+ 17:04, 26 August 2011 (UTC))
 * Agree with all the templates and ctegories by city, as for the by country ones I would say templates yes but categories only if there are a few articles using the template. Waacstats (talk) 08:14, 29 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Support all, per Waacstaats. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 14:53, 29 August 2011 (UTC)

So is that a yes to and France-metro-stub but a no to Sweden, Belgium, Norway and Czech Republic categories (as templates wouldn't be used in any articles)? SeveroTC 07:23, 2 September 2011 (UTC)
 * No templates, certainly, but I don't see any reason why there shouldn't be parent-only cats, to match the rest of the pattern. Grutness...wha?  01:54, 3 September 2011 (UTC)

Prehistoric archosaur stubs
I propose creating /paleo-archosaur-stub, as the intersection of and  - a quick scan shows 298 pages, including 2 already existing subcts ( and ). עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 10:29, 25 August 2011 (UTC)
 * I see no reason why not, support Waacstats (talk) 08:15, 29 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Support -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 14:53, 29 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Support Sehmeet singh  Talk  16:40, 9 September 2011 (UTC)

Alternate ENGVAR versions of stub tags
Inoticed that some articles have ENGVARproblematic stub tags on them. For example, American Public Transportation Association (American English), has a stub tag which says "This article about transport is a stub" (transcluded from transport-stub). Since American English uses "transportation", not "transport", this is a problem. My solution is to do what was done with color-stub - make the main template accept parameters which allow for ENGVAR forks; create these fork templates at the ENGVAR-appropriate names (for example, transportation-stub - just like we have colour-stub); and then choose which template to use for each article based on the article and ENGVAR. Note that this won't affect any subsequent renaming of stub categories; this will just need to be done at the main stub tag page. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 06:49, 24 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Sounds reasonable, though it will make for quite a few redirects! Theatre/Theater is another case that could probably use this. Grutness...wha?  00:46, 25 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Support - as an American (and therefore a polluter of y'all's English (see what I did there?)) I think this would be most useful. I'm in favor of stub tag redirects generally, come to that. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 14:54, 29 August 2011 (UTC)

split of
Algeria-athletics-bio-stub has passed 60, any objections to ? Waacstats (talk) 21:36, 21 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Support - none here. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 14:51, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

split of
PRChina-tabletennis-bio-stub has passed 60, any objections to ? Waacstats (talk) 21:36, 21 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Support - none here. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 14:53, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

split of
not exceptionally large but the following may help with nationality parent cats
 * Germany-equestrian-bio-stub -
 * US-equestrian-bio-stub -
 * UK-equestrian-bio-stub -

cats iff templates reach 60 which a quick scan would suggest is only going to be Germany at the moment. Waacstats (talk) 21:36, 21 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Support. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 14:52, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

split of
In need of a tidy up but US-baseball-umpire-stub and would definitely help with cutting the size back down. Waacstats (talk) 21:36, 21 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Support - I went ahead and fixed the capitalization, too, for completeness' sake. :-) -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 14:54, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

Revamping of
I've proposed renaming this category at WP:SFD to either or, the names of its two possible parents. But the category's a bit of a mish-mash, since it also contains drinkware, which should reall be at its own loccation.As such, I'd like to propose: This would also go a long way towards making the currently woefully undersized more viable (as it would be a natural subcat for it). Grutness...wha?  04:17, 18 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Drinkware-stub, (iff...)
 * Support. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 15:10, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

Just templates for now, categories upon the size of the templates whether to go system based or country based:


 * Belgium: Brussels-metro-stub
 * France: Paris-RER-stub (or ParisRER-metro-stub ?)
 * Germany: Berlin-SBahn-stub, Hamburg-SBahn-stub, Munich-SBahn-stub and RhineRuhr-SBahn-stub Amended SeveroTC 07:14, 13 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Italy: Milan-metro-stub, Naples-metro-stub, Rome-metro-stub and Turin-metro-stub
 * Russia: SaintPetersburg-metro-stub and Russia-metro-stub (lots of systems with potential for growth so a country-level template seems best)
 * Spain: Barcelona-metro-stub, Bilbao-metro-stub, Madrid-metro-stub, Seville-metro-stub and Valencia-metro-stub (small but completes the Spain set)
 * Sweden: Stockholm-metro-stub
 * Ukraine: Kharkiv-metro-stub and Kiev-metro-stub

I also propose at this time a Europe-metro-stub to clear up all over European systems into one cat.

SeveroTC 16:31, 11 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Support all. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 19:27, 12 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Support. I'd go with ParisRER-metro-stub, and I think you're right about changing the foo-U-bahn-stubs to Ubahn. Grutness...wha?  00:17, 13 August 2011 (UTC)
 * S-Bahn amended to SBahn; I will take the existing U-Bahn ones to SFD. SeveroTC 07:14, 13 August 2011 (UTC)

I'm thinking also of an SBahn-stub and a UBahn-stub as redirects to Europe-metro-stub. SeveroTC 06:28, 16 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Support all♦ Dr. Blofeld  10:12, 14 August 2011 (UTC)

Update to add a Spain-metro-stub in place of the Valencia template - there are some new systems in Spain which could see some article growth and it's looking like a country level stub category so add the country-level template, which deprecated the need for the Valencia one. SeveroTC 16:55, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

European railway station stubs 2
This should deal with this category, at least on a country level, for a time: Categories iff 60, as usual. SeveroTC 12:21, 11 August 2011 (UTC)
 * CzechRepublic-railstation-stub /
 * Hungary-railstation-stub /
 * Sweden-railstation-stub /
 * Turkey-railstation-stub /
 * Ukraine-railstation-stub /
 * Support - yes. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 15:10, 11 August 2011 (UTC)

NewZealand-plant-stub /
Well into three figures, and many of them unique to NZ - would match the similar split for Australia, and would ease the pressure which is slowly growing on the (approaching 600-stub). Grutness...wha?  02:34, 11 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Support -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 15:11, 11 August 2011 (UTC)

Tibet-bio-stub
Need this for historical Tibetan biographies.♦ Dr. Blofeld  19:47, 7 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Support, not a bad idea. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 16:35, 8 August 2011 (UTC)

NewZealand-road-stub
Probably speediable - there's at least 30 of these, stubbed with all sorts of unlikely templates - possibly far more. May even be enough for a separate, though at the moment it looks like it won't quite get there. Grutness...wha?  06:47, 7 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Speedy template, category iff we have 60. Waacstats (talk) 13:45, 7 August 2011 (UTC)
 * I managed to find 42, so no category yet. Grutness...wha?  01:43, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Support whatever you come up with - I trust you. :-) -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 16:35, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
 * In that case, how about Antarctica-footyclub-stub? ;) (thanks for the compliment, BTW) Grutness...wha?  01:15, 9 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Why not? We have Vatican national football team...nothing would surprise me any more.  (You're most welcome - 'tis well-deserved indeed.) -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 15:25, 9 August 2011 (UTC)

US organizations
Looking a the oversized, it seems that the following might get to a viable size: Grutness...wha?  06:37, 7 August 2011 (UTC)
 * US-health-org-stub / (iff)
 * US-arts-org-stub / (iff)
 * Support these and I have a feeling someone proposed some other splits of this recently. Waacstats (talk) 13:44, 7 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Support -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 16:37, 8 August 2011 (UTC)

Split of
Another oversized category, creeping towards the 1000 mark. The following \may be useful potential splits: Thoughts? Grutness...wha?  06:29, 7 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Cognitive-psychology-stub Cognitive-psych-stub / (iff)
 * Developmental-psychology-stub Developmental-psych-stub / (iff)
 * Abnormal-psychology-stub Abnormal-psych-stub / (iff)
 * Social-psychology-stub Social-psych-stub / (iff)
 * If memory serves me correctly, this is your area of expertise so support. Waacstats (talk) 13:43, 7 August 2011 (UTC)
 * It is - or used to be, at least - though my specialist area of sensation and perception/psychophysics is still some way from a split. These ones definitely look doable, though. Grutness...wha?  00:38, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Support -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 16:38, 8 August 2011 (UTC)

Just realised that to keep these consistent with other templates it should be "psych", not "psychology" in each case. I've changed the proposal above, and will leave this another couple of days in casr there are any objections. Grutness...<small style="color:#008822;">wha?  08:02, 14 August 2011 (UTC)

Split of Protein stubs
This is one for a more scientificsally minded stub-sorter than me, but is currently one of the biggest oversized categories at 1150 stubs. It seems to me that it could be halved by dividing out the following two subtypes of proteins: Any thoughts? Grutness...<small style="color:#008822;">wha?  01:13, 7 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Globularprotein-stub /
 * Scleroprotein-stub /
 * I'm not very scienticsally minded either and I can't find perm cats for these so not to sure at the moment. Waacstats (talk) 13:43, 7 August 2011 (UTC)
 * It's hard to type with a cat on your lap :) Yeah, I couldn't find permcats either (apart from the one on my lap)... but protein states that this is the main way that proteins are divided up. Perhaps someone with some knowledge of the area should see whether permcats are a good idea there. Unfortunately, chemistry is not my forte. Grutness...<small style="color:#008822;">wha?  00:36, 8 August 2011 (UTC)

WesternAustralia-plant-stub /
A slightly unusual way to split plants, but judging by the first page of the oversized, this would be very useful indeed, taking some 700 of the 950 stubs in the category. And WA is a unique ecosystem within Australia, owing to the desert between it and the east. Grutness...<small style="color:#008822;">wha?  10:14, 6 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Given that i thought we had this or something similar Support. Waacstats (talk) 13:38, 7 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Support -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 16:38, 8 August 2011 (UTC)

Currently stands at 539. Not over-oversized, but it's getting there, and I think it would be a good idea to try and get it under control. CatScan reveals the following, along the lines of Italian painter stubs: CatScan is no longer cooperating, but there may be more viable; I'll check again later and add a note to that effect. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 16:13, 4 August 2011 (UTC) Update: Should take care of most of them. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 17:26, 4 August 2011 (UTC)
 * France-painter-17thC-stub - 65
 * France-painter-18thC-stub - 150
 * Support makes sense to me, likely to be many more too.♦ Dr. Blofeld  16:35, 4 August 2011 (UTC)
 * France-painter-19thC-stub: 212
 * France-painter-20thC-stub: 68
 * Support. Next time you are having problems with catscan try version2 bit harder to give links to but does give a lot more options than catscan. Waacstats (talk) 13:36, 7 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Ooh, lovely, thanks. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 16:39, 8 August 2011 (UTC)

Archery stubs
Propose, archery-stub (60) and archery-competition-stub (30). already exists as a natural subcat. SeveroTC 15:37, 4 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Support. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 16:08, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

Sport event stubs - the easy ones
Having scratched the surface, I realised that there is a lot of undersorting here. So here's part one - the easy sports: Numbers are rounded from CatScan. Categories if 60-threshold is met and it doesn't decimate the parent category. If no category, upmerged to and the respective sport's stub category. SeveroTC 15:24, 4 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Americanfootball-competition-stub (150)
 * AFL-competition-stub (45)
 * Badminton-competition-stub (110)
 * Basketball-competition-stub (175)
 * Canadianfootball-competition-stub (90)
 * Cue-sports-competition-stub (35)
 * Darts-competition-stub (60)
 * Fencing-competition-stub (90)
 * Fieldhockey-competition-stub (35)
 * Gymnastics-competition-stub (150)
 * Rugbyleague-competition-stub (90)
 * Rugbyunion-competition-stub (220)
 * Softball-competition-stub (25)
 * Volleyball-competition-stub (160)
 * Support all. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 15:32, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

Mistakes fixed (better late than never). SeveroTC 17:25, 30 December 2011 (UTC)

SouthSudan-politician-stub
I think we need this. Possibly we could have over 60 stubs soon making a viable.♦  Dr. Blofeld  14:26, 4 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Support -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 14:29, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

Ice hockey stubs
These took more than I thought they would so de-upmerging is possible: SeveroTC 14:15, 4 August 2011 (UTC)
 * icehockey-org-stub (61) >
 * icehockey-competition-stub (53 + ) >
 * Support -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 14:29, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

Yet more Norwegian politicians
I propose the following:
 * /NordTrøndelag-politician-stub - should have 71 stubs, including 32 NordTrøndelag-mayor-stubs
 * /Nordland-politician-stub - should have 75 stubs, including 19 Nordland-mayor-stubs
 * Oppland-politician-stub has 58 (almost, but not quite 60), including 13 Oppland-mayor-stubs
 * /Østfold-politician-stub should have 88, including 15 Østfold-mayor-stubs
 * Rogaland politician stubs/Rogaland-politician-stub should pick up 100, including 35 Rogaland-mayor-stub
 * /SørTrøndelag-politician-stub should pick up 110 stubs, including 38 SørTrøndelag-mayor-stubs
 * /SørTrøndelag-politician-stub should pick up 73, including 33 SørTrøndelag-mayor-stubs.

Any comments here? עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 13:26, 3 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Support -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 16:20, 3 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Support but you may want to check the tempalte of the last one (damn copy and paste!) Waacstats (talk) 21:01, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Should that have been SognFjordane-politician-stub / SognFjordane-mayor-stub? Figured we should clarify before we close the discussion. Dawynn (talk) 18:48, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes, it should. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 19:39, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

Mayor stubs
I propose the following structure of mayor stubs: The totals for the upmerged national categories, as well as the sizes and stub tag names, can be seen at User:Od Mishehu/mayor stubs. All scans on that page are acurate as of when I made them; the numbers inthis proposal are updated now. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 05:30, 2 August 2011 (UTC)
 * - upmerged by several national templates; scans by country give a total of 211 upmerged stubs, but the actual number here will probably be slightly smaller due to being double categorized
 * /Japan-mayor-stub - 81 stubs
 * - upmerged by several national templates; scans by country give a total of 452 stubs
 * /UK-mayor-stub - ✅
 * /Netherlands-mayor-stub - 87
 * /France-mayor-stub - 79
 * /Germany-mayor-stub - 81
 * /Ireland-mayor-stub - 127
 * /Norway-mayor-stub - 479 - already proposed
 * /Slovenia-mayor-stub - 86
 * - upmerged by several national templates; scans by country give a total of 92 stubs
 * - upmerged by several national templates; scans by country give a total of 70 stubs
 * - upmerged by several national templates; scans by country give a total of 135 stubs
 * - populated, in addition to the subcat below, by the single Marshalls-mayor-stub (scan)
 * /NewZealand-mayor-stub - 103
 * - upmerged by several national templates; scans by country give a total of 135 stubs
 * - populated, in addition to the subcat below, by the single Marshalls-mayor-stub (scan)
 * /NewZealand-mayor-stub - 103
 * /NewZealand-mayor-stub - 103


 * Support - Oceanian (with an "e" ;) would also contain the Australian cat as another subcat. A little surprised you've considered the Marshall Islands (with one stub) but ignored New Caledonia, which has about half a dozen - there's also at least one French Polynesia one. Grutness...<small style="color:#008822;">wha?  11:43, 2 August 2011 (UTC)
 * I didn't ignore these. The French Polynesia one wasn't tagged as a stub when I did these scans; and neither of these permcats is directly in (they're both in ), which is where I got my list of countries for this scan. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 12:05, 2 August 2011 (UTC)
 * FP is in "by country", and since French Guiana is too New Caledonia probably should be as well. We also usually do regard it as a separate entity from the point of view of stub sorting, and certainly link it into any Oceania cats. So it's almost certainly also worth having a template. Grutness...<small style="color:#008822;">wha?  23:52, 2 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Support - yes. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 14:44, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

Should I maybe group the Middle East in a sinlge subcat of Asia? Based on the scans I did, they should total 76. Given the 10 in, which is double-categorized in the Israelli and Palestinian categories, that would make it be more like 66 - and if a few were deleted or expanded, that's cutting it close to the 60 level. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 13:36, 3 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Support all♦ Dr. Blofeld  14:27, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

More Norwegian politicians
I propose the following: How's that? עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 05:10, 2 August 2011 (UTC)
 * 1) Finnmark-politician-stub has 48, including 12 Finnmark-mayor-stubs
 * 2) /Hedmark-politician-stub has 66 stubs, including 24 Hedmark-mayor-stubs
 * 3) /Hordaland-politician-stub has 131 stubs, including 38 Hordaland-mayor-stubs
 * 4) /MøreRomsdal-politician-stub has 82 stubs, including 32 MøreRomsdal-mayor-stubs
 * Support - that's fine, is how that is. :-) -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 14:44, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

Europe road stubs
Have just sorted through, the following have passed the 60 threshold and can now be de-upmerged:



Also propose two city-level templates to upmerge here (we already have a London one):
 * Paris-road-stub (to France)
 * Stockholm-road-stub (to Sweden)

The following country level templates should also prove useful:
 * Bulgaria-road-stub
 * CzechRepublic-road-stub
 * Netherlands-road-stub
 * Romania-road-stub

The other European countries don't look worthwhile for templates at the moment.

One last one to think about: a split of. If roads that are wholly within one constiuent country of the UK are split (i.e. leaving all roads that cross a border at UK-road-stub), we could make:


 * England-road-stub +  (152 articles)
 * Scotland-road-stub (29)
 * Wales-road-stub (27)

I'm not so keen on these, as I don't think it's preferable to have articles marked with two of the above templates when the UK-level one will do. But it's out there to consider. (Northern Ireland, by the way, only picks up 8, but if we were to go with the others, we could do NI to complete the set.)

SeveroTC 15:48, 1 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Support all. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 16:43, 1 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Support almost all. A little concerned about the Paris and Stockholm ones, since the London one isn't for the city, but for the metropolitan county. Are there similar counties/departments/provinces which could be used rather than making them directly for the cities? Grutness...<small style="color:#008822;">wha?  01:48, 2 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Stockholm > Stockholm County. It might be better to make Paris into an Île-de-France template at IledeFrance-road-stub to cover the whole region. SeveroTC 04:34, 2 August 2011 (UTC)
 * But on the other hand, the permcat is . Of the 109 articles in this category, only Axe historique isn't wholly within the Paris department. The geo stub for the Paris department is at Paris-geo-stub. SeveroTC 10:01, 2 August 2011 (UTC)
 * OK, fair enough. Grutness...<small style="color:#008822;">wha?  11:54, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

Any thoughts on the UK ones? SeveroTC 17:02, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Support Good call.♦ Dr. Blofeld  14:26, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

Antarctica IX: Victoria Land
"Well George, I think we've knocked the bastard off." Victoria Land, with its 2000 stubs, neatly divides into three sections: the Scott Coast, the Borchgrevink Coast, and the Pennell Coast. Normally the Scott one would still be too big, but I've already proposed taking out the McMurdo Dry Valley stubs. So I'd like to propose:
 * ScottCoast-geo-stub / (750 stubs plus one subcat)
 * McMurdoDryValleys-geo-stub / (310 stubs - already proposed in Antarctica "fit the 8th")
 * BorchgrevinkCoast-geo-stub / (320 stubs)

Theoretically, we could complete the set with PennellCoast-geo-stub to take the remaining 500 stubs, but the definition of the Pennell Coast's a bit more hazy - some sources just list the coastal area, others list the interior hinterland as well. In any case, that would drop the main Victoria Land category down to only a handful of stubs.

And that, ladies and gentlemen, is just about it for Antarctica! Grutness...<small style="color:#008822;">wha?  04:01, 1 August 2011 (UTC) (bows, waves at crowd, refuses any encores)
 * Support - most excellent. Let me know what sort of interference you'd like me to run. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 13:41, 1 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Any AWB help would be very gratefully received! I'm doing the Graham Land ones at the moment (half way through Danco Coast)... but that still leaves Graham Coast and Fallieres/Fallières Coast (see note at the nom which explains the latter's naming...) Grutness...<small style="color:#008822;">wha?  01:50, 2 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Right - I'll look at some of it tonight and see what I can do. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 14:46, 2 August 2011 (UTC)