Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Proposals/Archive/2011/February

Split of
Even considering that some of the templates have not fully moved to new categories, the European political party stubs is over 800, and I'm not finding any more countries that can support a full category at this time. I'd like to propose a split of Europe, mostly based on the UN geoscheme. Propose the following new parent-only categories: Dawynn (talk) 19:42, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
 * (63 P)
 * (90 P)
 * Belarus-party-stub		(22 P)
 * Bulgaria-party-stub		(48 P)
 * CzechRepublic-party-stub		(21 P)
 * Hungary-party-stub		(15 P)
 * Moldova-party-stub		(28 P)
 * Romania-party-stub		(19 P)
 * Russia-party-stub		(37 P)
 * Slovakia-party-stub		(22 P)
 * (63 P)
 * (121 P)
 * (127 P)
 * Estonia-party-stub		(10 P)
 * Finland-party-stub		(29 P)
 * Iceland-party-stub		(17 P)
 * Ireland-party-stub		(8 P)
 * Latvia-party-stub		(27 P)
 * Lithuania-party-stub		(17 P)
 * Norway-party-stub		(28 P)
 * (55 P)
 * (31 P)
 * (110 P)
 * (66 P)		(Also in Asia)
 * Albania-party-stub		(55 P)
 * Andorra-party-stub		(16 P)
 * BosniaHerzegovina-party-stub	(33 P)
 * Croatia-party-stub		(27 P)
 * Cyprus-party-stub		(23 P)		(Also in Asia)
 * Gibraltar-party-stub		(9 P)
 * Greece-party-stub		(33 P)
 * Kosovo-party-stub		(32 P)
 * Malta-party-stub			(2 P)
 * Montenegro-party-stub		(14 P)
 * Portugal-party-stub		(34 P)
 * RMacedonia-party-stub		(19 P)
 * Slovenia-party-stub		(9 P)
 * (112 P)
 * (64 P)
 * Austria-party-stub		(30 P)
 * Belgium-party-stub		(21 P)
 * Liechtenstein-party-stub		(6 P)
 * Luxembourg-party-stub		(10 P)
 * Monaco-party-stub		(5 P)
 * Netherlands-party-stub		(23 P)
 * Switzerland-party-stub		(13 P)
 * (subcategorize under both Europe and Asia)
 * Armenia-party-stub		(32 P)
 * Azerbaijan-party-stub		(23 P)
 * Georgia-party-stub		(32 P)
 * (subcategorize under both Europe and Asia)
 * Armenia-party-stub		(32 P)
 * Azerbaijan-party-stub		(23 P)
 * Georgia-party-stub		(32 P)
 * Support all. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 20:25, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Support all, but... it's advisable you check the definitions of "Eastern Europe", since the term is regarded as derogatory in some parts of the former Soviet Bloc (the term "Central Europe" is preferred in those parts which weren't in the Soviet Union, IIRC). Grutness...wha?  22:13, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

NorthCaucasus-geo-stub
Today Category:Russia geography stubs splits into 7 subcats, one for each of the Federal Districts of the Russian Federation. In 2010, they divided the Southern Federal District (Category:Southern Russia geography stubs) into two, splitting off the new North Caucasian Federal District. We should create a stub cat for the new District, in order to be consistent, and reorder the tree, regardless of the number of currently existing stubs (there are 252 total in South-Russia today). -- Y not? 17:10, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
 * That would be NorthCaucasus-geo-stub, without the hyphen, since it's the name of the new district, rather than a stub for just a subpart of a Caucasian Federal District. I'd certainly support a template, and a category iff it reaches the 60-stub threshold. Grutness...wha?  21:54, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Ya, I bet it would, given the 252 in the parent. Do I need to go count?  I forgot how things work around here, Grutness - I haven't been around WSS in a couple of years...  Even if it doesn't reach sixty, wouldn't it make sense to make a template for consistency anyway? -- Y not? 03:19, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Best thing would probably be to make the template upmerged at first - it'll be easy for anyone using the template to see (with the "what links here") if and when it gets to 60. Since it's been brought up here and general comments seem to be supporting the category if it reaches threshold, it can be speedily made and added to the template once it gets there - by you if you get there during the sorting :) Since a lot of the stubs are already sorted by Oblast for Russia, it should be pretty easy to work out quickly enough if there are enough stubs for a category. Grutness...wha?  10:46, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Support template, no matter the number of articles. Support category if 60+ articles can be found. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 04:49, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
 * If my understanding is correct, the new Region contains the following seven oblasts which we already have geo-stubs for:
 * NorthOssetiaAlania-geo-stub 11
 * StavropolKrai-geo-stub 23
 * KabardinoBalkaria-geo-stub 26
 * Kalmykia-geo-stub 10
 * Ingushetia-geo-stub 6
 * Dagestan-geo-stub 20
 * Chechnya-geo-stub 22
 * Which gives 118 and enough for a category already (unless I've missed something?). SeveroTC 11:09, 1 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Gracias, amigos. -- Y not? 16:10, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Looks like plenty to me - go for it. Grutness...wha?  22:15, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
 * So... should I just go for it? Or do I need to wait until someone closes this? Or should I close it myself? :) -- Y not? 01:55, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
 * It's been here over a week and there's been no objectionsw so - either you can create it yourself now, or you can wait for someone here to get round to it (which probably won't take too long). Your choice :) Grutness...wha?  08:19, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

Georgia-election-stub
Template for elections in the country of Georgia. Will double-upmerge to and. Dawynn (talk) 12:56, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Support. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 14:49, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Split of
Starting to get large propose we follow the defencemen and wingers and split by Dob along the lines of Canada-icehockey-centre-1980s-stub and. Waacstats (talk) 21:20, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Support. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 03:23, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Split of
Another one getting larger propose we follow the standard and split categories only for those templates reaching 60. Waacstats (talk) 21:20, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Finland-icehockey-player-stub -
 * Finland-icehockey-goaltender-stub -
 * Finland-icehockey-defenceman-stub -
 * Finland-icehockey-centre-stub -
 * Finland-icehockey-winger-stub -
 * Support. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 03:23, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

More sport by countries
Propose the next bunch of sport by country templates and categories. All categories and foo-sport-stub templates are new and all other upmergable templates and categories already exist except where the templates are marked (*). This covers all European countries from Iceland upwards in terms of population. Categories only when 60 is reached from the upmergable templates. I think that Moldova is the only one a little short but it may just tip 60. SeveroTC 21:10, 27 February 2011 (UTC)


 * good work there severo, Support all and given that we will have bio categories for all those I think any that do fall a little short would be OK. Waacstats (talk) 21:17, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
 * OOps yeah, forgot to mention that all will also have bio cats as subcats. SeveroTC 21:21, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Support every blessed one. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 03:24, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Yup, these look like goers - I think that you can probably add Luxembourg to the list, too. Grutness...wha?  04:16, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
 * We already have . Templates for the small states are a possibility which I will look at in the days ahead. SeveroTC 08:52, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Oh! okaaay- I was going by the footyclub stub, which feeds directly into . I'll change that... Grutness...wha?  11:59, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
 * A Fiji-sport-stub/Fiji-sports-venue-stub/Fiji-footyclub-stub combination would account for close to 70 articles, enough for a, and it would also have bio subcat. Grutness...wha?  01:11, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
 * I will add it to the list. I haven't had a close look at - well - anywhere outside of Europe yet, just done a few of the more obvious candidates. SeveroTC 19:06, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

Wintersport bios
The following should all be viable obviously categories iff the templates do reach 60 (I'm not 100% confident of the Hungarian one).
 * Estonia-wintersport-bio-stub -
 * Hungary-wintersport-bio-stub -
 * Slovenia-wintersport-bio-stub -
 * Support all. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 18:25, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

upmerged template US-icehockey-centre-stub has just passed 60. anyone fancy speedying it. Waacstats (talk) 18:17, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Support - I may touch it later if no one else does. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 18:25, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Support, with a question - "centre" or "center"? (same with Canada, above) Grutness...wha?  22:14, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
 * The perm cats and articles use centre I see no reason to change this, my guess is as ice hockey is a Canadian sport it uses Commonwealth spelling as opposed to the american center.. Waacstats (talk) 23:33, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Good point. Japan has judo, China has king fu, Korea has taekwondo - the Canadian martial art is hockey :) Grutness...wha?  11:50, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

should be viable, fed by Kazakhstan-wintersport-bio-stub and Kazakhstan-icehockey-bio-stub. Waacstats (talk) 00:06, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Support - I'm always willing to give such things a sporting chance. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 00:18, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

Various splits of ice hockey bios
Firstly, should be viable, fed by the existing Japan-icehockey-bio-stub, SouthKorea-icehockey-bio-stub and three new templates Asia-icehockey-bio-stub, kazakhstan-icehockey-bio-stub and PRChina-icehockey-bio-stub.

Secondly the following categories should be viable and finally in tidying up the european cat I may want a few templates such as Austria-icehockey-bio-stub, Italy-icehockey-bio-stub and maybe others. Hope that is not to difficult to follow. Waacstats (talk) 00:06, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
 * - Switzerland-icehockey-bio-stub
 * - Norwegian-icehockey-bio-stub
 * Support breaking the ice. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 00:19, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

To pick up these categories: Dawynn (talk) 23:56, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
 * (Also categorized under Europe politics stubs)
 * (includes )
 * (Also categorized under Europe politics stubs)
 * (includes )
 * (includes )
 * (includes )
 * (includes )
 * Support all. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 00:19, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

Jurist stubs
Could use some pruning - though not oversized, it contains 504 stubs on its own. Might I suggest as a subcat? It would be populated by either Euro-jurist-stub or individual country templates. I'm in favor of the latter, but would consider the former as well. Thoughts? -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 20:19, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Support principal, but are not existing templates for European countries at Foo-law-bio-stub in which case I would think we are better off sticking to using -law-bio-stub instead of -jursit-stub. Also I would suggest using national templates for ost nations with a Europe-law-bio-stub to mop up the countries with only a couple of articles. Waacstats (talk) 23:59, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Again it';s worth pointing out that the term jurist has different meanings on the two sides of the Atlantic, too, which may add to the confusion. Grutness...wha?  00:14, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
 * ...I knew that. Sorry.


 * 's what I get for suggesting stub tags while half-asleep... -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 00:21, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

Caribbean-actor-stub
Looks like it could be useful, at least as a template - not sure about category yet. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 18:15, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Support template, category iff we get it to 60. Waacstats (talk) 23:55, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

More South American actor stubs
Peru-actor-stub and Colombia-actor-stub are both viable, though I don't think either will need a category yet. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 18:07, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Speedy support based on precedant, and categories iff we have 60. Waacstats (talk) 23:54, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

Chile-actor-stub
Amazed we don't have this yet. would be the category, if necessary (which it may be, actually...not sure yet.) -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 18:01, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Speedy support based on precedant. Waacstats (talk) 23:54, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

South Sudan stubs
As per the referendum of last month, Southern Sudan is going to become independent (as South Sudan) in July of this year. Is it too early to discuss creating stub tags for the new country? I don't see that we have any as yet. I think we'll need:
 * SouthSudan-stub
 * SouthSudan-geo-stub
 * SouthSudan-bio-stub
 * SouthSudan-politician-stub

I can't imagine that there will be any others yet. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 17:46, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Discussion's already started here. It's also mentioned on the Discoveries page due to the discovery of SouthernSudan-stub. I think it is still too soon to make them, since the name of the new country's still not been formalised AFAIK, but once it is it'll be a good idea to start, and those four make perfect sense. Grutness...wha?  21:33, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Perhaps I had misread, or it was misquoted in the media, but I think "South Sudan" has since been formalized. There was some comment about other names being bandied about, but not being adopted. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 21:57, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Well, if that's the official one, it'd be the one to use (just a case of finding confirmation, I guess...) Grutness...wha?  23:33, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I have no problem with the idea here but our articles seem to use Southern Sudan at the moment so that would be where I would suggest calling the templates, better yet I think would be to hold off completley till we have a confirmed name. Waacstats (talk) 23:53, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Mind you, making them at one name with redirects at the other might make sense - we can always reverse the redirects if necessary. It sounds like the only names being used by the media and by the (Southern) Sudanese themselves are these two. Grutness...wha?  00:12, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
 * That of course assumes that they don't eventually decide on some other name. Waacstats (talk) 16:29, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

New politics categories
I should have seen these earlier, as I was requesting the political party categories: Dawynn (talk) 15:48, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
 * .  Will pick up:
 * Turkey-poli-stub (3 P)
 * / Poland-poli-stub. Will pick up:
 * / Sweden-poli-stub. Will pick up:
 * / Poland-poli-stub. Will pick up:
 * / Sweden-poli-stub. Will pick up:
 * / Sweden-poli-stub. Will pick up:
 * / Sweden-poli-stub. Will pick up:
 * Support all. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 16:01, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

More political party country categories
Found a few articles for Cyprus, currently tagged with Europe-party-stub: And a couple controversial ones. Should I create these, or just tag with the optional tag indicated? Dawynn (talk) 14:04, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Cyprus-party-stub (Planning to tag the Northern Cyprus parties with the same tag.  Is that OK?)
 * Transinistra-party-stub. See Transinistra.  Optional: continue to tag with Moldova-party-stub
 * Abkhazia-party-stub. See Abkhazia.  Optional: tag with Georgia-party-stub
 * Support the first. Regarding the latter two: as I recall, it's not practice to create stubs for such subnational entities that have very little, if any, international recognition.  Am I correct, or do my wits woolgather? -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 14:56, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Exactly right. Support Cyprus, oppose the other two. And Northern Cyprus gets tagged with the Cyprus tag for exactly the same reason. Grutness...wha?  21:36, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

Sport by country cats
As Waacstats predicted, speediable cats and Venezuela-sports-venue-stub: Let me know if I've missed anything. SeveroTC 12:20, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
 * - Croatia-sport-stub (35) + Croatia-sports-venue-stub (31) + +
 * - Egypt-sport-stub (31) + Egypt-sports-venue-stub (22) + Egypt-footyclub-stub (31) +
 * - Malaysia-sport-stub (36) + Malaysia-sports-venue-stub (35) + Malaysia-footyclub-stub (12) +
 * - Singapore-sport-stub (40) + Singapore-sports-venue-stub (20) + Singapore-footyclub-stub (2) +
 * - Venezuela-sport-stub (34) + Venezuela-sports-venue-stub (37) +
 * Support all. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 14:56, 25 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Support, but for consistency "Singaporean sport stubs" would be better. Grutness...wha?  21:37, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Currently we have:
 * SeveroTC 07:30, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
 * That's not really relevant, since different subjects use either noun or adjective depending on the naming of the permcats ("Fooian bar" becomes "Fooian bar stubs"; "Bar in/of/from Foo" becomes "Foo bar stubs"). What is relevant though is that all other sport stubs categories use the adjectival form (Aergentine, Australian, Belgian, Canadian, Colombian, Czech, and 33 others), as do all the others proposed. for consistency, Singapore should match that with . Grutness...<small style="color:#008822;">wha?  09:28, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I agree with G support all with Singaporean instead of Singapore (though I don't recall an Aergentine cat). Waacstats (talk) 23:33, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
 * :) Typing with a cat on my lap - I'm surprised it was recognisable at all! Grutness...<small style="color:#008822;">wha?  23:47, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I thought it was the cats that did all the work anyway! Waacstats (talk) 16:30, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
 * SeveroTC 07:30, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
 * That's not really relevant, since different subjects use either noun or adjective depending on the naming of the permcats ("Fooian bar" becomes "Fooian bar stubs"; "Bar in/of/from Foo" becomes "Foo bar stubs"). What is relevant though is that all other sport stubs categories use the adjectival form (Aergentine, Australian, Belgian, Canadian, Colombian, Czech, and 33 others), as do all the others proposed. for consistency, Singapore should match that with . Grutness...<small style="color:#008822;">wha?  09:28, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I agree with G support all with Singaporean instead of Singapore (though I don't recall an Aergentine cat). Waacstats (talk) 23:33, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
 * :) Typing with a cat on my lap - I'm surprised it was recognisable at all! Grutness...<small style="color:#008822;">wha?  23:47, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I thought it was the cats that did all the work anyway! Waacstats (talk) 16:30, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I thought it was the cats that did all the work anyway! Waacstats (talk) 16:30, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

Speedy request. To pick up Turkey-party-stub. 63 articles. Dawynn (talk) 11:56, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Support speedy. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 14:56, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

Speedy request. To pick up Poland-party-stub - 61 articles. Dawynn (talk) 11:44, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Support speedy. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 14:57, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

Speedy request. Will pick up Sweden-party-stub. (120 P) If someone is familiar with politics in Sweden, please review whether I've tagged only appropriate articles. Some of these may only be remotely tied to a party. Dawynn (talk) 19:19, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Support speedy. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 21:42, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

Georgia-party-stub
Proposal to build a template for Georgia (country), upmerge to. See the "Continental delineation" header here for a discussion as to whether this should double-upmerge to or. Dawynn (talk) 16:02, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Support - what about both? I think I've seen that choice before. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 16:55, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

Split of
Propose the following templates:


 * Albania-election-stub
 * Andorra-election-stub
 * Belarus-election-stub
 * Belgium-election-stub
 * BosniaHerzegovina-election-stub
 * Bulgaria-election-stub
 * Croatia-election-stub
 * CzechRepublic-election-stub
 * Estonia-election-stub
 * Finland-election-stub
 * Gibraltar-election-stub
 * Greece-election-stub
 * Hungary-election-stub
 * Italy-election-stub
 * Kosovo-election-stub
 * Latvia-election-stub
 * Liechtenstein-election-stub
 * Lithuania-election-stub
 * Malta-election-stub
 * Moldova-election-stub
 * Monaco-election-stub
 * Montenegro-election-stub
 * Netherlands-election-stub
 * Norway-election-stub
 * Poland-election-stub
 * Portugal-election-stub
 * RMacedonia-election-stub
 * Romania-election-stub
 * Russia-election-stub
 * Serbia-election-stub
 * Slovakia-election-stub
 * Slovenia-election-stub
 * Spain-election-stub
 * Sweden-election-stub
 * Switzerland-election-stub
 * Ukraine-election-stub

Dawynn (talk) 10:40, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Support all. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 15:11, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

Split of
Propose the following templates:


 * Andorra-gov-stub
 * Belarus-gov-stub
 * BosniaHerzegovina-gov-stub
 * CzechRepublic-gov-stub
 * Denmark-gov-stub
 * Estonia-gov-stub
 * Gibraltar-gov-stub
 * Iceland-gov-stub
 * Italy-gov-stub
 * Latvia-gov-stub
 * Liechtenstein-gov-stub
 * Lithuania-gov-stub
 * Luxembourg-gov-stub
 * Malta-gov-stub
 * Moldova-gov-stub
 * Monaco-gov-stub
 * Montenegro-gov-stub
 * Netherlands-gov-stub
 * Poland-gov-stub
 * Portugal-gov-stub
 * RMacedonia-gov-stub
 * Romania-gov-stub
 * Serbia-gov-stub
 * Slovakia-gov-stub
 * Slovenia-gov-stub
 * Switzerland-gov-stub
 * Ukraine-gov-stub

Dawynn (talk) 10:40, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Support all. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 15:12, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

split of
three currently upmerged templates have passed 60 any objections to creating the categories: Waacstats (talk) 23:02, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
 * NorthAm-footy-competition-stub -
 * SouthAm-footy-competition-stub -
 * Africa-footy-competition-stub -
 * S(up)port all. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 15:10, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Support - but perhaps to make them all (or certainly the North American one) "Foo association football competition stubs". Grutness...<small style="color:#008822;">wha?  21:20, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I have no problem with that but I think we need to look at all the subcats of association football stubs as the only Continents with any disambig are North America and Oceania and those are Oceanian football (Soccer) club stubs. Waacstats (talk) 22:24, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Just the NorthAm one, then - only having the word "football" is bound to cause confusion there. Grutness...<small style="color:#008822;">wha?  02:25, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

/ Albania-poli-stub
Could not quite muster enough articles specifically under political parties, but this is feasible. New category would house... Subcategorize under and  (or better, if approved: ) Dawynn (talk) 16:50, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
 * (106 P)
 * Albania-gov-stub (19 P)
 * Albania-party-stub (53 P)
 * Support. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 22:15, 23 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Support - another thing you might want to look at, Dawynn, is Europe election stubs. Looks like there's a lot of undersorting (Germany could probably get to threshold), and a lot of missing templates. Grutness...<small style="color:#008822;">wha?  22:33, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

/ Europe-poli-stub
Proposal of new category and template. Propose placing the following as subcategories: Dawynn (talk) 16:44, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Support. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 22:15, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Support - also fixed the name in the header to  Grutness...<small style="color:#008822;">wha?  22:29, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

Split of
I see that this is nearing the 800 mark. Asking permission to explore a breakup of this category. Please approve the following templates:


 * Albania-party-stub
 * Andorra-party-stub
 * Austria-party-stub
 * Belarus-party-stub
 * Belgium-party-stub
 * BosniaHerzegovina-party-stub
 * Bulgaria-party-stub
 * Croatia-party-stub
 * CzechRepublic-party-stub
 * Estonia-party-stub
 * Finland-party-stub
 * Gibraltar-party-stub
 * Greece-party-stub
 * Hungary-party-stub
 * Iceland-party-stub
 * Ireland-party-stub
 * Kosovo-party-stub
 * Latvia-party-stub
 * Liechtenstein-party-stub
 * Lithuania-party-stub
 * Luxembourg-party-stub
 * RMacedonia-party-stub
 * Malta-party-stub
 * Moldova-party-stub
 * Monaco-party-stub
 * Montenegro-party-stub
 * Netherlands-party-stub
 * Norway-party-stub
 * Portugal-party-stub
 * Romania-party-stub
 * Russia-party-stub
 * Slovakia-party-stub
 * Slovenia-party-stub
 * Sweden-party-stub
 * Switzerland-party-stub

All of these will upmerge to as well as the respective country category. Dawynn (talk) 13:23, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Support - I'm a bit surprised we don't have these yet. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 16:58, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Do it up. Aelfthrytha (talk) 03:21, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

British sport stubs
As per the discussion below:

By constituent country (each to include relevant football club and sportspeople stub categories)


 * & UK-sport-stub (to include, , and )
 * & Wales-sport-stub ~120 (including upmerged venues - see below; also to house )
 * & NorthernIreland-sport-stub ~50 (including upmerged venues - see below)

Sports venues with approximate numbers - categories if 60 threshold reached.
 * ~286 – England-sports-venue-stub or templates on a regional level
 * ~70 – Scotland-sports-venue-stub
 * ~43 – Wales-sports-venue-stub
 * ~30 – NorthernIreland-sports-venue-stub

I'm not entirely sure how to sort English sports venue stubs - I was thinking to create templates for each region but many of the regions already have subcategories on the county level - but creating county level sports venue templates seems a bit extreme. SeveroTC 12:51, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I think this looks good, I don't see any reason for splitting the English sports venues just yet, don't forget the bio stubs for Wales and NI Sports stubs. Waacstats (talk) 13:42, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Support all suggestions. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 16:58, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

To pull in existing category: And existing templates: Dawynn (talk) 15:52, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
 * RMacedonia-basketball-team-stub	11 P
 * RMacedonia-footyclub-stub		48 P
 * RMacedonia-sports-venue-stub		21 P
 * Support -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 17:01, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Support - and probably worth to add a RMacedonia-sport-stub for the category although CatScan only gives it 16. SeveroTC 19:53, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Support (including Severo's template suggestion), though I'm a little concerned about using a bald "Macedonian" name for such stub categories. I note also that we have an unused, which without doubt needs upmerging (and which is currently at SFD). Grutness...<small style="color:#008822;">wha?  23:33, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I had proposed it for SFD. And the 7 days passed, with no argument.  I cleaned out the  / Macedonia-basketball-stub.  Reason: I didn't find anyone else with a category "Foo[ian] basketball stubs", and since Macedonia couldn't fill the category, I didn't see as how they needed to start the trend. Dawynn (talk) 02:19, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

CharacterEncoding-stub /
Permcat for template is. Proposing to use this template along with the existing digital-typography-stub template to build the new category. Currently 45 articles under digital-typography-stub, so I'm betting we can find at least 15 more under character encoding for the new category. Dawynn (talk) 15:18, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Support -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 17:01, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

WordProcessor-stub /
I've been dumping these articles in, since they typically are included in what are known as "Office Suites". However, I'm guessing there may be enough here for a true separate category. Category to be built only if 60 articles found. Dawynn (talk) 15:03, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Support -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 17:00, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

cms-software-stub /
Permcat. At least a template is due here. Possibly able to support a category. Category to be built only if 60 articles found. Dawynn (talk) 15:03, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Support -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 17:00, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

split of
Tidying this up a bit and it looks like a Argentina-rugbyunion-team-stub would be of use, don't know for sure if it would hit 60 but would certainly get more use than any of the current upmerged templates (England, France, Ireland, Italy, Australia, NewZealand and SouthAfrica) though they are probably under used. iff it gets to 60.Waacstats (talk) 15:01, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Support -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 17:00, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Support. I'll have a look to see what else, if anything, can reach threshold. As far as upmerged templates go, it looks like a US-rugbyunion-team-stub and Canada-rugbyunion-team-stub would also be useful. There are also a lot of stubs for national teams of lesser rugby nations... Grutness...<small style="color:#008822;">wha?  23:38, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
 * A National-rugbyunion-team-stub (similar to how we have National-footy-team-stub) would get 72 (and if so would merit a category ). SeveroTC 06:51, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Looks good I had forgotton about that footy template, should seriously help cut it down. Waacstats (talk) 13:43, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Update - I managed to get England up to threshold, so is now speediable... Grutness...<small style="color:#008822;">wha?  09:59, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Well I've speedied it. Waacstats (talk) 00:10, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

split of
Again not 100% sure these will need categories but the following would both be useful (Catscan counts are not being much help as a lot of players are in by team categories which are obvoiusly also used on foriegn players of those teams) Categories iff we get to 60. Waacstats (talk) 15:01, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Germany-icehockey-bio-stub -
 * France-icehockey-bio-stub -
 * Support -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 16:59, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

Install-software-stub /
Requesting this new template and potential category to sift off permcat installation software articles from. Not sure how many this will pick up at this time. A cross-category catscan only indicates about 13 articles, while a size-based scan indicates possibly as high as 93. Category to be built only when template reaches 60 articles. Dawynn (talk) 14:32, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Support -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 16:59, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

Three of the upmerged templates have passed the 60 mark propose the following Waacstats (talk) 22:20, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Canada-icehockey-winger-1930s-stub -
 * Canada-icehockey-winger-1920s-stub -
 * Canada-icehockey-winger-1900s-stub -
 * Support -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 16:59, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

enough articles have been found to push US-weightlifting-bio-stub above 60, any objections to speedying the category. Waacstats (talk) 18:41, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Support none here -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 16:58, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

Speedy Create of Category:Trenčín geography stubs
Trenčín-geo-stub is currently upmerged to Category:Slovakia geography stubs, which I'm trying to wrangle down from 600+. Catscan shows 95 stubs for this category, and I'm still tagging many as I go through. Aelfthrytha (talk) 04:11, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Up to 208 and still adding, but quitting for the night. Aelfthrytha (talk) 04:52, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Support speedy. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 17:48, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Looks good enough for a speedy to me. Waacstats (talk) 22:04, 19 February 2011 (UTC)

Réunion-bio-stub
Not enough for a category as yet, but I think the above would be most helpful in at least helping out with sorting. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 22:56, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

Old West-book-stub and Old West-geo-stub
I submitted two templates at WP:AFC yesterday, Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Template:Old West-book-stub and Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Template:Old West-geo-stub, but was told to submit them here. I think they qualify under the second clause for "speedy creation" as a sub-category of Category:United States history stubs (see US-hist-book-stub). The vast majority of articles in Category:American Old West stubs are currently either books or historical locations. 72.74.206.120 (talk) 10:50, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
 * The geo stub cat would not be a good idea and given the fact that the parent only contains 47 articles I would have to say no to the book stub as well. Waacstats (talk) 21:31, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I agree. Certainly geo-stubs only use current locations, so they should be in whichever state or subdivision of state that is appropriate, with any "Old West-stub" (how did it slip through with a non-standard name?) as a secondary stub type. In any case "the vast majority" is of a very small category. Soince the standard size of thinking about splitting a category into subtypes is around 800 stubs, there's no point whatsoever at present of even considering other templates - and when we do, they should be at names in line with the naming conventions for stub templates. Grutness...<small style="color:#008822;">wha?  22:33, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Agreed with Big G. Aelfthrytha (talk) 02:43, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
 * "Big G"??? :) Grutness...<small style="color:#008822;">wha?  05:55, 16 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Oppose. Neither type is well defined. Pegship (talk) 23:49, 8 March 2016 (UTC)

Sri Lanka geo
This may be a two-stage process including "superspeedying" at the first stage... is waaay oversized (2200 stubs)... but that's because several of the provinces do not yet have their own subcategories. I propose: The second stage, then, obviously, would be to find subcategories for Central Province. It's divided into three districts, which are each divided into an average of a dozen divisional secretariats. It seems very likely that the three districts at least should each have their own template (and probably category. That would mean creating: Grutness...<small style="color:#008822;">wha?  21:55, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
 * (75 stubs)
 * (75 stubs), and (wait for it...)
 * (1700 stubs!)
 * KandyDistrict-geo-stub / *
 * MataleDistrict-geo-stub / *
 * NuwaraEliyaDistrict-geo-stub / *
 * (*assuming 60+ stubs)
 * Support all. a.) it's not a bad idea, and b.) I think I may be responsible for some of that... -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 22:35, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

Update - I've done the first part, but it looks like very few of the stubs for CentralLK have details of which district they're in... Grutness...<small style="color:#008822;">wha?  23:01, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

Cycling venue stubs
Propose speedy as cycling-venue-stub ended up with over 80 articles. SeveroTC 20:29, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Speedy support, looks good. Waacstats (talk) 21:31, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Support -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 22:16, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

Afghanistan-geo-stub categories
Parent category is currently at 939.

Propose breaking off into separate categories to get the parent down to about 525:

Farah-geo-stub - 139 Faryab-geo-stub - 112 Ghazni-geo-stub - 101 Samangan-geo-stub - 63

Aelfthrytha (talk) 19:52, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Assuming cats at Foo Province geography stubs then support, and nice to see another old face coming back. Waacstats (talk)
 * Don't support -- I can't find any stubs tagged with Foo Province, let alone enough to justify a category. Just kidding.  It's good to be back.  I was off engaged in some foolishness (getting a law degree and passing the bar). I should be around more now that those two projects are put to bed.  Aelfthrytha (talk) 23:24, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Support -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 22:16, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
 * So why were you passing the bar? Methinks the best idea would be to go inside, instead...
 * Sorry.-- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 14:55, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
 * The first thing most of us did after taking the bar was go to the bar. :) Aelfthrytha (talk) 23:16, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Add that to the list of reasons I don't think I want to go to law school... -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 21:23, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Support from me too. Good to see you Æ! Grutness...<small style="color:#008822;">wha?  01:54, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

More television stubs
SeveroTC 12:55, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Colombia-tv-stub ~37
 * & Australia-tv-prog-stub ~335
 * tv-term-stub ~30 (permcat: )
 * Support -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 22:17, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

Sport stubs by country
Propose the following templates/categories: Some of the categories are a little small but they have the sub-cats to bulk the numbers. I would appreciate if someone could have a second check to see if I missed any obvious sub-cats/existing upmergeable templates.

The following are also now viable for de-upmerging. SeveroTC 12:49, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
 * 66
 * 63


 * Someones beaten me to my next big area to look at! I may be wrong as I haven't checked all the numbers but I think the upmerged templates can probably be turned into full categories once you add in those in the foo-sport-venue-stub template and the fooian sportspeople stubs categories. Iwouls say support all of the above and the extra categories following the pattern if they reach desired levels. Waacstats (talk) 16:09, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I don't know if you looked at doing a British cat, but may be worth it, given that we have England and Scotland cats and the people, footyclubs and sports venues as stub cats. Waacstats (talk) 16:14, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
 * My proposal wasn't so comprehensive - I stumbled across this earlier when I tried Spain-sport-stub but it didn't work and just picked out national parent cats over 400-ish without sport cats. A British cat would work. SeveroTC 18:30, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Support all. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 22:18, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Supporet - looks like a clear speedy to me. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 04:22, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

Category:Black metal album stubs//Template:black-metal-album-stub
When handling Stub types for deletion/Log/2011/January/27, I discocvered that all types of albums except this one have their own stub categories. There are 2 decade categories for this album type (Category:2000s black metal album stubs and Category:1990s black metal album stubs), and this list has around 200 other stubs for this category. Among others, it should pick up all the pages tagged with 2010s-black-metal-album-stub. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 09:21, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Looks speediable to me. Waacstats (talk) 15:56, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Support -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 22:18, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

USSR-mil-ship-stub template
There are quite a few Soviet ships in Category:Naval ship stubs, and the X-mil-ship-stub format is well established for 12 other nations (including Finland-!). Propose for speedy creation (S2). Would sort in Category:European naval ship stubs, most likely. -- The Bushranger One ping only 03:19, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Support, even speedy based on precedant. Waacstats (talk) 15:57, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Support -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 22:19, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

Software-dev-stub template
Upmerge template for. Some articles belonging in software development are misclassified in, a more specific category, and I can't fix them now without losing specificity. (Main category is .) --Pnm (talk) 21:14, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
 * good idea, just not sure about whether to go with -dev- or -development-, dev could have other meanings. Waacstats (talk) 15:59, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Support either suffix...perhaps "development" would be better. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 22:20, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Needs clarification. I'm a computer programmer, and I'm even having trouble working out the fine line between software-dev-stub, compu-prog-stub, and software-eng-stub.  OK, maybe software engineering is more of the higher-level concepts.  But where do we draw a line between computer programming and software development?  Please define how this new template would be used, and how its use would be distinctly different than compu-prog-stub. Dawynn (talk) 15:22, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Add programming-software-stub to the list of fairly similar categories. Although this one is specific to software used in programming. (But libraries are covered under compu-library-stub)  Dawynn (talk) 11:48, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
 * The hierarchy is like this:
 * Software development — the business or organizational activity of developing sofware
 * Software engineering — architecting, designing, implementing, testing, and modifying software
 * Computer programming — writing and debugging source code
 * Examples:
 * About box, Bus factor, Compile farm, Custom software development, Daily build, Point release
 * Archetype pattern, Code coverage, Coding by exception, Connection broker, Desktop metaphor, Inheritance (object-oriented programming), Model–View–Controller, Test case
 * Brace notation, Hello world program, Initialization (programming), Late binding, Method stub, Object copy, Taint checking
 * In some individual cases the distinction may fall apart. Articles can go in more than one if it's really necessary. When specific subcategories are created, placement becomes more clear. I'm trying to fill out the bottom of the hierarchy so articles like Bus factor, Custom software development, and Point release can accurately be placed. They aren't part of software engineering. --Pnm (talk) 23:51, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

GUI-stub template
Upmerge template for overpopulated. List of 25 articles ready to go. (Main category is .) --Pnm (talk) 21:14, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Support template, hopefully it will grow and cut down this long overpopulated category. Waacstats (talk) 16:00, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Support -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 22:20, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Needs clarification -- first consider how many of said articles would talk about a part of the user's Desktop Environment. Such articles could then be sorted into . Dawynn (talk) 15:29, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
 * should be for articles related to desktop environments, which is software like the Windows shell, Aqua, GNOME, and KDE. It's a type of software, not a subtopic of graphical user interfaces. Articles like Adjustment handles, Affective design, Clickable, and Flip page are used in all kinds of software, so I'd put them in GUI stubs. Articles like At Ease and Desktop customization belong in . Articles like Active window and Dock (computing) about the user interface of desktop environments legitimately overlap, so I'd include both stub templates. --Pnm (talk) 00:09, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Support. Yes, after trying to sift the  myself, I can definitely see a use for this template now.  Dawynn (talk) 14:35, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

File-format-stub template
Upmerge template for overpopulated. --Pnm (talk) 21:14, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
 * another good idea for a template that will hopefully help to cut down its overpopulated parent. Waacstats (talk) 16:01, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Support -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 22:20, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Tentative support -- I would start by adding such articles to . Although there may be some use in subcategorizing out the file formats, this category was where I was dumping file formats when I was sorting these guys in the past. Dawynn (talk) 15:26, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I don't mind if this is an upmerge template for instead of . However I don't feel quite right saying Archive file is "an article related to a type of software." The difference between software and a file format is obscure to some readers, and this inaccuracy would further confuse them.  --Pnm (talk) 00:20, 19 February 2011 (UTC)

A large topic with a somewhat active WikiProject. Has a subcategory and related category. From a Cat Scan search I'd estimate at least 100 articles could immediately be placed here. --Pnm (talk) 21:14, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
 * fed by Computer-security-stub ? support. Waacstats (talk) 16:02, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Support -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 22:20, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

I've been resorting a bunch - Tunisia-politician-stub is now ready for a category. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 20:24, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
 * And given that the country is in the process of getting itself a whole new bunch of politicians, it's likely to expand soon... support. Grutness...<small style="color:#008822;">wha?  21:46, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

Will pick up asia-hotel-struct-stub. 113 articles. Dawynn (talk) 14:00, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Support. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 14:44, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

NorthernIreland-castle-stub
There are five articles currently placed in. Each of these is placed there via category tags, not stub templates, and each is a Northern Ireland castle. Please approve this template so that the articles can be properly tagged. Template is to be double-upmerged to and. Dawynn (talk) 23:37, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Support template. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 03:02, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Support, logical S a g a C i t y (talk) 10:08, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

Surprisingly, very few of these are broken down by country. Now, the category isn't exactly oversized yet, but I think it could still stand work. So here's what I suggest: creation of all the following that don't exist yet.


 * Albania-sculptor-stub
 * Austria-sculptor-stub
 * Azerbaijan-sculptor-stub
 * Belarus-sculptor-stub
 * Belgium-sculptor-stub
 * BosniaHerzegovina-sculptor-stub
 * Bulgaria-sculptor-stub
 * Croatia-sculptor-stub
 * Cyprus-sculptor-stub
 * CzechRepublic-sculptor-stub
 * Denmark-sculptor-stub
 * Estonia-sculptor-stub
 * Finland-sculptor-stub
 * France-sculptor-stub
 * Germany-sculptor-stub
 * Greece-sculptor-stub
 * Hungary-sculptor-stub
 * Iceland-sculptor-stub


 * Ireland-sculptor-stub
 * Italy-sculptor-stub
 * Kosovo-sculptor-stub
 * Latvia-sculptor-stub
 * Lithuania-sculptor-stub
 * Luxembourg-sculptor-stub
 * RMacedonia-sculptor-stub
 * Malta-sculptor-stub
 * Moldova-sculptor-stub
 * Montenegro-sculptor-stub
 * Netherlands-sculptor-stub
 * Norway-sculptor-stub
 * Portugal-sculptor-stub
 * Romania-sculptor-stub
 * Serbia-sculptor-stub
 * Slovakia-sculptor-stub
 * Slovenia-sculptor-stub
 * Sweden-sculptor-stub
 * Switzerland-sculptor-stub
 * Turkey-sculptor-stub
 * UK-sculptor-stub

,, and all exist, as does. The latter only has seven articles, and can be happily dismantled, I think. That should pave the way for a general-use. Howsabout that? -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 15:24, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

Split of
Propose a split of this category down to the superfamily level. As before, these will only be parent categories. All tagging will remain at the family level. Dawynn (talk) 14:58, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Cerionidae-stub (4 P)
 * Placostylidae-stub (6 P)
 * Urocoptidae-stub (13 P)
 * Achatinidae-stub (9 P)
 * Ferussaciidae-stub (14 P)
 * Subulinidae-stub (41 P)
 * Chlamydephoridae-stub (5 P)
 * Haplotrematidae-stub (5 P)
 * Scolodontidae-stub (4 P)
 * Punctidae-stub (13 P)
 * Discidae-stub	(15 P)
 * Endodontidae-stub (41 P)
 * Helicodiscidae-stub (8 P)
 * Oreohelicidae-stub (6 P)
 * Gastrodontidae-stub (4 P)
 * Oxychilidae-stub (37 P)
 * Pristilomatidae-stub (13 P)
 * Trochomorphidae-stub (9 P)
 * Bradybaenidae-stub (19 P)
 * Helicodontidae-stub (6 P)
 * Pleurodontidae-stub (10 P)
 * Trissexodontidae-stub (5 P)
 * Helminthoglyptidae-stub (30 P)
 * Monadeniidae-stub (5 P)
 * Oxychilidae-stub (37 P)
 * Pristilomatidae-stub (13 P)
 * Trochomorphidae-stub (9 P)
 * Bradybaenidae-stub (19 P)
 * Helicodontidae-stub (6 P)
 * Pleurodontidae-stub (10 P)
 * Trissexodontidae-stub (5 P)
 * Helminthoglyptidae-stub (30 P)
 * Monadeniidae-stub (5 P)
 * Helicodontidae-stub (6 P)
 * Pleurodontidae-stub (10 P)
 * Trissexodontidae-stub (5 P)
 * Helminthoglyptidae-stub (30 P)
 * Monadeniidae-stub (5 P)
 * Support all. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 15:17, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

Canada-sculptor-stub
Not enough for a full category, but it would help to break down. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 18:29, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

France-rail-station-stub
A quick look at indicates that the above could be useful. I haven't counted, but eyeballing suggests that would be viable as well. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 15:50, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Support. Please, use the template.  There are quite a few of these French stations that are using a category tag instead of a template tag.  Dawynn (talk) 14:01, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

Cycling stubs
SeveroTC 21:44, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
 * / cycling-team-stub should get around 70.
 * velodrome-stub or cycling-venue-stub has over 30 articles tagged as a stub in one way or another.
 * Support -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 22:04, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

Split of
Asking that the following list of template be reviewed for potential use as upmerges to and appropriate national structure categories:


 * Albania-hotel-struct-stub
 * Austria-hotel-struct-stub
 * Belgium-hotel-struct-stub
 * Bulgaria-hotel-struct-stub
 * Croatia-hotel-struct-stub
 * CzechRepublic-hotel-struct-stub
 * Denmark-hotel-struct-stub
 * Estonia-hotel-struct-stub
 * Finland-hotel-struct-stub
 * France-hotel-struct-stub
 * Germany-hotel-struct-stub
 * Greece-hotel-struct-stub
 * Hungary-hotel-struct-stub
 * Italy-hotel-struct-stub
 * Latvia-hotel-struct-stub
 * Luxembourg-hotel-struct-stub
 * Malta-hotel-struct-stub
 * Monaco-hotel-struct-stub
 * Montenegro-hotel-struct-stub
 * Netherlands-hotel-struct-stub
 * Norway-hotel-struct-stub
 * Poland-hotel-struct-stub
 * Portugal-hotel-struct-stub
 * Ireland-hotel-struct-stub
 * Romania-hotel-struct-stub
 * Russia-hotel-struct-stub
 * Serbia-hotel-struct-stub
 * Slovakia-hotel-struct-stub
 * Slovenia-hotel-struct-stub
 * Spain-hotel-struct-stub
 * Sweden-hotel-struct-stub
 * Switzerland-hotel-struct-stub
 * Ukraine-hotel-struct-stub

I may not use all of these, but all of these have a permanent category under parent. Please review whether these templates names follow the current conventions for the listed European countries. Dawynn (talk) 21:00, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Support - as below, a cursory glance suggests that they're correct. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 21:16, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
 * FYI - I'd forgotten that this exists, if it's of any help. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 15:18, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure what you did to produce that list. Except for needing to create -struct- stubs, instead of -company- stubs, that's a helpful guide. Dawynn (talk) 16:06, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Comparing Blofeld's list to my own, Latvia, Poland, Portugal, and Ireland are all missing from the Blofeld list. Very peculiar. Dawynn (talk) 16:17, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I didn't create it - but as I recall it went through the wringer here a few months ago. Hotels aren't really my bag, not that much. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 18:44, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Dr. B also seems to use "HK" rather than "HongKong" - HK is usually only for redirects. Grutness...<small style="color:#008822;">wha?  21:23, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

Next set of television stubs
SeveroTC 16:27, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Philippines-tv-prog-stub (86)
 * & NewZealand-tv-stub (130)
 * & europe-tv-station-stub - 99 for new template, 223 for existing upmerged templates and subcat . Television station stubs is the particularly oversized one right now and only set to get bigger with a better sort.
 * Support all. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 17:50, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Support. The New Zealand one's been on my "to propose" list for a while. Grutness...<small style="color:#008822;">wha?  22:27, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

Individual state hotel template requests

 * Alabama-hotel-struct-stub
 * Alaska-hotel-struct-stub
 * Arizona-hotel-struct-stub
 * Arkansas-hotel-struct-stub
 * California-hotel-struct-stub
 * Colorado-hotel-struct-stub
 * Connecticut-hotel-struct-stub
 * WashingtonDC-hotel-struct-stub
 * Delaware-hotel-struct-stub
 * Florida-hotel-struct-stub
 * GeorgiaUS-hotel-struct-stub
 * Hawaii-hotel-struct-stub
 * Idaho-hotel-struct-stub
 * Illinois-hotel-struct-stub
 * Indiana-hotel-struct-stub
 * Iowa-hotel-struct-stub
 * Kansas-hotel-struct-stub
 * Kentucky-hotel-struct-stub
 * Louisiana-hotel-struct-stub
 * Maine-hotel-struct-stub
 * Maryland-hotel-struct-stub
 * Massachusetts-hotel-struct-stub
 * Michigan-hotel-struct-stub
 * Minnesota-hotel-struct-stub
 * Mississippi-hotel-struct-stub
 * Missouri-hotel-struct-stub
 * Montana-hotel-struct-stub
 * Nebraska-hotel-struct-stub
 * Nevada-hotel-struct-stub
 * NewHampshire-hotel-struct-stub
 * NewJersey-hotel-struct-stub
 * NewMexico-hotel-struct-stub
 * NewYork-hotel-struct-stub
 * NorthCarolina-hotel-struct-stub
 * NorthDakota-hotel-struct-stub
 * Ohio-hotel-struct-stub
 * Oklahoma-hotel-struct-stub
 * Oregon-hotel-struct-stub
 * Pennsylvania-hotel-struct-stub
 * RhodeIsland-hotel-struct-stub
 * SouthCarolina-hotel-struct-stub
 * SouthDakota-hotel-struct-stub
 * Tennessee-hotel-struct-stub
 * Texas-hotel-struct-stub
 * Utah-hotel-struct-stub
 * Vermont-hotel-struct-stub
 * Virginia-hotel-struct-stub
 * Washington-hotel-struct-stub
 * WestVirginia-hotel-struct-stub
 * Wisconsin-hotel-struct-stub
 * Wyoming-hotel-struct-stub

Asking general permission to create *-hotel-struct-stub templates for all 50 states and Washington DC, as needed. This will allow for appropriate upmerging to both the previously requested US hotel structure category, as well as individual state building and structure categories. Please review the names listed for proper naming conventions. Dawynn (talk) 14:41, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Support all - a cursory glance indicates that they're all present and correct. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 14:48, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

Request for speedy creation. Will pick up template UK-hotel-struct-stub. 84 articles. Perm cat:. Dawynn (talk) 14:21, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

Follow-up: Since we have enough in the UK alone, and I haven't even begun to search through the rest of Europe, I'd like to suggest a new parent category for the UK subcategory:, picking up the previously approved Europe-hotel-struct-stub. This will in turn be a subcategory to the existing. Dawynn (talk) 14:26, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Support both. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 14:48, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

Speedy request. Will pick up US-hotel-struct-stub with 125 articles. Perm Cat:. Dawynn (talk) 10:53, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Support speedy. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 14:47, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

A few more nudges
Another group of sport templates nudged above 60 any objections to speeding these. Waacstats (talk) 20:30, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Ukraine-figure-skating-bio-stub -
 * Norway-handball-bio-stub -
 * NewZealand-cycling-bio-stub -
 * NewZealand-swimming-bio-stub -
 * Looks like the Norwegian handball players aren't feeding right do scrap that one. Waacstats (talk) 20:34, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Support - none at all. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 21:15, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

along with the figure skater cat above this should be viable with the following two templates Ukraine-wintersport-bio-stub and Ukraine-icehockey-bio-stub. Waacstats (talk) 20:30, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Support -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 21:14, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Support. "wintersports" or "winter sports"? Grutness...<small style="color:#008822;">wha?  22:30, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I spotted that as I was creating it, it should of course have been . Waacstats (talk) 16:50, 12 February 2011 (UTC)

Haven't even looked at the US hotels, and already there are 74 articles using NorthAm-hotel-struct-stub. Several of these should really have a new tag: Canada-hotel-struct-stub. Dawynn (talk) 17:44, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Support -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 21:14, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

split of
Have manged to spot / nudge 7 templates over the 60 mark so the following are speediable any objections. Waacstats (talk) 11:20, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
 * - Hampshire-struct-stub
 * - Wiltshire-struct-stub
 * - Cumbria-struct-stub
 * - Northumberland-struct-stub
 * - Suffolk-struct-stub
 * - Essex-struct-stub
 * - Lancashire-struct-stub
 * Just adding 4 more

Waacstats (talk) 12:37, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
 * - Staffordshire-struct-stub
 * - Warwickshire-struct-stub
 * - Gloucestershire-struct-stub
 * - Surrey-struct-stub
 * Another 5

I knew I should have done these systematically because I keep loosing track of which counties I have already nominated, once these have cleared I'll go back and see what we have left. Waacstats (talk) 15:53, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
 * - Durham-struct-stub
 * - Shropshire-struct-stub
 * - TyneandWear-struct-stub
 * - Herefordshire-struct-stub
 * - Buckinghamshire-struct-stub
 * Support all - no objections here. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 16:09, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

Sweden-sportshooting-bio-stub should be able to take over 60 articles according to catscan. Waacstats (talk)
 * Support -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 05:34, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

Spain-tennis-bio-stub has been nudged above 60, any objections to a speedy. Waacstats (talk) 00:34, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Support - none here. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 05:34, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

split of
the following two categories would be viable, they may leave the other parent a little small but should tidy up the above. I don't know what it is with these two sports but I am trying to match other sports but not getting anywhere off current stubs at the moment. Waacstats (talk) 00:34, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
 * - Italy-fencing-Olympic-medalist-stub
 * - Italy-rowing-Olympic-medalist-stub
 * Support. You'll find a lot of rowing stubs - there seems to be some kind of project working specifically on them, right now.  Fencing, as I recall from newpage patrol, has been largely the work of one person. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 05:34, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
 * En Garde! Replace largely with completly.  Lugnuts  (talk) 14:50, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

Mexico-painter-stub is in use on somewhere over 60 articles - time to speedy this? -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 00:33, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I don't see why not. Waacstats (talk) 00:35, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

split of
the following two categories would be viable, they may leave the other parent a little small but should tidy up the above. Waacstats (talk) 23:17, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
 * - France-fencing-Olympic-medalist-stub
 * - France-rowing-Olympic-medalist-stub
 * Support -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 00:32, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

Catscan suggests over 250 articles that could fit in here and use US-sport-announcer-stub not sure what parents it should have though. Waacstats (talk) 22:40, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Does announcer=commentator? Grutness...<small style="color:#008822;">wha?  22:52, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I believe so. Waacstats (talk) 23:19, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Support - good idea. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 00:31, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

split of
the following two categories would be viable, they may leave the other parent a little small but should tidy up the above. I'm not sure that the first one is correctly named but it is as good as I can come up with at the moment. Waacstats (talk) 21:13, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
 * - US-yachtracing-Olympic-medalist-stub
 * - US-sportshooting-Olympic-medalist-stub
 * Support -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 21:32, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

split of
two templates have past the 60 mark any objections to speedying the categories. Waacstats (talk) 20:40, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Russia-fencing-bio-stub -
 * Austria-fencing-bio-stub -
 * Support - I don't gots a problem with it. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 21:32, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

split of
Above is starting to get large and no individual country is above 60 articles so I propose splitting out European and Asian categories with tempaltes for major countries and continent level templates for those countries with only a few athletes. Waacstats (talk) 19:06, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Support -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 19:57, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

split of
As above so below. This is starting to get large and no individual country is above 60 articles so I propose splitting out European and Asian categories with tempaltes for major countries and continent level templates for those countries with only a few athletes. Waacstats (talk) 19:06, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Support -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 19:57, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

along with USSR-Winter-Olympic-medalist-stub should easily pass 100 never mind 60. Waacstats (talk) 18:27, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Support -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 19:58, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

split of
some subcategories are getting close to where we normally split them so I suggest the following templates with categories iff we get to 60 articles
 * Turkey-footy-goalkeeper-stub -
 * Turkey-footy-defender-stub -
 * Turkey-footy-midfielder-stub -
 * Turkey-footy-forward-stub -


 * Sweden-footy-goalkeeper-stub -
 * Sweden-footy-defender-stub -
 * Sweden-footy-midfielder-stub -
 * Sweden-footy-forward-stub -


 * Belgium-footy-goalkeeper-stub -
 * Belgium-footy-defender-stub -
 * Belgium-footy-midfielder-stub -
 * Belgium-footy-forward-stub -


 * CzechRepublic-footy-goalkeeper-stub -
 * CzechRepublic-footy-defender-stub -
 * CzechRepublic-footy-midfielder-stub -
 * CzechRepublic-footy-forward-stub -


 * Slovakia-footy-goalkeeper-stub -
 * Slovakia-footy-defender-stub -
 * Slovakia-footy-midfielder-stub -
 * Slovakia-footy-forward-stub -


 * Uruguay-footy-goalkeeper-stub -
 * Uruguay-footy-defender-stub -
 * Uruguay-footy-midfielder-stub -
 * Uruguay-footy-forward-stub -

I imagine the goalkeepers won't get to 60 in most cases but the defenders and midfielders should do quite easily. Waacstats (talk) 17:59, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Support -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 19:58, 5 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Support with caveat - recent discussions at SFD suggest that "forward" is a more appropriate term than "striker'. Perhaps we'd better work that out before rushing into making those ones... Grutness...<small style="color:#008822;">wha?  22:54, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I had missed that discussion, and given that somone has already started to move the categories I have changed the above categoies to forward (I know it's not best etiquette but I'll only end up using the above list when creating them). Waacstats (talk) 00:48, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I'd recommend not creating any of the forward/striker stub tags or categories until the discussion is officially closed. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 15:08, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

Both and  are large so I propose splitting based on the American and Canadians Catgories iff we get to 60. Waacstats (talk) 17:59, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
 * - Sweden-icehockey-player-stub
 * - Sweden-icehockey-goaltender-stub
 * - Sweden-icehockey-centre-stub
 * - Sweden-icehockey-defenceman-stub
 * - Sweden-icehockey-winger-stub
 * - Russia-icehockey-player-stub
 * - Russia-icehockey-goaltender-stub
 * - Russia-icehockey-centre-stub
 * - Russia-icehockey-defenceman-stub
 * - Russia-icehockey-winger-stub
 * Support all. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 19:59, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

split of
The following templates have passed 60 and so I propose the following categories Any objections. Waacstats (talk) 17:59, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
 * US-baseball-catcher-1960s-stub -
 * US-baseball-catcher-1860s-stub -
 * Support -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 19:59, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

The following templates have passed 60 and so I propose the following categories Any objections. Waacstats (talk) 17:59, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Botswana-footy-bio-stub - </S>
 * Libya-footy-bio-stub -
 * Zimbabwe-footy-bio-stub -
 * Angola-footy-bio-stub -
 * EquatorialGuinea-footy-bio-stub -
 * Support - none here. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 19:57, 5 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Support, but... IIRC "Botswana" is used rather than "Botswanan", because of debate about whether Botswanan or Batswana is correct. May be worth checking permcats. Grutness...<small style="color:#008822;">wha?  22:56, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Another good catch there. Waacstats (talk) 09:40, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

The US-screen-actor-1990s-stub has more than 60 articles so any objections to speeding the above category. Waacstats (talk) 17:59, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Support -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 19:56, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

German and French Actors
Both and  are heading towards the oversized list so I propose the following Categories iff we have 60+ articles. Waacstats (talk) 17:59, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
 * - France-stage-actor-stub
 * - France-screen-actor-stub
 * - France-tv-actor-stub
 * - France-film-actor-stub
 * - Germany-stage-actor-stub
 * - Germany-screen-actor-stub
 * - Germany-tv-actor-stub
 * - Germany-film-actor-stub
 * Support -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 19:56, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

Women-hist-stub
Propose creating Women-hist-stub and Category:Women's history stubs as a sub-category of Category:History stubs. Some items might additionally be marked with bio-stub.

This is a stub needed for WikiProject Women's History, which has identified 580 articles so far at WP:WMNHIST. ---Shane Landrum (cliotropic) 17:07, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
 * This might be better as a wikiproject talkpage template especially as bios aren't normally marked with a hist-stub. Waacstats (talk) 18:13, 5 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Would it be more appropriate to split this into two stubs templates and related categories: women-bio-stub and Category:Women's biography stubs for biographical items, and women-hist-stub and Category:Women's history stubs for events, groups, laws, etc? If so, do I need to file a separate proposal for the biographical stubs? ---Shane Landrum (cliotropic &#124; talk &#124; contribs) 18:22, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure - we don't ordinarily create biographical stubs by gender alone. What sort of biographical items are you talking about? -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 20:00, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

Several comments -
 * 1) since we already have fem-stub for articles relating to feminism, perhaps fem-history-stub would be better? I realise the two topics are not identical, but there would be considerable overlap.
 * 2) we've largely moved to using "history" rather than "hist", though hist would still be suitable for a redirect.
 * 3) I'm not really in favour of a separate woman-bio-stub using that name, since it's likely that many editors will misiterpret it to mean "biographies of women". A fem-bio-stub, for people associated with feminist studies or historically with women's causes would be approriate, though. Grutness...<small style="color:#008822;">wha?  23:02, 5 February 2011 (UTC)


 * I don't know what the procedure is here, but just noting that I'd like to see this stub be created. It would be good to be able to identify articles about female historical figures, whether bios or not, that need to be expanded. They won't all be connected to feminism; in fact, most won't be.


 * The idea for the Wikiproject Women's History arose out of the recent efforts to increase women's participation and visibility on Wikipedia, so it would help to have a stub tag to encourage article creation and expansion. SlimVirgin  TALK |  CONTRIBS 07:02, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm just concerned that some editors might assume women-bio-stub would be used for all biographical articles about women. There'd have to be pretty stringent wording of both the template and category, and regular checks (similar to the way that WP:Judaism try to make sure that Jewish-bio-stub is used for people notable for their connection to Judaism rather than simply people who follow the Jewish faith). Grutness...<small style="color:#008822;">wha?  21:30, 9 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Reiterating request. This proposal was made in the early days of the Women's History project, and some of these issues have been discussed there. One of our obstacles at first was the tendency for eager editors to plaster every bio of a woman with the WH project banner, including BLPs of pop stars. We now have criteria to control that. The stub template, of course, is different, since it's independent of the project per se, while useful to it. The stub template in my view is not meant for biographies, but to facilitate the development of topics within women's history. Several needed articles have been mentioned at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Women's History that could be begun as stubs. I ended up here today because I needed a stub template for Movement for the Ordination of Women that placed it within the field of women's history as well as Anglican church history. I'd like to start a stub for Ladies' aid societies, for instance. That said, there are a number of historically significant but lesser known women who are notable enough for articles, and whose articles might benefit from a debut as a stub that marks the topic as of interest to women's history. So I don't know what to do about that. But I would like to see a Women's History stub template become available. Cynwolfe (talk) 19:46, 27 July 2011 (UTC)


 * I think that the original requested wording was correct with the change to expanding hist to history. Women-history-stub and Category:Women's history stubs as a sub-category of Category:History stubs. Category:History stubs would be the top level category for these articles the same way that it is the top level category for stubs about Military history (which also contains biographies.) I would like to see this happen soon since the Women's History Project is working on locating existing articles and doing assessments. FloNight&#9829;&#9829;&#9829;&#9829; 19:55, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

Life-peer-stub
Propose creating Life-peer-stub, and Category:Life peer stubs as a sub-category of Category:Life peers and Category:Peerage of the United Kingdom baron stubs.

This stub type would currently include 398 articles. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs)
 * WikiProject Peerage and Baronetage has been notified. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 15:37, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Support -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 17:05, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Support looks good to me. Waacstats (talk) 18:04, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment That's a bad sign for our general coverage. Life peers should be notable when created, and 398 is a significant proportion of them. But I suppose we need the cat. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 18:40, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes, a lot more work is needed to expand the articles. But having a stub category will help us to locate the articles which are in need of expansion. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 20:10, 5 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Support. Kittybrewster  &#9742;  21:12, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

More hotel requests
I've thought a bit more about this, and would like to make a few more hotel-related requests. Dawynn (talk) 11:07, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
 * 1) US-hotel-struct-stub.  They had their own company article, I'm guessing a good many were really structures.
 * 2) UK-hotel-struct-stub.  I remember personally tagging several building articles from London and other parts of the UK.
 * 3) hotel-struct-stub.  I thought this was unnecessary, but then I found this article: Space Islands
 * 4) SouthAm-hotel-company-stub.  Missing from the company collection.
 * 5) NorthAm-hotel-company-stub.  Because the US is not the only country in North America.
 * Support...you mean we're not? EVERYTHING I KNOW IS WRONG! -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 17:05, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

post tidy up
The following two templates aare oversized and could do with the matching categories. any objections to speedy. Waacstats (talk) 08:33, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Boyacá-geo-stub -
 * Cundinamarca-geo-stub -
 * Support - none here. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 17:05, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

Differentiation for hotels
After sifting through the various and the associated subcategories, I would like to suggest new templates and potential category. Notice that the existing templates and categories all carry company in the name. However, a quick perusal of the categories shows that this is abused, which a large share of the articles talking only about one particular structure.

While companies may be international, structures are specific to a particular location. So, I don't see up front a need for a general-level hotel structure template. I would like to suggest the following: I would guess that there would be enough to create a category, so I will go ahead and request. Additional categories will be requested as the need arises. Main category here is.
 * Africa-hotel-struct-stub
 * Asia-hotel-struct-stub
 * Europe-hotel-struct-stub
 * NorthAm-hotel-struct-stub
 * Oceania-hotel-struct-stub
 * SouthAm-hotel-struct-stub

Template and category descriptions and categorizations will all be updated to reflect this differentiation. Unfortunately, this may undersize the recently created and. That can be dealt with as the need arises. Dawynn (talk) 16:23, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Support -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 17:08, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Support. I noticed this problem while looking at the proposal for continental categories below. Makes good sense. Grutness...<small style="color:#008822;">wha?  00:28, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

One more round of templates
I have now looked at each of the articles remaining under Heterobranchia-stub. These are the rest of the families with at least 4 articles. This will pull roughly half of the family / genus / species articles out of Heterobranchia-stub. Dawynn (talk) 14:29, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Upmerge to
 * Acteonidae-stub (9 P)
 * Aplustridae-stub (5 P)
 * Clionidae-stub (4 P)
 * Upmerge to
 * Arminidae-stub (4 P)
 * Dironidae-stub (4 P)
 * Flabellinidae-stub (5 P)
 * Onchidorididae-stub (4 P)
 * Phyllidiidae-stub (9 P)
 * Upmerge to
 * Chilinidae-stub (4 P)
 * Glacidorbidae-stub (5 P)
 * Upmerge to
 * Ariophantidae-stub (6 P)
 * Cerionidae-stub (4 P)
 * Chlamydephoridae-stub (5 P)
 * Diapheridae-stub (4 P)
 * Gastrodontidae-stub (4 P)
 * Haplotrematidae-stub (5 P)
 * Helicodiscidae-stub (8 P)
 * Helicodontidae-stub (6 P)
 * Megomphicidae-stub (5 P)
 * Milacidae-stub (4 P)
 * Monadeniidae-stub (5 P)
 * Philomycidae-stub (5 P)
 * Pleurodontidae-stub (10 P)
 * Scolodontidae-stub (4 P)
 * Trigonochlamydidae-stub (5 P)
 * Trissexodontidae-stub (5 P)
 * Upmerge to
 * Orculidae-stub (9 P)
 * Strobilopsidae-stub (4 P)
 * Upmerge to
 * Veronicellidae-stub (12 P)
 * Support. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 15:51, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

Split of
Proposing two continental splits of this category: Please note that I have not finished diffusing hotel-company-stub, but have seen at least three articles for European hotels that are not supported yet by individual country templates. Dawynn (talk) 17:01, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
 * . Main template: asia-hotel-company-stub.  Will also have the following upmerge templates for a total of 100 articles:
 * Afghanistan-hotel-company-stub
 * Bhutan-hotel-company-stub
 * Burma-hotel-company-stub
 * Cambodia-hotel-company-stub
 * Indonesia-hotel-company-stub
 * Israel-hotel-company-stub
 * Laos-hotel-company-stub
 * Lebanon-hotel-company-stub
 * Mongolia-hotel-company-stub
 * Nepal-hotel-company-stub
 * Oman-hotel-company-stub
 * Palestine-hotel-company-stub
 * Philippines-hotel-company-stub
 * Qatar-hotel-company-stub
 * SaudiArabia-hotel-company-stub
 * Singapore-hotel-company-stub
 * Syria-hotel-company-stub
 * Tajikistan-hotel-company-stub
 * Thailand-hotel-company-stub
 * Vietnam-hotel-company-stub
 * Yemen-hotel-company-stub
 * . Also create: europe-hotel-company-stub.  Will also pick up the following upmerges for a total of 57 existing articles:
 * Albania-hotel-company-stub
 * England-hotel-company-stub
 * France-hotel-company-stub
 * Germany-hotel-company-stub
 * Italy-hotel-company-stub
 * Norway-hotel-company-stub
 * Slovenia-hotel-company-stub
 * Spain-hotel-company-stub
 * UK-hotel-company-stub
 * Wales-hotel-company-stub
 * Support -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 17:11, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Support, though i must say i'm surprised we have separate UK, Wales and England stubs (but no Scotland), when there aren't enough from the UK as a whole for a separate category! Grutness...<small style="color:#008822;">wha?  22:47, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

Television stubs
Following sorting, the following are now speediably viable: SeveroTC 11:45, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
 * (83)
 * (98) plus new upmerged sweden-tv-prog-stub (57)
 * (61)
 * (60)
 * Romania-tv-stub (37)
 * Support speedy. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 15:01, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

Kiama-geo-stub
According to this article, there are five local government areas in the Illawarra region of New South Wales. There are templates for four of these in. Asking for this template to complete the set. Dawynn (talk) 13:38, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Support -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 15:23, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

Flag stubs
Not yet overloaded (approaching 500 stubs), but there's significant undersorting, with flags simply being marked with a country-stub but not flag-stub. The following upmerged templates may prove useful:
 * US-flag-stub (at least 35 stubs)
 * Canada-flag-stub (at least 35 stubs)
 * Russia-flag-stub (at least 45 stubs)

Also, though we're steering away from continent-wide templates, splitting flags by continent may be a useful first step - so continent/region templates may be useful for the following: The top three of them should reach the 60-stub threshold for separate categories, too. Grutness...<small style="color:#008822;">wha?  23:35, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Europe-flag-stub
 * Asia-flag-stub
 * Africa-flag-stub
 * Caribbean-flag-stub
 * Support - for something like flags (where there are significantly fewer articles than there are about biographical subgroups) I think continent-wide templates aren't a bad idea. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 15:23, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

New templates for
Suggest the following upmerge templates. Except for New Zealand, these can help fill the proposed. These will also eat up about a third of the articles currently tagged by opera-singer-stub. Dawynn (talk) 19:52, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Estonia-opera-singer-stub (5 P)
 * Bulgaria-opera-singer-stub (6 P)
 * Croatia-opera-singer-stub (7 P)
 * Romania-opera-singer-stub (6 P)
 * Ukraine-opera-singer-stub (5 P)
 * NewZealand-opera-singer-stub (5 P)
 * Support all. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 20:51, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Just one question -- do we typically use NZ or NewZealand in stub template names? Dawynn (talk) 17:03, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
 * NewZealand. We used to use NZ, and there are still a lot of redirects of this form (one here wouldn't be a bad idea either). Grutness...<small style="color:#008822;">wha?  22:48, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

Speedy request for this new category to pick up Araneidae-stub (68 articles). Dawynn (talk) 15:24, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Support -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 16:40, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

More templates for
Here are the templates for over 100 more articles: Between this and the previous proposals, should be down around 400 articles. Dawynn (talk) 15:20, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Upmerge to
 * Cylichnidae-stub (6 P). Main article: Cylichnidae.
 * Upmerge to
 * Aeolidiidae-stub (7 P). Main article: Aeolidiidae.
 * Glaucidae-stub (7 P). Main article: Glaucidae.
 * Goniodorididae-stub (8 P). Main article: Goniodorididae.
 * Upmerge to
 * Physidae-stub (8 P). Main article: Physidae.
 * Siphonariidae-stub (7 P). Main article: Siphonariidae.
 * Upmerge to previously proposed
 * Caliphyllidae-stub (7 P). Main article: Caliphyllidae.
 * Upmerge to
 * Cerastidae-stub (7 P). Main article: Cerastidae.
 * Chondrinidae-stub (10 P). Main article: Chondrinidae.
 * Upmerge to
 * Acavidae-stub (11 P). Main article: Acavidae.
 * Achatinidae-stub (9 P). Main article: Achatinidae.
 * Dyakiidae-stub (7 P). Main article: Dyakiidae.
 * Oreohelicidae-stub (8 P). Main article: Oreohelicidae.
 * Punctidae-stub (13 P). Main article: Punctidae.
 * Support all -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 16:40, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

Poland-heraldry-stub has over 150 articles and is oversized so this will kill 2 birds with one stone. Waacstats (talk) 15:15, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Support -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 16:40, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I meant to propose this one when I put the template to such extensive use. My bad. SeveroTC

New parent-only category to be a subcategory to. Main article: Sacoglossa. Will pick up the following templates: So, a total of 70 articles. Dawynn (talk) 13:43, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Hermaeidae-stub (21 P).
 * Limapontiidae-stub (12 P).
 * Juliidae-stub (19 P). (New, proposed below)
 * Oxynoidae-stub (8 P). (New, proposed below)
 * Placobranchidae-stub (10 P). (New, proposed below)
 * Support - parent away. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 14:34, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

Templates for
The following new family-level templates will pull over 200 articles out of template Heterobranchia-stub. For many of these, this will also allow these articles to upmerge into the lower level parent-only subcategories.

Dawynn (talk) 13:43, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Upmerge to
 * Aglajidae-stub (10 P). Main: Aglajidae.
 * Valvatidae-stub (14 P). Main: Valvatidae.
 * Upmerge to
 * Juliidae-stub (19 P). Main: Juliidae.
 * Oxynoidae-stub (8 P). Main: Oxynoidae.
 * Placobranchidae-stub (10 P). Main: Placobranchidae.
 * Upmerge to
 * Cochlicopidae-stub (13 P). Main: Cochlicopidae.
 * Pyramidulidae-stub (8 P). Main: Pyramidulidae.
 * Valloniidae-stub (18 P). Main: Valloniidae.
 * Upmerge to
 * Agriolimacidae-stub (9 P). Main: Agriolimacidae.
 * Discidae-stub (15 P). Main: Discidae.
 * Ferussaciidae-stub (14 P). Main: Ferussaciidae.
 * Placostylidae-stub (6 P). Main: Placostylidae.
 * Pristilomatidae-stub (13 P). Main: Pristilomatidae.
 * Strophocheilidae-stub (15 P). Main: Strophocheilidae.
 * Trochomorphidae-stub (9 P). Main: Trochomorphidae.
 * Urocoptidae-stub (13 P). Main: Urocoptidae.
 * Vitrinidae-stub (14 P). Main: Vitrinidae.
 * Upmerge to
 * Tergipedidae-stub (6 P). Main: Tergipedidae.
 * Support all. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 14:34, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

Category:European opera singer stubs
With several potewntial upmerge stub tags we certainly have more than 60 for this category (looking at the first 3 European entries on this list, I already reached 60), so I think that we should have this. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 06:20, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Support Dawynn (talk)
 * Bravo, bravo, in verità! (That's a support, that is.) -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 14:36, 1 February 2011 (UTC)