Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Proposals/Archive/2012/October



Proposals, October 2012
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Category:Romania newspaper stubs creation
I would like to create a category for the Romania-newspaper-stub template under the category Category:Romaina newspaper stub I searched and there are over 54+ articles that have that template. --Clarkcj12 (talk) 22:19, 31 October 2012 (UTC)
 * We are at 57 articles so create three more stubs and we get to 60 - the threshold for category creation :) SeveroTC 22:55, 31 October 2012 (UTC)
 * With having that many, we couldeven do it without creating  more stubs, IMO. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 05:26, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Looks like other countries use the demonym. So, propose  instead. Dawynn (talk) 12:50, 1 November 2012 (UTC)

Category:New Zealand biologist stubs
I propose creating /NewZealand-biologist-stub (the category will also catch the existing NewZealand-botanist-stub) - a quick scan finds 64 stubs for this category. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 20:59, 31 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Support --Qetuth (talk) 13:21, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

Speedy:
Combining all the templates brings us to 60+: Dawynn (talk) 14:22, 31 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Morocco-struct-stub (33 P)
 * Morocco-sports-venue-stub (33 P)
 * Morocco-mosque-stub (2 P)
 * Morocco-railstation-stub (1 P)
 * Definitely. Check if there are any other appropriate stubs here, I see you forgot Morocco-airport-stub. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 21:12, 31 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Speedy ASAP. SeveroTC 22:55, 31 October 2012 (UTC)

Subcats for Category:New Zealand people stubs
I propose the following categories: עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 07:00, 31 October 2012 (UTC)
 * for NewZealand-academic-bio-stub (317 stubs)
 * for NewZealand-botanist-stub and NewZealand-scientist-stub (156 stubs)
 * for NewZealand-business-bio-stub (209 stubs)
 * for NewZealand-mil-bio-stub (224 stubs)
 * Speedy all - I keep meaning to get back to the NZ bio stubs - great to see they aren't forgotten. --Qetuth (talk) 12:32, 31 October 2012 (UTC)

Category:Prehistoric lobe-finned fish stubs‎
I propose creating and paleo-lobefinned-fish-stub to catch these, removing them from the oversized. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 06:07, 31 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Support - indeed, the is very, very big. --Fabio Descalzi, aka Fadesga (talk) 14:44, 31 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Category created. Please, help populate it! :) --Fabio Descalzi, aka Fadesga (talk) 19:09, 1 November 2012 (UTC)

Prehistoric cartilaginous fish stubs
Hi there. I have been going through the Category:Prehistoric fish stubs and there seem to be a lot of cartilaginous fish there, as this search shows. I think it is time to create the category:Prehistoric cartilaginous fish stubs. Regards, --Fabio Descalzi, aka Fadesga (talk) 20:42, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Support, along with a double-upmerged (for now) paleo-shark-stub to catch these. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 05:53, 31 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Created also a double-upmerged (for now) paleo-rajiformes-stub. --Fabio Descalzi, aka Fadesga (talk) 19:33, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
 * And now, the category (which includes the three templates) is created. Please, help populate it! --Fabio Descalzi, aka Fadesga (talk) 21:19, 1 November 2012 (UTC)

Comic book film stubs
There are currently 168 stub articles about comic book related films. Not all of these articles are tagged, and there is no one stub tag that would cover all the articles. I propose the creation of a Comics-film-stub, which would populate either or. The category would be a child of both and. Fortdj33 (talk) 19:39, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
 * It looks fine, but I'm a bit confused as to why there isn't a permcat for this? SeveroTC 22:34, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
 * I can start tagging the appropriate articles anytime, but what permcat should the articles be placed into? Fortdj33 (talk) 00:27, 31 October 2012 (UTC)
 * It's not a requirement (although it does help), I'm just surprised that there isn't a . SeveroTC 22:58, 31 October 2012 (UTC)
 * There is already a, though I'm not sure that it is the appropriate permcat for this stub. I'm just debating whether the category associated with Comics-film-stub should be titled or . The former fits better as a sub-category of , while the latter fits better in , but the new category should probably be in both... Fortdj33 (talk) 03:04, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
 * See, which is a subcat of action films which we have a stub cat for. How many of these 168 would be covered by this, and would it be better to follow the permcats in this case? --Qetuth (talk) 12:37, 31 October 2012 (UTC)
 * There is not a stub category that covers all the stub articles in . Yes, some of them overlap, but films like Batman Fights Dracula, Iron Man: Rise of Technovore and Stamp Day for Superman have three completely different film stub tags, when all of them could be covered by Comics-film-stub. The same stub tag could also be used for films based on comics that are not about superheroes, such as 26 Years, Gundala and Skippy. Fortdj33 (talk) 14:08, 31 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I was not saying there was a stub category for superhero films - The point I was trying to make is that Superhero films is part of the tree which we already split stubs by, and so might be a better scope for a new stub category than Comics, which is part of the  tree which we never have used with stubs before. --Qetuth (talk) 13:44, 1 November 2012 (UTC)

Indian Theatre Stubs
India has rich and current tradition of theatre related activities and structures. I am proposing the following:


 * New stub: India-theatre-stub (peer of, for example, Template:US-theat-stub)
 * New Category: Category:India theatre stubs (peer of, for example, Category:United States theatre stubs)

The aim is to further expand these will state-specific stubs in the future. Thanks. -MK 16:05, 29 October 2012 (UTC)


 * India-theat-stub (as per theat-stub et al). Not sure on or, but either would require a minimum 60 articles. SeveroTC 16:39, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Support. Although current regional theatre stub cats are split 2 and 2 on the issue, I think would be better (when 60 found), to match Indian culture stubs, Indian film stubs, etc. --Qetuth (talk) 23:06, 29 October 2012 (UTC)

Mosque templates
Propose exploratory templates for any countries where the Muslim population is estimated at more than 20 million. See List of countries by Muslim population. Dawynn (talk) 10:24, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Afghanistan-mosque-stub
 * (Already exists)
 * Bangladesh-mosque-stub
 * Egypt-mosque-stub
 * Ethiopia-mosque-stub
 * India-mosque-stub
 * Indonesia-mosque-stub
 * Iran-mosque-stub
 * Iraq-mosque-stub
 * Morocco-mosque-stub
 * Nigeria-mosque-stub
 * Pakistan-mosque-stub
 * PRChina-mosque-stub
 * SaudiArabia-mosque-stub
 * Sudan-mosque-stub
 * Syria-mosque-stub
 * Turkey-mosque-stub
 * Uzbekistan-mosque-stub
 * Yemen-mosque-stub


 * Some of the numbers will be very small, but I don't see a problem with upmerged templates. However, there seem to be no articles as yet on mosques in Ethiopia. Looking at the country categories, Azerbaijan-mosque-stub and Singapore-mosque-stub may be worth adding. SeveroTC 11:25, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Support saves double-stubbing the whole category, and obvious room for future growth as coverage improves. --Qetuth (talk) 22:34, 30 October 2012 (UTC)

Sarcopterygii
Hi. I am going through the prehistoric bony fish stubs; at the same time, I look at the pages linked to the article Sarcopterygii, and there are over 400 of them. There must be a lot of stubs related to that. What about creating a Category:Sarcopterygii stubs? Regards, --Fabio Descalzi, aka Fadesga (talk) 01:01, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Scanned the Category:Lobe-finned fish and found these results. 211 articles. I think it is worth a separate stub category. Regards, --Fabio Descalzi, aka Fadesga (talk) 15:41, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Support – seems overdue to me. --Epipelagic (talk) 15:52, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Category created as Category:Lobe-finned fish stubs (by analogy with the existing Category:Ray-finned fish stubs. Corresponding stub templates available. --Fabio Descalzi, aka Fadesga (talk) 16:13, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Support, of course. I don't think you needed this discussion for that. It's not controversial, just neglected. -- O BSIDIAN  †  S OUL  00:02, 31 October 2012 (UTC)

/ brass-instrument-stub
We have full categories for String, Woodwind, Percussion, and Electronic. Propose starting with an exploratory template for Brass, category if sufficient articles found. Dawynn (talk) 10:35, 28 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Support I doubt it'll reach 60 right now, but template still useful. --Qetuth (talk) 14:18, 1 November 2012 (UTC)

Beryciformes stubs
I have been going through the Category:Fish stubs and the Category:Ray-finned fish stubs. I have seen a lot of Beryciformes. What about creating a Template:Beryciformes-stub and a Category:Beryciformes stubs? Greetings, --Fabio Descalzi, aka Fadesga (talk) 22:02, 26 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Support template, category if sufficient articles found. I approve the category name, but please hold off on building the category until 60+ articles tagged. Dawynn (talk) 13:51, 27 October 2012 (UTC)
 * I guess the moment has come to create the Category:Beryciformes stubs, as the number of stubs is already over 60. Regards, --Fabio Descalzi, aka Fadesga (talk) 00:40, 29 October 2012 (UTC)

Proposing this new parent-only category. Serves as a collection point for all of the remaining country-level categories and templates under. Also fits well under existing category. Will serve as parent for: Dawynn (talk) 10:26, 26 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Armenia-politician-stub
 * Armenia-politician-stub
 * Armenia-politician-stub

New crustacean category and templates
Propose the following: Dawynn (talk) 12:33, 24 October 2012 (UTC)
 * / maxillopoda-stub.
 * Requires resurrecting the template (currently redirected to crustacean-stub. Tagging all of the appropriate animals in the Crustacean stub category will result in 41 articles, but this category will also become a parent for.
 * ostracoda-stub.
 * For this, resurrect and rename ostracod-stub (currently redirected to crustacean-stub. Tagging all of the appropriate animals in the Crustacean stub category will result in 30 articles. Continue to upmerge this to.


 * Oppose. Not needed, and too few articles to be worthwhile, in both cases. This is a waste of time and a waste of effort. Category:Crustacean stubs is not excessively large, having only 86 articles left. This proposal would thus replace one good stub category with three bad ones. The proposal has nothing to recommend it and should be dropped immediately. --Stemonitis (talk) 14:29, 24 October 2012 (UTC)


 * While I don't mind letting the Ostracods go, refusing the creation of a Maxillopoda category leaves an odd unparallel situation. Subclass Copepoda is then presented at the same level as classes Branchiopoda and Malacostraca.  Adding a Maxillopoda category will provide a parallel set of three classes under . Dawynn (talk) 15:05, 24 October 2012 (UTC)


 * The taxonomic rank of the subcategories is entirely irrelevant; that is not the purpose of the stub category hierarchy. Stub categories are supposed to divide stubs into groups of manageable size – say, 60–600. There is absolutely no need for different stub categories to be at the same taxonomic rank. Odd and unparallel it may be, but it is far more practical, and that is what this process should be aiming towards. --Stemonitis (talk) 15:10, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

Assorted other new categories
Having trouble grouping the rest of these. Asking for speedy approval of all. Please review: Dawynn (talk) 13:12, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
 * / 1910s-drama-film-stub - 75 transclusions
 * / 1920s-Germany-film-stub - 96 transclusions
 * / 2010s-compilation-album-stub - 66 transclusions
 * / 2010s-Japan-single-stub - 66 transclusions
 * / AFL-bio-1870s-stub - 114 transclusions
 * / BerksPA-NRHP-stub - 124 transclusions
 * / BucksPA-NRHP-stub - 128 transclusions
 * / Child-lit-char-stub - 116 transclusions
 * / Cuba-baseball-pitcher-stub - 64 transclusions
 * / Flood-stub - 67 transclusions
 * / Illinois-newspaper-stub - 68 transclusions
 * / Japan-airport-stub - 80 transclusions
 * / Korea-politician-stub - 64 transclusions
 * / Namibia-school-stub - 60 transclusions
 * / Norway-politician-1770s-stub - 61 transclusions
 * / Ohio-newspaper-stub - 67 transclusions
 * / Saskatchewan-struct-stub - 64 transclusions
 * / Spain-Christian-monastery-stub - 66 transclusions
 * Speedy except I would prefer to discuss:


 * should not be speedy as Korea is not a nation. Also seems undersorted, the first few transclusions I looked at were almost all South Korean.
 * Some of the decade based categories being created leave parents or siblings drastically undersized. Is it truly helpful to split early AFL bios into 114 1870s, and 20 combined 1860s and 1850s? And the new Japanese singles category leaves the parent empty. --Qetuth (talk) 23:32, 26 October 2012 (UTC)
 * But Korea was a nation once. I would contend that this is perfectly acceptable to tag any stub articles pertaining to politicians who served in Korea prior to the current national split.
 * I'd suggest that some of the "Pre" categories have outlived their purpose, but will abide by the input of others in this matter. Do we keep and rename  to  (and  to ), or do away with them altogether, keeping the templates for upmerging to  and  categories respectively.  Do we keep  and rename it appropriately, or just move the templates to the upper parent?   Dawynn (talk) 14:19, 27 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Concerning the :
 * A parent is not "empty" if it contains filled child categories.
 * I find it really difficult to believe that the Japanese have only been writing music for less than 13 years. Seems like a search for Japanese songs recorded prior to 2000 would be helpful to fill this parent category.
 * Dawynn (talk) 16:34, 27 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Having looked through the Korean politicians, I see that most of those stubbed are Joseon dynasty politicians, so you are right there. As for the pre-categories, I can see arguments both ways. Some pre-cat contents are the forerunners/pioneers, and hence may be notable for different reasons and of interest to different editors. I would certainly argue against but not the film or AFL ones. No problem with creating any of these after further examination, but I think rename/upmerge of the aftermath should be taken case by case. --Qetuth (talk) 03:01, 28 October 2012 (UTC)

Assorted rail transport categories
Speedy proposal for these rail-related categories: Dawynn (talk) 13:02, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
 * / Jiangsu-railstation-stub - 85 transclusions
 * / Milan-metro-stub - 68 transclusions
 * / NorthKorea-railstation-stub - 65 transclusions
 * Speedy all --Qetuth (talk) 23:33, 26 October 2012 (UTC)

Assorted geography categories
Speedy proposal for the following geographical categories: Dawynn (talk) 12:58, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
 * / Allahabad-geo-stub - (86 P)
 * / Kardzhali-geo-stub - (113 P)
 * / Mangalore-geo-stub - (80 P)
 * / Santiago-geo-stub - (92 P)
 * / Semič-geo-stub - (67 P)
 * / TazaAlHoceimaTaounate-geo-stub - (70 P)

Assorted zoology categories
Speedy proposal for these animal categories: Dawynn (talk) 12:52, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
 * / Beloniformes-stub - 63 transclusions
 * / Branchiopoda-stub - 71 transclusions
 * / Malacostraca-stub - 80 transclusions
 * I have recently added these templates to more articles, so the minimum has been (nearly) reached to justify the creation of three more categories. --Fabio Descalzi, aka Fadesga (talk) 19:38, 23 October 2012 (UTC)

West Virginia County categories
Speedy proposals for the following counties: Dawynn (talk) 12:46, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
 * / BarbourWV-geo-stub - 70 transclusions
 * / MonongaliaWV-geo-stub - 94 transclusions
 * / PrestonWV-geo-stub - 62 transclusions
 * / RandolphWV-geo-stub - 65 transclusions
 * / UpshurWV-geo-stub - 65 transclusions

British act of parliament stubs
Both and  are oversized. It looks like there are around 450 articles in their intersection. Propose UK-statute-stub and to hold these. Not sure if there is a better category name though. The permcat is at, whereas the only existing sibling is at. --Qetuth (talk) 17:17, 19 October 2012 (UTC)
 * In general, support. The problem in the naming comes from the permcats reflecting the legal status of the parliament - that of England, Great Britain, the UK and also of Northern Ireland and the two incarnations of the parliament in Scotland. Will the new types cover all the parliaments? Or are they restricted to the parliament from 1801 onwards? If the former, perhaps : if the later, perhaps . SeveroTC 12:46, 22 October 2012 (UTC)
 * I think it would be better to make the scope broad to start with, and maybe there will be subcats later, so . --Qetuth (talk) 14:23, 1 November 2012 (UTC)

Category:Argentiniformes stubs
I have been going through the Category:Fish stubs and the Category:Ray-finned fish stubs. I have seen a lot of Argentiniformes. What about creating a Template:Argentiniformes-stub and a Category:Argentiniformes stubs? Greetings, --Fabio Descalzi, aka Fadesga (talk) 12:28, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Support - 59 stubs is just barely too small - I think that given the size of, we can IAR and create it. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 14:27, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Support --Qetuth (talk) 12:32, 22 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Category and stub created. --Fabio Descalzi, aka Fadesga (talk) 14:37, 22 October 2012 (UTC)

Category:African railway station stubs
We're up to 51 transclusions already of its stub tag, Africa-railstation-stub. Even if I don't end up finding 9 more (and I probably will), this template feeds into the oversized Category:African building and structure stubs. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 12:03, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Support - 57 now by the look, and I think this one is useful enough for some leeway. --Qetuth (talk) 12:31, 22 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Support and any country level templates to upmerge that you see fit when sorting. SeveroTC 12:49, 22 October 2012 (UTC)

Alkene
Propose creation of and Alkene-stub. Past 60 possible candidates, parent(s) oversized. Plasmic Physics (talk) 23:02, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Support --Qetuth (talk) 12:28, 22 October 2012 (UTC)

Asian football club speedies
Propose speedy creation of and, both are past 60 transclusions, and parent is oversized. --Qetuth (talk) 06:43, 11 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Speedy. SeveroTC 16:20, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

Speedy Indian building and structure stubs

 * Propose for both India-church-stub and the unproposed but perfectly good India-RC-church-stub, which have reached 60 transclusions between them.
 * Propose for India-museum-stub, which has passed 60 transclusions.
 * Propose upmerged templates India-hotel-stub and India-bridge-struct-stub.
 * --Qetuth (talk) 14:21, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Speedy. SeveroTC 16:20, 17 October 2012 (UTC)