Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Proposals/Archive/2012/August



Category is currently over 700 articles, and that is before sorting alot of the recently created 2012 Olympian articles into it. Propose the following categories based on existing templates that have passed 60. Should tidy it up enough for another 4 years at least. Waacstats (talk) 07:20, 1 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Greece-waterpolo-bio-stub -
 * Hungary-waterpolo-bio-stub -
 * Italy-waterpolo-bio-stub -
 * Russia-waterpolo-bio-stub -

A few more speediable sport cats
Yes a few more templates have gone past the 60 mark that's all for today. Waacstats (talk) 19:08, 30 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Belarus-Olympic-medalist-stub requires
 * Croatia-Olympic-medalist-stub requires
 * Mexico-Olympic-medalist-stub requires
 * US-handball-bio-stub requires
 * Should be, but otherwise support all speedily --Qetuth (talk) 01:29, 1 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Well spotted! Waacstats (talk) 07:14, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

Catscan suggests that US-acrobatics-diving-stub should be able to take 60+ articles therefore template and category would be helpful. Waacstats (talk) 19:17, 30 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Missed this, but support! --Qetuth (talk) 14:39, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Created as US-acrobatics-diving-bio-stub instead (since the proposed category is a "biography" category). Dawynn (talk) 16:04, 6 January 2014 (UTC)

Another template passes 60, any objections to a category. Waacstats (talk) 14:45, 25 August 2012 (UTC)

Kyrgyzstan-footy-bio-stub has passed 60. Also the following Waacst User talk:Waacstats|talk) 09:39, 25 August 2012 (UTC)
 * - Gabon-footy-bio-stub
 * Support both - although this will take all three parents of Gabon footy bios under 60, we might need to look at that structure some time in the future. --Qetuth (talk) 01:34, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

Various templates make up a total of 60 articles anyone against a category? Waacstats (talk) 14:44, 25 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Sounds good to me --Qetuth (talk) 01:52, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

Alpine skiing
A proposal for sports categories that has nothing to do with London 2012! Alpine skiing stubs is looking a bit large (over 600) we already have templates for Italy, US and Canada but no categories, given that each template appears to have over 100 transclusions, I think it is about time for Waacstats (talk) 06:43, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Support speedy --Qetuth (talk) 11:41, 25 August 2012 (UTC)

More field hockey bio stubs
The other two nations that played during the 2012 Olympics also now warrant templates, and possibly categories (iff 60), so I propose: SeveroTC 10:24, 21 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Belgium-fieldhockey-bio-stub & (~50)
 * SouthAfrica-fieldhockey-bio-stub & (~80)
 * Again all loooks good. Waacstats (talk) 08:16, 25 August 2012 (UTC)

Europe-mosque-stub
was created out of order. I'm guessing there may be enough for a category. Since I doubt we're ready for individual country templates at this time, propose a continent-level template here. Dawynn (talk) 09:41, 21 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Upmerged templates would probably be ok for Azerbaijan, Albania, Turkey and the UK. I think that based on current tagging and small untagged articles the category should take around 150. SeveroTC 10:10, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

Polish sportspeople
SeveroTC 09:28, 20 August 2012 (UTC)
 * for Poland-rowing-bio-stub which has passed 60.
 * Poland-icehockey-bio-stub which will now take 30 articles (double upmerged to ).
 * Everything looks good to me Waacstats (talk) 06:48, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

Following the recent Olympics SouthKorea-fieldhockey-bio-stub has passed 60, category is now viable. Waacstats (talk) 17:34, 19 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Support. SeveroTC 10:31, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

shipwreck-stub
For articles about historic shipwrecks (as opposed to articles about ships that happened to be wrecked). I don't know exactly how many articles this template would apply to, but I run into them frequently. Might not be 60, though, so propose upmerge to ship-stub, which is what most of them are tagged with anyway. DoctorKubla (talk) 11:10, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Support --Qetuth (talk) 11:28, 25 August 2012 (UTC)

Comics company stubs
In sorting the stub-class comics articles into, I see the need for additional stub types and sub-categories, before the parent category gets too big. There are currently almost 700 articles with the generic Comics-stub, and I am only through the C's alphabetically in tagging stub-class comics articles. I will add more here, as other necessary stub types become apparent, but I propose the creation of: Fortdj33 (talk) 17:26, 16 August 2012 (UTC)
 * with Comics-company-stub: 233 articles that are children of . Could be even larger, if populated from as well (449 articles).
 * Support  dain   talk   21:16, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

Telephony stubs
I propose creation of telephony-stub and, the latter being a subcat of and. The telecomm stubs category is much too large and needs to be split up. According to CatScan, there are about 200 telecomm stubs that could be put into the new stub category instead. should be made a subcategory of the new stub category; its template would be unchanged.--Srleffler (talk) 05:23, 15 August 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure the distinction between telephony and telecommunications is clear enough to make this more than an arbitrary distinction to split a large category in half - looking at the telephony category tree, it seems very broad (and closer to 300 stubs when you add more depth to the search). But if we can't find a better option, maybe it'll have to do. --Qetuth (talk) 12:57, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Telecommunications is a much broader category than telephony. Telecommunications includes broadcasting, particularly radio and television. It also includes data transmission, including the Internet and wireless networking. None of these things is "telephony". Splitting off telephony will take a big chunk out of the overpopulated telecomm stub category, but it is also a sensible way to divide the topic.--Srleffler (talk) 03:30, 18 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Based upon the permcats, it looks good to me. SeveroTC 10:30, 21 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Most of these things are already split off: we have, , , , as subcats already. But point taken... --Qetuth (talk) 11:39, 25 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes, although note that the TV and radio stub categories you listed are not going to be the most appropriate sub-stubs for most things that might otherwise be in Category:Telecommunications stubs. The correct stubs would more often be tv-tech-stub and radio-comm-stub. Given that those stubs already exist, a stub for telephony seemed like the next most reasonable choice for subdividing the content. I don't see any other good options for new sub-stubs.--Srleffler (talk) 20:05, 25 August 2012 (UTC)

This proposal has been sitting for a while. I still think this makes sense, and I think I have adequately answered the concerns raised above. Could someone close this? Is it possible to have a bot change the stub tags: any page with Telecomm-stub that is in should be changed to telephony-stub. That seems like a better task for a bot than a human editor. This change provides a sensible division of content, and breaks up the overly-large telecomm-stub category.--Srleffler (talk) 02:31, 8 July 2013 (UTC)

longdistance-athletics-bio-stub /
We already have without a higher level generic category, or even template! Propose the template and category for gathering athletes from other countries. Given that we already have an American category, the generic category is needed for proper structure. I would think we should be able to fill it from the perm. Dawynn (talk) 01:19, 14 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Support --Qetuth (talk) 05:17, 15 August 2012 (UTC)
 * The history behind the American category is that it was passed 800 and the only split that seemed reasonable was by event, so we created templates for each event and split out those events that passed 60. Though I wouldn't !Vote against this,  some reasons why I would be against this split, It would almost certainly lead to oversized category, It would lead to some athletes being categorized in here but not under there country and others vice-versa leading to confusion. Waacstats (talk) 17:31, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

Further split of language stubs
Some of the subcats of have grown a little large. Propose the following sub-families:
 * Bantu-lang-stub / to take about 500/1200 out of
 * Move to be a child of this. (Swahili is part of the Bantu family)
 * Madang-lang-stub / to take about 100/700 from
 * Split of for biggest 4 families I could find, templates plus cats if 60 stubs found, upmerge otherwise:
 * Arawakan-lang-stub /  (main:)
 * Tupian-lang-stub /  (main:)
 * Macro-Jê-lang-stub /  (main:)
 * Oto-Manguean-lang-stub /  (main:)

Note that most of the top level families have initialised stub prefixes (eg nc-lang-stub for Niger-Congo stubs), but the existing subdivisions all then go to full names (eg WestChadic-lang-stub). As the four american families listed are all top level families, perhaps initials would be better for those? (mj- annd om- are obvious, not sure about the others) --Qetuth (talk) 07:54, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

Additional proposal to add to above: sign-lang-stub for the assorted sign language and manual alphabet stubs, double upmerged to. if 60 found. --Qetuth (talk) 08:08, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

Country-level transport categories and templates
The countries listed below each have a population greater than 20 Million people. All of these are missing a general transport category. Propose approval for all of the missing templates shown below. For any countries / continents where more than 60 articles can be found for these combined templates, propose also building the categories indicated below.
 * Algeria-airport-stub
 * Algeria-bridge-struct-stub‎
 * Algeria-rail-transport-stub
 * Algeria-road-stub‎
 * Angola-airport-stub
 * Angola-bridge-struct-stub‎
 * Angola-rail-transport-stub
 * Angola-road-stub‎
 * DRCongo-airport-stub
 * DRCongo-bridge-struct-stub‎
 * DRCongo-rail-transport-stub
 * DRCongo-road-stub‎
 * Egypt-airport-stub
 * Egypt-bridge-struct-stub‎
 * Egypt-rail-transport-stub
 * Egypt-road-stub‎
 * Ethiopia-airport-stub
 * Ethiopia-bridge-struct-stub‎
 * Ethiopia-rail-transport-stub
 * Ethiopia-road-stub‎
 * Ghana-airport-stub
 * Ghana-bridge-struct-stub‎
 * Ghana-rail-transport-stub
 * Ghana-road-stub‎
 * IvoryCoast-airport-stub
 * IvoryCoast-bridge-struct-stub‎
 * IvoryCoast-rail-transport-stub
 * IvoryCoast-road-stub‎
 * Kenya-airport-stub
 * Kenya-bridge-struct-stub‎
 * Kenya-rail-transport-stub
 * Kenya-road-stub‎
 * Madagascar-airport-stub
 * Madagascar-bridge-struct-stub‎
 * Madagascar-rail-transport-stub
 * Madagascar-road-stub‎
 * Morocco-airport-stub
 * Morocco-bridge-struct-stub‎
 * Morocco-rail-transport-stub
 * Morocco-road-stub‎
 * Mozambique-airport-stub
 * Mozambique-bridge-struct-stub‎
 * Mozambique-rail-transport-stub
 * Mozambique-road-stub‎
 * Nigeria-airport-stub
 * Nigeria-bridge-struct-stub‎
 * Nigeria-rail-transport-stub
 * Nigeria-road-stub‎
 * SouthAfrica-airport-stub
 * SouthAfrica-bridge-struct-stub‎
 * SouthAfrica-rail-transport-stub
 * Sudan-airport-stub
 * Sudan-bridge-struct-stub‎
 * Sudan-rail-transport-stub
 * Sudan-road-stub‎
 * Tanzania-airport-stub
 * Tanzania-bridge-struct-stub‎
 * Tanzania-rail-transport-stub
 * Tanzania-road-stub‎
 * Uganda-airport-stub
 * Uganda-bridge-struct-stub‎
 * Uganda-rail-transport-stub
 * Uganda-road-stub‎
 * Afghanistan-airport-stub
 * Afghanistan-bridge-struct-stub‎
 * Afghanistan-rail-transport-stub
 * Afghanistan-road-stub‎
 * Bangladesh-airport-stub
 * Bangladesh-bridge-struct-stub‎
 * Bangladesh-rail-transport-stub
 * Bangladesh-road-stub‎
 * Burma-airport-stub
 * Burma-bridge-struct-stub‎
 * Burma-rail-transport-stub
 * Burma-road-stub‎
 * Iraq-airport-stub
 * Iraq-bridge-struct-stub‎
 * Iraq-rail-transport-stub
 * Iraq-road-stub‎
 * Nepal-airport-stub
 * Nepal-bridge-struct-stub‎
 * Nepal-rail-transport-stub
 * Nepal-road-stub‎
 * SaudiArabia-airport-stub
 * SaudiArabia-bridge-struct-stub‎
 * SaudiArabia-rail-transport-stub
 * SaudiArabia-road-stub‎
 * Syria-airport-stub
 * Syria-bridge-struct-stub‎
 * Syria-rail-transport-stub
 * Syria-road-stub‎
 * Uzbekistan-airport-stub
 * Uzbekistan-bridge-struct-stub‎
 * Uzbekistan-rail-transport-stub
 * Uzbekistan-road-stub‎
 * Yemen-airport-stub
 * Yemen-bridge-struct-stub‎
 * Yemen-rail-transport-stub
 * Yemen-road-stub‎
 * Canada-airport-stub
 * Canada-bridge-struct-stub‎
 * Canada-rail-transport-stub
 * Mexico-airport-stub
 * Mexico-bridge-struct-stub‎
 * Mexico-rail-transport-stub
 * Australia-airport-stub
 * Australia-bridge-struct-stub‎
 * Australia-rail-transport-stub
 * Argentina-airport-stub
 * Argentina-bridge-struct-stub‎
 * Argentina-rail-transport-stub
 * Argentina-road-stub‎
 * Brazil-airport-stub
 * Brazil-bridge-struct-stub‎
 * Brazil-rail-transport-stub
 * Colombia-airport-stub
 * Colombia-bridge-struct-stub‎
 * Colombia-rail-transport-stub
 * Colombia-road-stub‎
 * Peru-airport-stub
 * Peru-bridge-struct-stub‎
 * Peru-rail-transport-stub
 * Peru-road-stub‎
 * Venezuela-airport-stub
 * Venezuela-bridge-struct-stub‎
 * Venezuela-rail-transport-stub
 * Venezuela-road-stub‎
 * Uzbekistan-bridge-struct-stub‎
 * Uzbekistan-rail-transport-stub
 * Uzbekistan-road-stub‎
 * Yemen-airport-stub
 * Yemen-bridge-struct-stub‎
 * Yemen-rail-transport-stub
 * Yemen-road-stub‎
 * Canada-airport-stub
 * Canada-bridge-struct-stub‎
 * Canada-rail-transport-stub
 * Mexico-airport-stub
 * Mexico-bridge-struct-stub‎
 * Mexico-rail-transport-stub
 * Australia-airport-stub
 * Australia-bridge-struct-stub‎
 * Australia-rail-transport-stub
 * Argentina-airport-stub
 * Argentina-bridge-struct-stub‎
 * Argentina-rail-transport-stub
 * Argentina-road-stub‎
 * Brazil-airport-stub
 * Brazil-bridge-struct-stub‎
 * Brazil-rail-transport-stub
 * Colombia-airport-stub
 * Colombia-bridge-struct-stub‎
 * Colombia-rail-transport-stub
 * Colombia-road-stub‎
 * Peru-airport-stub
 * Peru-bridge-struct-stub‎
 * Peru-rail-transport-stub
 * Peru-road-stub‎
 * Venezuela-airport-stub
 * Venezuela-bridge-struct-stub‎
 * Venezuela-rail-transport-stub
 * Venezuela-road-stub‎
 * Australia-bridge-struct-stub‎
 * Australia-rail-transport-stub
 * Argentina-airport-stub
 * Argentina-bridge-struct-stub‎
 * Argentina-rail-transport-stub
 * Argentina-road-stub‎
 * Brazil-airport-stub
 * Brazil-bridge-struct-stub‎
 * Brazil-rail-transport-stub
 * Colombia-airport-stub
 * Colombia-bridge-struct-stub‎
 * Colombia-rail-transport-stub
 * Colombia-road-stub‎
 * Peru-airport-stub
 * Peru-bridge-struct-stub‎
 * Peru-rail-transport-stub
 * Peru-road-stub‎
 * Venezuela-airport-stub
 * Venezuela-bridge-struct-stub‎
 * Venezuela-rail-transport-stub
 * Venezuela-road-stub‎
 * Colombia-rail-transport-stub
 * Colombia-road-stub‎
 * Peru-airport-stub
 * Peru-bridge-struct-stub‎
 * Peru-rail-transport-stub
 * Peru-road-stub‎
 * Venezuela-airport-stub
 * Venezuela-bridge-struct-stub‎
 * Venezuela-rail-transport-stub
 * Venezuela-road-stub‎
 * Venezuela-rail-transport-stub
 * Venezuela-road-stub‎

Dawynn (talk) 03:23, 11 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Support all of these, assuming they will each be non-empty for countries of that size (ie, no need to make a rail transport stub for a country with no rail system). The Continent ones are a great idea to standardise. --Qetuth (talk) 05:23, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

The template Latvia-athletics-bio-stub has passed 60 articles, time for a category? Waacstats (talk) 21:19, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Support speedy. Dawynn (talk) 23:31, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

Massachusetts Bay Transportation Authority stubs
I propose /MBTA-stub - we currently have 169 of these. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 13:35, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Support --Qetuth (talk) 05:28, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

Roads
Propose the following road templates. These are all the countries with a population greater than 20 Million that do not have a road template yet. Each will be first upmerged either to the appropriate or  (if available):

Double upmerge to :
 * 1) Ethiopia-road-stub
 * 2) Egypt-road-stub
 * 3) DRCongo-road-stub
 * 4) Tanzania-road-stub
 * 5) Kenya-road-stub
 * 6) Algeria-road-stub
 * 7) Uganda-road-stub
 * 8) Morocco-road-stub
 * 9) Sudan-road-stub

Double upmerge to :
 * 1) Bangladesh-road-stub
 * 2) Philippines-road-stub
 * 3) Vietnam-road-stub
 * 4) Uzbekistan-road-stub
 * 5) SaudiArabia-road-stub
 * 6) Nepal-road-stub
 * 7) Afghanistan-road-stub

Double upmerge to :
 * 1) Ukraine-road-stub

Double upmerge to : Dawynn (talk) 10:55, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
 * 1) Colombia-road-stub
 * 2) Peru-road-stub
 * 3) Venezuela-road-stub


 * Support, and speediable too. --Qetuth (talk) 02:40, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

Mines and mining
I'd like to see a Mines and mining stub. There doesn't seem to be any existing stub category remotely applicable. The closest are geology and engineering, which really aren't that close. There is a WikiProject Mining. How about Mines-mining-stub? --Bejnar (talk) 08:31, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
 * We already have . -- Red rose64 (talk) 10:52, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
 * I see that Template:Mining-stub has been around since January 2008. Funny that that stub type is not listed at WikiProject Stub sorting/Stub types which supposedly lists all stub types. Category:Stub categories is useless for looking up a stub, although I see, in retrospect, that Template:Mining-stub is listed under Category:Geology stubs and Category:Industry stubs. I do think that my proposal is a better title, but the  should work well. So how does a stub from January 2008 get listed at WikiProject Stub sorting/Stub types?  Should Mining have a co-equal status with Agriculture under Commerce? --Bejnar (talk) 22:33, 1 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Since is not listed at WikiProject Stub sorting/Stub types, does that mean that this proposal can go through anyway? Is there any objection? --Bejnar (talk) 20:24, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
 * A stub from Jan 2008 gets listed at Stub types by listing it at stub types - assuming it's well formed and has been vetted. Unfortunately, many are missing, because it's an easy thing to overlook. A quick check of what links here shows it was initially brought to deletions as unproposed, the result was that it was a useful stub idea and to fix its format, categories and scope. The category was later approved through the propoer process. I think the question then becomes do we need a second mining stub yet. I don't think so, unless there is the expectation that will grow rapidly soon due to WikiProject Mining working on creating missing articles en masse or something similar...300 is not a huge number for a stub category. --Qetuth (talk) 02:41, 4 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Added both Mining and Forestry to the stub types list under industry, which is in the technology subpage. However, I think Bejnar had a point - should be under the commerce tree and listed there in the stub types? (and possibly agriculture moved into industry) --Qetuth (talk) 02:59, 4 August 2012 (UTC)


 * It was listed at WikiProject Stub sorting/Templates to vet/L-R. Basically, adding the missing templates is a manual process.  A contributor should attempt to verify that the template was approved at some time, or post it at WikiProject Stub sorting/Discoveries.  Once it has been approved, you may add it in an appropriate place, along with any other needed structural additions to establish hierarchy. Dawynn (talk) 22:42, 5 August 2012 (UTC)