Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Proposals/Archive/2016/August

Moths, ad infinitum (further dividing of Category:Gelechiidae stubs sub- and sub-sub-categories)
Gelechiidae used to be at a fearsome 5500 stubs. Since then, it's been split up nicely across several subcategories. (See down the page at "Split of Category:Gelechiidae stubs", 2 August proposal. Thank you for doing that, by the way, ). Several of the new categories still are fairly large and could be split up further by using genus-level categories, for which there is precedence (among other examples,, and  come to mind).

As such, I propose:

''Article-numbers given for existing categories do not include numbers in their already-existing subcategories. Unless otherwise stated, all articles for the proposed subcategories can be found in the category I'm proposing it as subcategory of.''

For (sub-subcat of Gelechiidae stubs through, 464 articles), the following subcategories:
 * /Anacampsis-stub. 82 articles.
 * /Compsolechia-stub. 112 articles.
 * /Stomopteryx-stub. 69 articles.

For (sub-subcat of Gelechiidae stubs through, 248 articles), the following subcategory:
 * /Hypatima-stub. 104 articles.

For (direct subcat of Gelechiidae stubs, 700+ articles), the following subcategories:
 * /Aristotelia-stub. 151 articles.
 * /Megacraspedus-stub. 71 articles.
 * /Monochroa-stub. 64 articles.

For (direct subcat of Gelechiidae stubs, 178 articles), the following subcategory:
 * /Brachmia-stub, 72 articles.

For (direct subcat of Gelechiidae stubs, 564 articles), the following subcategory:
 * /Ardozyga-stub, 140 articles.

For (sub-subcat of Gelechiidae stubs through Gelechiinae stubs, 436 articles), the following:
 * /Filatima-stub, 79 articles.

For (sub-subcat of Gelechiidae stubs through Gelechiinae stubs, 508 articles), the following: AddWittyNameHere (talk) 05:13, 28 August 2016 (UTC)
 * /Caryocolum-stub, 81 articles.
 * /Scrobipalpula-stub, 64 articles.

Athens stubs
I propose creating: For list, see User:Od Mishehu/Athens/list. This category will also pick up (extant category, 83 stubs). עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 09:52, 23 August 2016 (UTC)
 * /Athens-stub - 46 stubs would get this tag
 * Athens-geo-stub(upmerged) - 37 stubs
 * /Athens-struct-stub - 88 stubs

Fungi stubs
Propose creating Capnodiales-stub/Category:Capnodiales stubs to split up Category:Dothideomycetes stubs. It would contain 254 stubs. ~ Rob 13 Talk 19:37, 21 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Support. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 02:48, 22 August 2016 (UTC)

Subcategories for Category:Year stubs
Propose creating: This will help split up a large category. ~ Rob 13 Talk 19:24, 21 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Sweden-year-stub/Category:Sweden year stubs (135 stubs, according to AWB)
 * Iran-year-stub/Category:Iran year stubs (70 stubs, according to AWB)
 * BC-year-stub/Category:BC year stubs (202 stubs, according to AWB)
 * Support. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 02:48, 22 August 2016 (UTC)


 * Hah. I was just coming here to propose similar - Africa-year-stub/ (along with the Swedish one you've already proposed) - which would reach around 75 stubs. Grutness...wha?  10:28, 26 August 2016 (UTC)
 * AWB seems to be way off, BTW - I've added Sweden-year-stub to 175 stubs, and there are still 300 more in to do! Grutness...wha?  11:44, 26 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Went and started sorting the remaining stubs in the above-mentioned category. (Hope you folks don't mind me butting in? ) Any other places appropriate stubs might be hidden from what you know, or should that be all of 'm? Oh, and in case needed, support for the Africa-year-stub category. AddWittyNameHere (talk) 00:53, 28 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Cheers :) - as far as I know unless there are any unstubbed ones which should be stubbed, the year and history categories should have all of them. Grutness...wha?  01:27, 28 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Ah yes, unstubbed ones are a possibility. Suppose it's easiest to first sort what's left to sort and then just check which years are missing (and thus probably un-tagged, because I think almost every Year in Sweden is a stub...) Just the bunch 1901-1999 to go now, thankfully. EDIT at ~03:27 (UTC): &done. Also caught the handful of non-tagged stubs. AddWittyNameHere (talk) 01:42, 28 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Personally, unless it's for a category just short of threshold, I don't often go out of my way checking for missing ones ;) Sooner or later someone is likely to tag them anyway - and just sorting what we do have is workload enough! Grutness...wha?  04:16, 28 August 2016 (UTC)

Moths again
Propose creating: These help break out a very large stub category, Category:Cossoidea stubs. ~ Rob 13 Talk 18:16, 21 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Cossinae-stub/Category:Cossinae stubs (467 stubs)
 * Metarbelinae-stub/Category:Metarbelinae stubs (263 stubs)
 * Zeuzerinae-stub/Category:Zeuzerinae stubs (433 stubs)
 * Hypoptinae-stub/Category:Hypoptinae stubs (164 stubs)

Additionally propose creating: These help break out a very large stub category, Category:Crambinae stubs. ~ Rob 13 Talk 18:28, 21 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Chiloini-stub/Category:Chiloini stubs (109 stubs)
 * Argyriini-stub/Category:Argyriini stubs (62 stubs)
 * Crambini-stub/Category:Crambini stubs (712 stubs)
 * Diptychophorini-stub/Category:Diptychophorini stubs (220 stubs)
 * Haimbachiini-stub/Category:Haimbachiini stubs (127 stubs)
 * Prionapterygini-stub/Category:Prionapterygini stubs (128 stubs)
 * Support all. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 02:49, 22 August 2016 (UTC)

Category:2000s trip hop album stubs
Speedy based on 2000s-trip-hop-album-stub? ~ Rob 13 Talk 17:21, 21 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Support. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 02:49, 22 August 2016 (UTC)

Category:American archery biography stubs
Speedy based on US-archery-bio-stub, which has 64 stubs. This helps clear the very large Category:American sportspeople stubs. ~ Rob 13 Talk


 * Support. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 02:49, 22 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Support speedy. Her Pegship (talk) 20:54, 25 August 2016 (UTC)

Washington sportspeople stubs
There are now around 70 stubs with Washington-sport-bio-stub, but I'm of two minds about this speedy. Do we really want to create stub templates for each state? Is this a defining characteristic worth the use of a second stub template, as on Chris Magruder? The obvious answer to me is no to both, and I'd prefer to see existing transclusions of this template removed instead. Thoughts on this would be appreciated. ~ Rob 13 Talk 09:48, 18 August 2016 (UTC)

1990s hip hop single stubs
Propose creating 1990s-hiphop-single-stub/Category:1990s hip hop single stubs to help cut down Category:1990s single stubs. See the Petscan, which identified 99 possible articles. In my experience, there will be some false positives, but most will make it in to the final category. Certainly more than 60, at least. ~ Rob 13 Talk 08:47, 18 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Support. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 02:49, 22 August 2016 (UTC)

London sports venue stubs
I propose creating /London-sports-venue-stub - a quick scan gives 63 stubs for this category. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 03:19, 14 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Support. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 02:50, 22 August 2016 (UTC)

1990s-progressive-rock-album-stub/Category:1990s progressive rock album stubs
Would be helpful to reduce the size of the very large stub category Category:1990s rock album stubs. There's at least 46 stubs just among the contents of Category:Progressive rock album stubs, and I'm extremely confident that I can find 14 more among the >1,000 stubs in Category:1990s rock album stubs. For reference, Category:2000s progressive rock album stubs has over 100 stubs in it. ~ Rob 13 Talk 05:00, 11 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Support. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 02:50, 22 August 2016 (UTC)

By year cats for Category:1980s country song stubs
Category:1980s country song stubs is a large stub category (>1,000 stubs), but there's no easy way to break it apart by subgenre, as "country music" doesn't have very clearly-defined subgenres. Instead, the only method of potential subcategorization would be 1980-country-song-stub/Category:1980 country song stubs through 1989-country-song-stub/Category:1989 country song stubs. This is unusual within this categorization scheme, but it's comparable to the "song by year" categories and it's unlikely that the large stub category issue will go away anytime soon given the lack of easily-available sources for 1980s songs. All proposed categories would be >60 articles according to Petscan. ~ Rob 13 Talk 00:10, 11 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Support - when we have huge stub categories, we need to break them up by any reasonable means we have. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 11:42, 11 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Support. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 02:50, 22 August 2016 (UTC)

Speedy Philippines region cats
MetroManila-geo-stub and Calabarzon-geo-stub are now above 60. Propose speedy creating Category:Metro Manila geography stubs and Category:Calabarzon geography stubs. ~ Rob 13 Talk 23:16, 10 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Support as I've been sorting madly in the parent category. Her Pegship (talk) 18:15, 11 August 2016 (UTC)
 * You can add to this proposal (63). Her Pegship (talk) 19:01, 12 August 2016 (UTC)

Speedy Category:2010s death metal album stubs
Following up to the creation of the stub template below. As expected, I managed to find enough articles to populate this template. It now has 68 transclusions, so a category can be speedied. ~ Rob 13 Talk 22:21, 10 August 2016 (UTC)

1960s/70s Italian comedy films
Category:1960s Italian film stubs and Category:1970s Italian film stubs are both overly large. Category:1960s Italian comedy film stubs and Category:1970s Italian comedy film stubs could immediately have 171 and 158 stubs, respectively, just by combining those with both 1960s-Italy-film-stub/1970s-Italy-film-stub and 1960s-comedy-film-stub/1970s-comedy-film-stub. There's certainly more out there which don't have both stub templates on them, as well. Propose 1960s-Italy-comedy-film-stub/1970s-Italy-comedy-film-stub and Category:1960s Italian comedy film stubs/Category:1970s Italian comedy film stubs. ~ Rob 13 <sup style="margin-left:-1.0ex;">Talk 21:43, 10 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Only if we create the entire tree of stub tags. One we do that, I support any categories in that tree which have at least 60 stubs. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 12:05, 11 August 2016 (UTC)
 * I'd support creating additional stub templates for other decades from the 1950s forward and a broad Italy-comedy-film-stub. The 1950 cutoff is semi-arbitrary, but my point is just that we shouldn't be making a stub template for 1890s Italian comedy film stubs. ~ Rob 13 <sup style="margin-left:-1.0ex;">Talk 18:51, 11 August 2016 (UTC)

Speedy
Article count is now well over 70; speedy? Her Pegship (talk) 18:48, 10 August 2016 (UTC)

Transport(ation) building and structure stubs
I propose creating a full set of transport-struct-stub for any region which has any of its natural subcat tags, such as railstation-stub (region may even be part of a city, e.g Brooklyn, which has Brooklyn-railstation-stub), and categories (either "transport building and structure stubs" or "transportation building and structure stubs, based on other transport(ation)-related categories for the same place, per ENGVAR) where the new tags, along with their natural children, bring the count up to 60. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 12:24, 10 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Correct that rather lovely neologism "transprot", and I'll agree :) Grutness...<small style="color:#008822;">wha?  02:10, 11 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Fixed. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 02:45, 11 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Y Grutness...<small style="color:#008822;">wha?  07:15, 11 August 2016 (UTC)

England building and structure stubs
I was recently surprised to see that /England-struct-stub doesn't exist, especially since the systemic bias here tends to prefer England. Looking at, In saw that we have several of the natural subcats of , although not the category itself. I recommend that we fix this problem. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 10:53, 10 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Just asking: wouldn't this be ? Her Pegship (talk) 16:49, 10 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Actual;ly, you're right. I just looked st the immediate parent (United Kingdom, not British), and not at the rest of the tree. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 18:06, 10 August 2016 (UTC)


 * What are you trying to stub-sort here? The two transclusions that I've just found (Station Theatre (Hayling Island) and The Biggin Hall) were both better stub-sorted to county level. In fact, county-level stub templates exist for most (all?) counties, it's hard to think of a situation which would require . -- Red rose64 (talk) 20:11, 10 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Stub sorting isn't a question of all or nothing; the fact that some one, seeing a stub about a building in England, would automatically place an England-struct-stub on it, is a reason to have that template. Same reason we have a NewYork-NRHP-stub tag - it allows for partial stub dorting by someone who knows the article is in the state of New York, without forcing them to check which county it's in. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 02:44, 11 August 2016 (UTC)

I'd definitely say yes to the category, but I'd have made it parent-only. Everything is in a county. Given that it's made though, it ill suffice for structures in counties which don't (yet) have their own templates. Grutness...<small style="color:#008822;">wha?  07:17, 11 August 2016 (UTC)
 * The counties currently lacking B&S stub cats are: Cambridgeshire; Derbyshire; East Riding of Yorkshire; East Sussex; Hertfordshire; Isle of Wight; Leicestershire; Northamptonshire; Nottinghamshire; Rutland; South Yorkshire; West Sussex; West Yorkshire; Worcestershire. For each of these, the relevant region-level cat exists, and if there are sufficient, we might split them out to county cats. -- Red rose64 (talk) 15:09, 11 August 2016 (UTC)

2000s-trip-hop-album-stub
A Petscan indicates that exactly 60 stubs within Category:2000s electronic album stubs (a very large category in need of diffusion) could likely be sorted into a trip hop-specific category. Given that this is right on the edge, it's possible there won't be enough to justify the category immediately, but it's worth the template. ~ Rob 13 <sup style="margin-left:-1.0ex;">Talk 03:54, 10 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Support template immediately, support category if there are enough stubs to use it. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 08:07, 10 August 2016 (UTC)

London sport stubs
I propose creating /London-sport-stub as the intersection of and  - even without the Olympics stub tag I've upmerged there, we have 65 stubs for this category. And we have 3 separate Summer Olympics which took place there, one of them with a full-sized category. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 05:28, 9 August 2016 (UTC)

, part 3
Working through the above category (many of the stubs depressingly don't say where the formations are - they could be anywhere from Zambia to Fiji - slowly trying to find out where they are). Each of these would have at least 30-40 stubs, and the Africa one will probably get very close to threshold. The three national-level templates should be speediable, given precedent. Grutness...<small style="color:#008822;">wha?  08:18, 3 August 2016 (UTC)
 * There are now enough articles (69) marked with China-geologic-formation-stub for a speediable
 * I'd say that there are several more templates which could be useful:
 * Argentina-geologic-formation-stub
 * Japan-geologic-formation-stub
 * India-geologic-formation-stub
 * Africa-geologic-formation-stub
 * SouthAm-geologic-formation-stub
 * CentralAm-geologic-formation-stub
 * I overestimated with India - it would only get to about 20 stubs. Grutness...<small style="color:#008822;">wha?  11:31, 6 August 2016 (UTC)

Update:
 * is speediable at 71 stubs. Grutness...<small style="color:#008822;">wha?  02:33, 11 August 2016 (UTC)
 * is speediable at 67 stubs. Grutness...<small style="color:#008822;">wha?  06:59, 11 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Annoyingly, even with hunting for more stubs, the Central American type reaches a tantalising 58 stubs. Grutness...<small style="color:#008822;">wha?  07:14, 11 August 2016 (UTC)

Split of
Propose splitting this category along these lines: Dawynn (talk) 14:06, 2 August 2016 (UTC)
 * / Anacampsinae-stub ~ 860 p. Further split by ...
 * / Anacampsini-stub ~ 460 p
 * / Chelariini-stub ~ 250 p
 * / Anomologinae-stub ~ 705 p
 * / Apatetrinae-stub ~ 190 p
 * / Dichomeridinae-stub ~ 900 p. Further split by ...
 * / Dichomeris-stub ~ 600 p
 * / Helcystogramma-stub ~ 120 p
 * / Gelechiinae-stub ~ 2690 p. Further split by ...
 * / Gelechiini-stub ~ 820 p. Further split by ...
 * / Chionodes-stub ~ 240 p
 * / Gelechia-stub ~ 145 p
 * / Gnorimoschemini-stub ~ 905 p. Further split by ...
 * / Gnorimoschema-stub ~ 115 p
 * / Scrobipalpa-stub ~ 280 p
 * / Teleiodini-stub ~ 400 p
 * / Thiotrichinae-stub ~ 165 p

Speedy request:
We already have a full category for and Africa-dam-stub. Speedy request to build the continent category as a proper hierarchical structure. Dawynn (talk) 02:05, 1 August 2016 (UTC)
 * It'd be a little light at 34 stubs, even with the subcat, but there may be some more kicking around unmarked... Grutness...<small style="color:#008822;">wha?  08:21, 3 August 2016 (UTC)
 * There was a LOT of understubbing and generic "struct" stubbing. Should be speediable now with about 70 stubs. Grutness...<small style="color:#008822;">wha?  08:43, 3 August 2016 (UTC)