Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Proposals/Archive/2011/May

Proposals, May 2011
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Rename -->
Back in December this cat was created, along with a correctly formed Oregon-org-stub template; I can only speculate that someone was hitting the egg nog when naming the category. Rename to. Pegship (talk) 00:00, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Usually handled through SFD< but with such an obvious one I don't see any reason why it shouldn't bee speedied....hey....Pegship! Welcome back! Grutness...wha?  01:03, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Oops. Been too long; I forgot the procedure. Good to see you too, G. :P Pegship (talk) 03:40, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Welcome back Pegship, nice to see you again. I'm sure this was suggested here and it was mentioned that the category should be at organization so support
 * Support with all the rest. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 16:22, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Moved to sfr as advised. Pegship (talk) 02:45, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

further split of
This is still close to 600 while further tidying should get this down a bit the following should help Categories only if the templates do pass the 60 mark. Waacstats (talk) 13:04, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Canada-RC-bishop-stub -
 * Spain-RC-bishop-stub -
 * Poland-RC-bishop-stub -
 * Support all. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 14:21, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

Breakdown of
Numbers provided here were provided by Catscan, crossing the permcats with sphingidae-stub. Dawynn (talk) 12:33, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
 * / Macroglossinae-stub
 * 927 articles total, but the following break this down further:
 * / Dilophonotini-stub (197 P)
 * / Macroglossini-stub
 * 704 articles total. The following genus categories break this down further:
 * / Macroglossum-stub (112 P)
 * / Theretra-stub (64 P)
 * / Xylophanes-stub (109 P)
 * Philampelini-stub (26 P)
 * / Smerinthinae-stub (467 P)
 * / Sphinginae-stub (316 P)
 * Everything seems to be in order so support. Waacstats (talk) 13:00, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Support all. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 14:21, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

Mauritius-footy-bio-stub has passed the 60 mark, speedy create the category? Waacstats (talk) 07:57, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Support speedy. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 14:20, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

split of
Oversized and with at least two ways to split based on other precedants I'll offer both up and see which we prefer. Either a split by dob or by party with the following parties being viable; Bloc Québécois, Conservative Party of Canada (1867–1942), Liberal Party of Canada, Progressive Conservative Party of Canada guessing at Discuss! Waacstats (talk) 10:22, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Quebec-MP-1940s-stub - etc
 * BlocQuébécois-MP-stub -
 * Conservative18671942-Quebec-MP-stub -
 * Liberal-Quebec-MP-stub -
 * ProgressiveConservative-Quebec-MP-stub -.
 * My own tendency would be to support the second one. I think by-party stubbing tends to make more sense due to the manner in which it winnows down the number of stubs available. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 14:20, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

I am proposing a speedy creation stub (if that's how you phrase it) for Australian ports, docks and marinas. It fits because it is nationwide and... yeah, see S2. This stub can fit under so many like Akuna Bay, New South Wales, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bundaberg_Port, rowra Waters, New South Wales]], Challenger Harbour, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fremantle_Fishing_Boat_Harbour, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillarys_Boat_Harbour, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nelson_Bay,_New_South_Wales, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two_Rocks,_Western_Australia and most of them under http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ports_in_Australia. Please create.
 * Oppose. This isn't a speedy, because there aren't 60 stubs for it. There aren't 60 articles in the parent permcat - for the very good reason that there is no permcat (which makes the creation of a stub type questionable in itself). In any case, the articles are almost certainly better sorted by their respective geo types, especially since several of the ones you list cover not only the ports themselves but the towns or suburbs which surround them. Grutness...wha?  01:47, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

split of
Oversized and two templates are over the 60 mark so propose the following Speedy? Waacstats (talk) 22:37, 29 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Czechoslovakia-footy-competition-stub -
 * USSR-footy-competition-stub -
 * Only problem with the USSR one is that it makes undersized. SeveroTC 11:08, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Support all except the second category - that in time. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 14:19, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Support both. But then, I personally don't have a problem with undersized parent categories, as long as the children are all properly sized.  Dawynn (talk) 13:31, 1 June 2011 (UTC)

Martinique stubs
I was quite surprised to discover that there's no Martinique-bio-stub, even though there's a need for it (and other French overseas territories are so covered); furthermore, I think we could do well to create Martinique-politician-stub, as there is a new user creating a spate of French overseas politicians stubs. Think it'll work? -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 07:36, 29 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Sounds good to me. Waacstats (talk) 08:41, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

Oversized propose the usual split categories iff they pass 60. Waacstats (talk) 10:14, 26 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Portugal-footy-goalkeeper-stub -
 * Portugal-footy-defender-stub -
 * Portugal-footy-midfielder-stub -
 * Portugal-footy-forward-stub -
 * Support. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 13:33, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

/ Micronoctuidae-stub
Permcat:. Catscan shows 261 articles. Dawynn (talk) 18:08, 25 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Support. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 13:34, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

Monument-stub?
While it is true that doesn't yet need splitting (and has quite a number of sculptor articles in it which shouldn't be there, I think a separate stub for monuments and memorials would be useful and would almost certainly get to the threshold for a separate category . A quick coulty shows that over 450 of the current sculpture stubs have either the word "monument" or "memorial" as part of their name, and it's likely that many others in the category would qualify for this proposed stub type. Grutness...wha?  01:48, 25 May 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm not 100% convinced by the template name, the reason being that in the Netherlands the equivalent of a graded property or NRHP is called a reiksmonument often shortened to monument so things could get confusing. I dont think memorial-stub would be much better either and putting both in there would be unecessarily large template name. Waacstats (talk) 09:21, 26 May 2011 (UTC)
 * What about creating a stub tag for the latter titled Rijksmonument-stub? (Apologies if I've got the spelling wrong).  I think a monument stub tag would be a great help, yes. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 13:35, 26 May 2011 (UTC)
 * I was just pointing out that linking monuments to sculptures would be problematic. A Reiksmonument-stub would be the dutch equivalent of NRHP-stub, may be a Sculpture-monument-stub would be better.Waacstats (talk) 23:12, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Given the name of the opermcat, perhaps two separate templates: Sculpture-monument-stub and Memorial-stub? Grutness...wha?  00:47, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

New moth templates and categories
To help break down moth-stub: Dawynn (talk) 19:06, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
 * / Alucitoidea-stub. Perm.
 * 70 articles from moth-stub.
 * / Geometroidea-stub. Perm.
 * 18 articles from moth-stub.
 * / Hepialoidea-stub. Perm.
 * 16 articles from moth-stub.
 * / Lasiocampoidea-stub. Perm.
 * 10 articles from moth-stub.
 * Eriocranioidea-stub. Perm.
 * Neopseustidae-stub. Perm.
 * Tischerioidea-stub. Perm.
 * Eriocranioidea-stub. Perm.
 * Neopseustidae-stub. Perm.
 * Tischerioidea-stub. Perm.
 * Support all. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 13:36, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

Speedy requests for moth categories
Dawynn (talk) 18:14, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
 * . Picks up Incurvarioidea-stub (143 P).  Perm.
 * . Picks up Copromorphoidea-stub (68 P).  Perm.
 * Support. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 13:35, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

Trinidad-footy-bio-stub has passed the 60 mark, speedy? Waacstats (talk) 10:05, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Support speedy. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 16:07, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Created at to fit rest of related cats. Waacstats (talk) 09:24, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

Jordan-footy-competition-stub could certainly could take over 60 articles. Waacstats (talk) 21:09, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Support speedy. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 16:06, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

The various templates that would populate this total 60 articles, anyone fancy speedying. Waacstats (talk) 20:52, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Support speedy. Dawynn (talk) 18:32, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Support speedy. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 16:05, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

mess; split?
The template for the stub (Template:RichmondVA-geo-stub), when compared to the category it links to, has resulted in a geographically inaccurate goof. Richmond, Virginia refers to an the independent capital city in the central part of the state, whereas Richmond County, Virginia is an unrelated rural county located a good distance away (see the leads of both articles for more to back that up). Thus the template used refers to the city, whereas the category refers to the county, and the articles marked with it are a jumbled mess of both. Please advise! Morgan Riley (talk) 22:01, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Those related to Richmond city should use RichmondCityVA-geo-stub so the template needs ammending and the articles relating to the city need moving. Waacstats (talk) 19:59, 20 May 2011 (UTC)

Speedy request. To pick up Gradiška-geo-stub (60 P). Main article: Gradiška. Perm cats: and. As you can see from the article, both Bosanska Gradiška and Gradiška seem to be accepted. Using Bosanska Gradiška for parallelism with the permcat. Dawynn (talk) 17:49, 16 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Support speedy. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 15:16, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

Speedy request. To pick up ethology-stub. 68 articles. Dawynn (talk) 18:17, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

split
The Frech rail station category is grossly undersorted. Catscan indicates that the better share of actually belongs here. A simple conservative catscan size-based search through shows over 900 articles that can be placed here. In order to reduce time spent on extra tagging, I'm asking that templates be made available for each of the regional subcategories found in. I propose the following templates. The categories are also being reserved here, but will only be built if they can be properly filled:


 * Alsace-railstation-stub /
 * Aquitaine-railstation-stub /
 * Auvergne-railstation-stub /
 * Brittany-railstation-stub /
 * Burgundy-railstation-stub /
 * Centre-railstation-stub /
 * Champagne-railstation-stub /
 * Corsica-railstation-stub /
 * Franche-railstation-stub /
 * IledeFrance-railstation-stub /
 * Languedoc-railstation-stub /
 * Limousin-railstation-stub /
 * Lorraine-railstation-stub /
 * LowerNormandy-railstation-stub /
 * Pyrenees-railstation-stub /
 * NordPasdeCalais-railstation-stub /
 * PaysLoire-railstation-stub /
 * Picardy-railstation-stub /
 * Poitou-railstation-stub /
 * Provence-railstation-stub /
 * Paris-railstation-stub /
 * RhoneAlpes-railstation-stub /
 * UpperNormandy-railstation-stub /

Dawynn (talk) 15:31, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Support all. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 15:50, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

Country-level restaurant templates
As mentioned in a recent discussion at WT:WSS, there are currently only a handful of countries with their own restaurant-stub subtypes. I think we at the very least need to add a few of the major ones. The following would each be used on more than half a dozen stubs:
 * Australia-restaurant-stub
 * Belgium-restaurant-stub
 * PRChina-restaurant-stub
 * Germany-restaurant-stub
 * India-restaurant-stub
 * Ireland-restaurant-stub
 * Italy-restaurant-stub
 * Japan-restaurant-stub

A generic Europe-restaurant-stub might be useful as well, since there are a large number of countries in Europe with three or four stubs. Grutness...wha?  01:10, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Support all. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 15:49, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

Country-level European rail stations
Propose two new category / template sets:
 * / France-railstation-stub. Catscan indicates 61 articles to be pulled from  and.
 * / Finland-railstation-stub. Catscan indicates 38 articles can be pulled from  and, but potential 74 articles based on size.

As always, will build template first, and only build category if enough articles can be found. Dawynn (talk) 18:50, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Support. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 15:48, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

Speedy request for this new parent-only category.

To be parent for:
 * Caribbean-struct-stub
 * Other Caribbean country-level structure templates.
 * Caribbean-struct-stub
 * Other Caribbean country-level structure templates.
 * Caribbean-struct-stub
 * Other Caribbean country-level structure templates.

Also, would be parent for:

We have categories for all the other continents, but NA is strangely missing. Dawynn (talk) 14:18, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Support parent. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 15:09, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

Permcat:. Proposing this parent to house: Dawynn (talk) 17:58, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
 * animal-anatomy-stub. Newly built template, still populating.
 * . (57 P)
 * Cnidarian-anatomy-stub. (1 P)


 * animal-anatomy-stub now tagged on 111 articles. Bump this proposal to speedy. Dawynn (talk) 18:28, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Looks good to me. SeveroTC 18:29, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Support. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 15:09, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

This is a second stub proposal for this title to the existing one in wikipedia. I will supply the article for the new definition. From: emazoff. 15:25, 9 May 2011
 * Which articles would this template be used on? Is there a category containing them? SeveroTC 18:18, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
 * The entire has way too few articles to merit a stub type, and the article Software Lifecycle Management is an orphan. Do not create imho. Pegship (talk) 23:54, 1 June 2011 (UTC)

Propose the following:
 * mercury-planet-stub. Permcat

There is a sufficient number of stubs now. Ruslik_ Zero 16:28, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Support a template (as we already have Mars-stub and Venus-stub) - and a category iff the threshold of 60 is reached. SeveroTC 18:14, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Support. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 15:10, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

Split of
Propose the following suborder-level categories: Dawynn (talk) 14:04, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
 * / Muscicapoidea-stub. Perm .  Picks up:
 * Mimidae-stub
 * / Meliphagoidea-stub. Perm .  Picks up:
 * Maluridae-stub
 * / Meliphagoidea-stub. Perm .  Picks up:
 * Maluridae-stub
 * Maluridae-stub
 * Maluridae-stub

Additional splits: Dawynn (talk) 14:42, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
 * / Corvoidea-stub. No permcat, but see Passerine for justification and definition of this split.
 * Artamidae-stub
 * Cinclosomatidae-stub
 * Dicruridae-stub
 * Laniidae-stub
 * Malaconotidae-stub
 * Melanocharitidae-stub
 * Oriolidae-stub
 * Pachycephalidae-stub
 * Paradisaeidae-stub
 * Platysteiridae-stub
 * Rhipiduridae-stub
 * Vangidae-stub
 * Vireonidae-stub
 * / Certhioidea-stub. No permcat, but see Passerine for justification and definition of this split.
 * Polioptilidae-stub
 * Vireonidae-stub
 * / Certhioidea-stub. No permcat, but see Passerine for justification and definition of this split.
 * Polioptilidae-stub
 * Polioptilidae-stub
 * Support all. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 15:42, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

Propose new parent-only category. We already have Eastern, Western, and Southern, but this one is strangely missing. Would pick up the following categories and templates (based on United Nations geoscheme for Europe): Dawynn (talk) 19:06, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
 * (44 P)
 * (52 P)
 * Denmark-basketball-bio-stub (2 P)
 * Estonia-basketball-bio-stub (31 P)
 * Finland-basketball-bio-stub (8 P)
 * Iceland-basketball-bio-stub (9 P)
 * Ireland-basketball-bio-stub (6 P)
 * Norway-basketball-bio-stub (1 P)
 * Sweden-basketball-bio-stub (5 P)
 * UK-basketball-bio-stub (57 P)
 * Support all. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 15:41, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

Split of
Propose the following: Just the templates for now, for exploration of possible categories. Dawynn (talk) 13:43, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
 * animal-anatomy-stub. Permcat
 * animal-physiology-stub. Permcat
 * ethology-stub. Permcat
 * Support all. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 17:20, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

Split of
Propose continental-level templates and categories: Most of the 300+ articles in should be able to find a home in one of these continental categories. Only general-level articles about types of railway stations, and similar general interest articles should remain. Dawynn (talk) 11:49, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Africa-railstation-stub /.
 * No current subcategories. Build template first, category if 60 articles.
 * Asia-railstation-stub / . Parent for:
 * Europe-railstation-stub / . Parent for:
 * Ireland-railstation-stub
 * NorthAm-railstation-stub / . Parent for:
 * Oceania-railstation-stub /.
 * No current subcategories. Build template first, category if 60 articles.
 * SouthAm-railstation-stub /.
 * No current subcategories. Build template first, category if 60 articles.
 * NorthAm-railstation-stub / . Parent for:
 * Oceania-railstation-stub /.
 * No current subcategories. Build template first, category if 60 articles.
 * SouthAm-railstation-stub /.
 * No current subcategories. Build template first, category if 60 articles.
 * Oceania-railstation-stub /.
 * No current subcategories. Build template first, category if 60 articles.
 * SouthAm-railstation-stub /.
 * No current subcategories. Build template first, category if 60 articles.
 * SouthAm-railstation-stub /.
 * No current subcategories. Build template first, category if 60 articles.
 * Support all. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 17:19, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Support - and I wouldn't be surprised if there's quite a bit if undersorting here. SeveroTC 16:37, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

Split of
Looks like the following genus-level categories may be viable: Dawynn (talk) 12:54, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
 * / Apamea-stub. 73 articles.
 * / Lasionycta-stub. Appears to be near 60.  Template viable, will reserve on category until 60 articles found.
 * Support -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 14:16, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

Speedy proposal. To pick up MTR-stub. I realize that this one has been deleted before, because of reasons posted here. I'm seeing the previous deletion was because:


 * 1) Category was undersized.  Template MTR-stub is now on 84 articles.
 * 2) Category was "cryptically named".  But there is a permcat called .  And there is also a  for the parent company, which explains the name of the child category.

I realize that this will wipe out most of the. However, as has been pointed out here, many of the MTR articles have nothing to do with rapid transit. Dawynn (talk) 14:05, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Support. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 14:49, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

AtsimoAndrefana-geo-stub
Parent is finally off the oversized list but can shrink more. Propose speedy Category:Atsimo-Andrefana geography stubs. 89 stubs tagged with the template. Aelfthrytha (talk) 00:00, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Support speedy. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 14:48, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

Proposed Music Genre Stubs
There are many stubs that should be created, but aren't. Examples: Those are just some I would love to see created. Logan The Master (talk) 18:45, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Punk rock stub
 * Rock music stub
 * Grunge music stub
 * Rock 'n' Roll music stub
 * Techno music stub
 * Alternative rock stub
 * While I have no problem with most of these concepts, I would suggest some different names:
 * punkmusic-stub for Punk rock stubs. (Note: already exists)
 * rock-music-stub. Just so geologists don't take over your template.
 * grunge-music-stub. Keeping it tied to music, in case there are any questions.
 * Rock 'n' Roll-stub
 * We don't allow spaces in template names.
 * In many minds, this is synonomous with rock music, as admitted by article Rock and roll. Keeping the two separate would be a nightmare.  Especially since...
 * There is no permcat for rock and roll. Even article Rock and roll is satisfied with attaching to both  and.
 * techno-music-stub. So people don't think its an abbreviated template for.
 * alt-rock-music-stub. Helps tie to other templates like Alt-rock-album-stub, and again -- keeps the geologists away.
 * Dawynn (talk) 13:49, 25 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Only just found this - thanks to it being put at the wrong place on the page. Given that the punk one is at punkmusic-stub, the others should follow suit, surely - at rockmusic-stub, grungemusic-stub, etc... eithe that or the punk one need renaming that to punk-music-stub (probably a better idea). Will suggest it at SFD. Grutness...wha?  13:07, 5 July 2011 (UTC)