Wikipedia:WikiProject Tropical cyclones/Assessment/Tropical Storm Vicente (2018)

Tropical Storm Vicente (2018)

 * Nominator(s): Noah Talk 18:11, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

Asking for an A-class review for this article. I would like to eventually take this to FAC. Noah Talk 18:11, 6 April 2020 (UTC)


 * "was an unusually small tropical cyclone" - you never mention the storm size directly, so how do we know what's usual for a TC size?
 * Mentioned size with the extent of peak winds in the met. Noah Talk 15:00, 12 April 2020 (UTC)


 * "The twenty-first named storm" - why not write it as a number?
 * Eh... I think it looks more professional when written out this way rather than 21st. Noah Talk 15:00, 12 April 2020 (UTC)


 * "A brief break from the dry air during the next day allowed the storm to recuperate and slightly strengthen before outflow from the nearby Hurricane Willa caused further weakening. " - that's a lot
 * Split. Noah Talk 15:00, 12 April 2020 (UTC)


 * What was the peak rainfall?
 * Added that. Noah Talk 15:05, 12 April 2020 (UTC)


 * "The heavy rainfall caused numerous rivers to spill their banks, dozens of landslides to occur, and severe flooding to ensue elsewhere." - grammar is off
 * Im not seeing what's wrong with it. Noah Talk 15:05, 12 April 2020 (UTC)


 * "Plan DN-III-E was activated in multiple states to provide aid to a large number of affected individuals" - why not write in the lead how many people were affected
 * Cut the mention of number since I have no idea how many in total were affected by the storm or how much the aid would cover. Noah Talk 19:47, 12 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Maybe mention somewhere that convection = thunderstorms?
 * Mentioned. Noah Talk 21:07, 12 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Maybe mention that the NHC didn't anticipate development due to the system's small size and nearby presence of Willa?
 * Mentioned it right after formation and before mention of the environment. Noah Talk 21:07, 12 April 2020 (UTC)


 * "The depression was upgraded into Tropical Storm Vicente around 18:00 UTC" - that's the first time reference this paragraph
 * Dont think this applies anymore given the reorganization of the met. Noah Talk 21:07, 12 April 2020 (UTC)


 * "Throughout the majority of the day, October 19, the system was less than 115 mi (185 km) off the coast of Guatemala while it inched towards the northwest." - that's kinda weird (bold part). It'd be more useful to know how close it was, not just "less than 115 mi"
 * Cut the of the day part. I think the fact that it was so close for so long is more important than a slightly closer point. Keep in mind that I do mention it being only 90 mi away when it formed into a TD. I dont see the need to mention anything closer than that when it was very close to the coast for the entire day. Noah Talk 19:47, 12 April 2020 (UTC)


 * "was located less than 115 mi (185 km) off the coast of Chiapas and Oaxaca, Mexico" - was located less than 115 mi off the Mexican coast, off the states of Chiapas and Oaxaca" - just a suggested rewording
 * That wording seems a bit odd to me. Noah Talk 19:47, 12 April 2020 (UTC)


 * "An overall green alert" - is "overall" redundant?
 * Im not the one that came up with the warning system. They refer to it in that manner. Noah Talk 19:47, 12 April 2020 (UTC)


 * "Rainfall totals of 6.21 in (157.7 mm) and 5.31 in (134.8 mm) were recorded in Zihuatanejo, Guerrero" - two rainfall totals for the same location?
 * I believe they were recorded by different companies/organizations. I felt it useful to list both since there were few rainfall totals given. Noah Talk 19:47, 12 April 2020 (UTC)


 * "Residents were evacuated from the Jacarandas neighborhood by state officials and police officers after a gasoline leak occurred." - was the leak related to the storm?
 * clarified that. Noah Talk 21:07, 12 April 2020 (UTC)


 * "The Rio Grande river overflowed and drainage systems were completely filled throughout the Morelia municipality." - Rio Grande = Big River in Spanish, so that reads "The Big River River". Also, add a comma
 * Done. <span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#009200 0.3em 0.4em 1.0em,#009200 -0.2em -0.2em 1.0em;color:#009200">Noah Talk 21:07, 12 April 2020 (UTC)


 * "Ventura Puente, Carlos Salazar, Jacarandas, Los Manantiales, and Industrial experienced flooding up to 1 m (3.3 ft) deep"- are these neighborhoods of Morelia? If so, add that to the earlier bit when you mention the 27 neighborhoods being flooded
 * fixed that. <span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#009200 0.3em 0.4em 1.0em,#009200 -0.2em -0.2em 1.0em;color:#009200">Noah Talk 21:07, 12 April 2020 (UTC)


 * "The heavy rainfall also caused the ground to give way near Atapaneo" - so a landslide?
 * Yeah, but the phrase clearly means collapse and I don't want to include another instance of landslide given its usage later on. From pictures, it didn't look like it was that much anyways. It seemed to be just enough to break the track and cause the train to derail. <span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#009200 0.3em 0.4em 1.0em,#009200 -0.2em -0.2em 1.0em;color:#009200">Noah Talk 20:07, 12 April 2020 (UTC)


 * "A storm drainage ditch that empties into the Chahué Bay overflowed" - wording could be stronger
 * Fixed? <span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#009200 0.3em 0.4em 1.0em,#009200 -0.2em -0.2em 1.0em;color:#009200">Noah Talk 21:07, 12 April 2020 (UTC)


 * "Part of the drainage ditch collapsed and a sinkhole developed on a bridge." - the drainage part should be in the previous sentence. Also, if a bridge is over water, how can a sinkhole occur on a bridge?
 * Added via semicolon. I dont know whether the collapse caused flooding so I cant use "and" to connect the two. Don't ask how sinkholes can occur on bridges. I really don't know how they do and numerous English sources have reported sinkholes on bridges. <span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#009200 0.3em 0.4em 1.0em,#009200 -0.2em -0.2em 1.0em;color:#009200">Noah Talk 21:07, 12 April 2020 (UTC)


 * "Twenty-one communities were left without any outside communication as a result of severe floods" - are these the same 21 you mentioned being isolated earlier?
 * Cut the first mention and left the more detailed one. <span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#009200 0.3em 0.4em 1.0em,#009200 -0.2em -0.2em 1.0em;color:#009200">Noah Talk 21:07, 12 April 2020 (UTC)


 * "In the Santa Cruz de Tuxtepec neighborhood, affected individuals were removing mud from their homes after river flooding decreased." - wouldn't residents affected by floods be doing the same elsewhere in the state?
 * Removed that. <span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#009200 0.3em 0.4em 1.0em,#009200 -0.2em -0.2em 1.0em;color:#009200">Noah Talk 21:18, 12 April 2020 (UTC)


 * "A fence collapsed in Santiago Jamiltepec, resulting in several homes being inundated by floodwaters." - how does a fence collapsing = flooding?
 * Translation error. <span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#009200 0.3em 0.4em 1.0em,#009200 -0.2em -0.2em 1.0em;color:#009200">Noah Talk 21:18, 12 April 2020 (UTC)


 * "Fringe effects from the storm triggered flooding in Veracruz, leaving three people dead." - can you be clearer what these fringe effects are? Like, did it rain in the state?
 * Changed to rainfall <span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#009200 0.3em 0.4em 1.0em,#009200 -0.2em -0.2em 1.0em;color:#009200">Noah Talk 21:18, 12 April 2020 (UTC)


 * " In the Álamo-temapache municipality, the Green stream " - I'm guessing this is because of translation, but for water and land features, we should use the original language
 * Fixed. <span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#009200 0.3em 0.4em 1.0em,#009200 -0.2em -0.2em 1.0em;color:#009200">Noah Talk 21:18, 12 April 2020 (UTC)

All in all a pretty good article. ♫ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 01:51, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Everything should be addressed. <span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#009200 0.3em 0.4em 1.0em,#009200 -0.2em -0.2em 1.0em;color:#009200">Noah Talk 21:18, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm happy to support for A-class! ♫ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 14:13, 13 April 2020 (UTC)