Wikipedia:WikiProject Tree of Life/Cladogram requests/Archive 7

Alismatid monocots
Hi, I'm doing a list of alismatid monocots (still in user-space, but it'll be ready for article-space soon). The cladogram on that page has only two branches. My sources support a cladogram along these lines:

This borrows the cladogram from our Alismatales article, and I tried to add Acorales to this, and this is in fact roughly what I want it to look like ... but I'm getting an error message (because of the "|label1=Alismatales ... |1=" duplication of the "1" parameter). When I try to fix it, the cladogram always winds up being wrong. Help? - Dank (push to talk) 19:53, 22 October 2022 (UTC)

Thanks Dave, your edit fixed it (in the sense that I'm not getting an error message now). - Dank (push to talk) 20:21, 22 October 2022 (UTC)

That worked out well ... List of alismatid monocot families is up at WP:FLC now, thanks much. I'm working on the next list, and so far, I've had no luck with the next cladogram ... should I make this a separate request? It's for the Commelinids (again, down to the family level). - Dank (push to talk) 20:48, 25 October 2022 (UTC)
 * It sounds like you are requesting a cladogram for Commelinids. Do you have a source that can be followed in order to create one? Or do you have a cladogram already started that needs fixing? Cougroyalty (talk) 20:35, 26 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Oh, sorry, sure, I'm just looking for the standard APG4 cladogram. This can be dug out of Wikipedia as follows: A cladogram for just the orders of the commelinids is at Commelinids (except that I don't want "commelinid" to appear as a node), and for the families: Poales is at Poales (but I don't want any of the "clade" labels), Zingiberales is the last one at Zingiberales, Arecales is trivial, and there's a cladogram for Commelinales at APWeb. (Or, any other way you want to reproduce APG4 will be fine.) - Dank (push to talk) 22:09, 26 October 2022 (UTC)


 * The APG-IV topology for the commelinids is in the cladogram to the right. I can add families if you have a source. The APWeb cladogram for Commelinales is based on a 1995 morphological study. Is this still considered the arrangement?
 * Incidentally, I've tidied up the cladogram at Alismatid monocots and made a few improvements. I don't know if your want to include something like that in your list article. —  Jts1882 &#124; talk 08:27, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Thx kindly. I'll ask my FLC reviewers which sources they'd prefer. - Dank (push to talk) 13:09, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Actually ... striking this. Cancel my request please. I've got health issues, and that cladogram you did for the monocots looks great, I'll try using that instead. - Dank (push to talk) 21:48, 27 October 2022 (UTC)

Japanese fire-bellied newt
I'm working on bringing this to where I can nominate it as a FAC, so a cladogram would be very helpful.
 * Hi, you should add a source it can be based on. FunkMonk (talk) 20:25, 8 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Very detailed one here. An anonymous username, not my real name (talk) 22:09, 8 November 2022 (UTC)
 * The link didn't work for me, but I think this is what you want? -SlvrHwk (talk) 22:50, 8 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Yeah, that's what I was looking for. I should've double-checked that link before I added it. Thanks a million! An anonymous username, not my real name (talk) 23:23, 8 November 2022 (UTC)

Japanese fire-bellied newt 2
Working on bringing to FA status, and it's been recommended that I use a cladogram based on this source instead of the current one. An anonymous username, not my real name 00:53, 20 November 2022 (UTC)


 * You need to be more precise on what you need exactly on this paper. Larrayal (talk) 20:24, 20 November 2022 (UTC)
 * , I just need a cladogram that shows the split between C. pyrrhogaster and C. ensicauda, as well as the divergence of the clades within C. pyrrhogaster, all of which is discussed in detail in the source. An anonymous username, not my real name  18:54, 22 November 2022 (UTC)

Interatheriidae
Hi, may I request that the cladogram of Fernández et al. be coded up (full image of pdf btw)? Thanks in advance. I am only interested in including the taxa from Node A down to Node O. --Magnatyrannus (talk &#124; contribs) 19:48, 19 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Here it is ! Tell me if you need the species too. Larrayal (talk) 20:19, 20 November 2022 (UTC)
 * I suggest the species are needed in the cladogram as well. --Magnatyrannus (talk &#124; contribs) 02:53, 23 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Also, add the clade labels as seen in the image. --Magnatyrannus (talk &#124; contribs) 20:25, 23 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: The taxa in Node E represent Interatheriinae, while the taxa in Nodes A, B, C, and D represent the taxa outside Interatheriinae --Magnatyrannus (talk &#124; contribs) 22:22, 23 November 2022 (UTC)

Mieridduryn
This animal is quite strange, and I think a cladogram might help readers get a better look at it. I would suggest making the cladogram that classified Mieridduryn as an opabiniid, as that is the more supported alternative. Here is the link: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-022-34204-w#Sec16Fossiladder13 (talk) 15:22, 2 December 2022 (UTC)
 * I guess the cladogram would look like this: Cougroyalty (talk) 17:53, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

Hymenoptera
Hi, can I request that the cladogram from figure 1 of be coded up? Can it be truncated to only the clades, ignoring the genera. Thanks. Hemiauchenia (talk) 23:02, 24 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Not sure how much detail you want within Apoidea, so I made 3 versions. —Trilletrollet [ Talk &#124; Contribs ] 04:47, 25 December 2022 (UTC)

Talk:Amazichthys
There is a request for a cladogram at Talk:Amazichthys. Plantdrew (talk) 22:27, 10 January 2023 (UTC)

Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Insects#Requested_changes_to_Termite_cladogram_and_internal_phylogenetic_tree
And there is another request at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Insects Plantdrew (talk) 21:38, 12 January 2023 (UTC)

Acanthodii cladogram
Would it be possible to code up figure 6 from this paper? I would like the placoderms, osteichthyes and crown group chondricthyes collapsed for clarity. Thanks as always. Hemiauchenia (talk) 21:42, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Here it is —Trilletrollet [ Talk &#124; Contribs ] 23:00, 15 January 2023 (UTC)

Lungfish phylogeny
Sorry to make another req so soon. Would it be possible to code up the cladogram from "Evolutionary history of lungfishes with a new phylogeny of post-Devonian genera"? There's already a version in the article, but it incorrectly attributes generic placement to whole families, and doesn't include the majority of the Devonian lungfish. Thanks as always. Hemiauchenia (talk) 21:26, 16 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Done —Trilletrollet [ Talk &#124; Contribs ] 22:32, 16 January 2023 (UTC)

Bothriolepididae cladogram
Greetings, I am requesting a cladogram for Bothriolepididae. Link:(Cladogram located on pg 112.) Thanks. PlacodermReconstructions (talk) 17:49, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Is this ok? The cladogram doesn't mark Bothriolepididae, so I included all of Bothriolepidoidei. —Trilletrollet [ Talk &#124; Contribs ] 19:06, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Awesome. PlacodermReconstructions (talk) 19:13, 1 February 2023 (UTC)

Titanichthys phylogeny
Back again, I saw this phylogenetic tree for Titanichthys, here. and I want to include said cladogram into Titanichthys, since there isn't one there yet. PlacodermReconstructions (talk) 06:55, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
 * it took a while, but here it is —Trilletrollet [ Talk &#124; Contribs ] 19:16, 15 February 2023 (UTC)

Silesaurs as ornithischians
I'd like to show the recent cladogram finding silesaurs within Ornithischia in the Diodorus article, and it would also be handy in the Silesauridae article, which only shows the "traditional" non-dinosaur view. The paper is free here:, and it would be fig. 1 with everything but the lower green clade collapsed into major groups (Theropoda etc.). FunkMonk (talk) 20:27, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
 * I'm working on it —Trilletrollet [ Talk &#124; Contribs ] 20:44, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
 * I think it might be nice to claim requests like this going forward. I've started on a few cladograms in the past without realizing they were already being worked on ;) Lythronaxargestes (talk &#124; contribs) 20:51, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Would probably be good to add that in the top blurb as a guideline, then. FunkMonk (talk) 20:52, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I've had that problem too lol —Trilletrollet [ Talk &#124; Contribs ] 21:14, 23 February 2023 (UTC)


 * Decided to base the cladogram on the more recent Norman et al. (2022) paper, which has a somewhat better sampling of ornithischians and adds a few new clades. Also, I excluded all the non-dinosaur groups, because the cladogram would be way too big otherwise. Hope it's okay —Trilletrollet [ Talk &#124; Contribs ] 21:14, 23 February 2023 (UTC)


 * Oh yeah, that was probably the one I wanted in the first place, but could only find the older one, thanks! FunkMonk (talk) 21:17, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Just noticed that figure 6 of the paper has a version of the cladogram with more labels, which have now been added —Trilletrollet [ Talk &#124; Contribs ] 21:38, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks, was about to update the article, but seems you already did hehe. Will add it to Diodorus next time I expand it. I wonder if the two cladograms would work side by side (as in Elasmosaurus) to avoid white space, but perhaps wouldn't work since this one is much taller. FunkMonk (talk) 21:43, 23 February 2023 (UTC)

Macraucheniidae cladogram
Hello, I am requesting that the cladogram from Püschel et al. 2023 be coded up. The image of the cladogram in question is here: https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10914-022-09646-0/figures/20. In addition, also demonstrate a paraphyletic Cramaucheniinae, from Pternoconius to Theosodon. The outgroup taxon is Tricoelodus. Thanks in advance. --Magnatyrannus (talk &#124; contribs) 00:32, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Which of the two cladograms in that figure do you want? I'm gonna assume you want the lower one, unless you're a fan of huge polytomies. —Trilletrollet [ Talk &#124; Contribs ] 00:53, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Well, here it is anyway —Trilletrollet [ Talk &#124; Contribs ] 01:12, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Tbh I'm not really a fan of polytomies, thank you. --Magnatyrannus (talk &#124; contribs) 01:42, 13 March 2023 (UTC)

Gomphotherium phylogeny
Hi can I have the cladogram from https://www-tandfonline-com.wikipedialibrary.idm.oclc.org/doi/full/10.1080/02724634.2017.1318284 coded up? I would like the group labels to be included. Hemiauchenia (talk) 21:03, 13 March 2023 (UTC)
 * I can do that —Trilletrollet [ Talk &#124; Contribs ] 23:10, 13 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Done —Trilletrollet [ Talk &#124; Contribs ] 23:46, 13 March 2023 (UTC)

Thanks, much appreciated. Hemiauchenia (talk) 23:50, 13 March 2023 (UTC)