Wikipedia:WikiProject U.S. Roads/Assessment/A-Class review/Interstate 470 (Ohio – West Virginia)

Interstate 470 (Ohio – West Virginia)

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 * The result was promoted to A-class! -  ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ  τ ¢  00:21, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

review
 * Suggestion: Promote to A-Class
 * Nominator's comments: Wee two ACRs at once! Once again, I feel that this article meets the A-Class requirements, and would like to nominate it for such.
 * Nominated by:  Admr Boltz  19:48, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
 * First comment occurred: 20:41, 5 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Support. My major concerns have been addressed.  The concerns I had remaining are minor.  "Town of the same name" is just awkward, but so is saying Bethlehem twice within 5 words.  We, as a project, should discuss the inclusion of state browsing links on articles like these. –Fredddie™ 17:29, 19 February 2011 (UTC)

Dough:


 * Support - My issues have been addressed. If any more historical information can be turned up, it would help to add it before taking to FAC. Dough 48 72  00:34, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

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 * General comments
 * 1) Regarding images, you'll want to ping {{user|25or6to4}} to add the correct GIS source for the map, add color key, etc.
 * Key added, 25or6to4 pinged. --  Admr Boltz  19:03, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
 * 1) The other images check out, although File:Interstate 470.jpg could use geotagging.
 * --  Admr Boltz  05:17, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
 * 1) "Map of the Wheeling area with I-470 highlighted in red" would be a better caption for the map in the infobox.
 * --  Admr Boltz  05:17, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
 * 1) DABs good
 * 2) ELs good
 * 3) Could use some ALT text.
 * --  Admr Boltz  05:17, 19 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Lead
 * 1) "By 1983, motorists could travel the full length of the freeway" That sentence just seems poorly constructed. Can it be reworded?
 * --  Admr Boltz  05:11, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
 * 1) US 250 should be unabbreviated and the abbreviation put in parentheses. Unless I missed something, it's the first mention of a US Highway in the text.
 * No, and I had US 40 unabbreviated in the end of the history... {{done-t}} --  Admr Boltz  05:11, 19 February 2011 (UTC)


 * RD
 * 1) First sentence could use a mention that you're talking about a location in Ohio, just for specificity.
 * {{done-t}} --  Admr Boltz  19:03, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
 * 1) "An exit ramp to County Road 28 provides travelers ..." should insert the {CR 28) abbreviation here.
 * {{done-t}} --  Admr Boltz  19:03, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
 * 1) "The freeway briefly parallels High Ridge Road (County Road 214) ..." abbreviate in the parentheses. (Additionally, add the road name to the line in the exit list table for continuity.)
 * {{done-t}} --  Admr Boltz  19:03, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
 * 1) Ping Dan and ask him if the "Ohio" is part of the "legal" name of state routes in the state. So long as the text is clear that you're still on the Ohio segment, if the state isn't part of the real name, then you don't need to repeat it in the text. That would remove a repetition with the state's name in the river name at the end of the sentence.
 * Pinged. --  Admr Boltz  19:03, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Removed Ohio per Dan's comment on his talk page. --  Admr Boltz  22:37, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
 * 1) "The Vietnam Veterans Memorial Bridge carries I-470 over three rail lines straddling the western banks of the river, the Ohio River, and into developed South Wheeling, Ohio County and the state of West Virginia." Ok, well, I'm not sure I like "the river, the Ohio River" here. Reading that, I almost add emphasis to the name so it's "the river, the Ohio River, and into..." even though that's not what's intended.
 * {{done-t}} --  Admr Boltz  19:03, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
 * 1) I'm tempted to say that in "The Ohio and West Virginia Departments of Transportation (ODOT and WVDOT)" the "departments of transportation" should be in lower case, just like "Marquette and Alger counties" has the common portion in lowercase. I'm not sure though. Looking at my AP Styleguide for some guidance, it agrees on the counties example (""Lowercase plural combinations: Westchester and Rockland counties"), but its plural example for government departments deals with two differently named units: "Lowercase department in plural uses, but capitalize the proper name element: the departments of Labor and Justice". Since the "transportation" name is common to both as well as the "department of" I'd drop the case on it as well, leaving only the states' names capitalized.
 * {{done-t}} --  Admr Boltz  19:03, 19 February 2011 (UTC)


 * History
 * 1) "Yellow Book" should be put in italics as well, and I'd shift the link to the full title from the nickname. Actually, I'd drop the Yellow Book name unless you're going to mention the book again.
 * {{done-t}} --  Admr Boltz  05:05, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
 * 1) "The West Virginia portion was under construction by 1976.[14] I-470 was completed by 1983 in both Ohio and West Virginia.[15][16]" I'd combine the two sentences, using fn 14 after the comma or semicolon that joins them. A second though would be to replace the states' names with "both states".
 * {{done-t}} --  Admr Boltz  05:05, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
 * 1) "about 518 meters (1,699 ft) of roadway" just seems quite odd to me. I'd use the  parameter, setting   if needed to keep the two measurements abbreviated for consistency with the rest of the article. Yes, I know that your source is given in metric, but it's still an American article.
 * {{done-t}} --  Admr Boltz  05:05, 19 February 2011 (UTC)


 * References
 * 1) Footnote 3 should have the hyphen switched to an en dash, removing the spaces in between the two years of the title. I'd unlike JPEG. It's not really needed as an explanation, I don't think.
 * {{done-t}} --  Admr Boltz  04:54, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
 * 1) Fn 5 should have a hyphen in I-470 in the title. Since the title doesn't really describe what it is, is there a section of the WVDOT website that you can use in the  field to offer some understanding? For listings of historic bridges from the MDOT website, I use "Historic Bridge Listing" as the work field for that reason.
 * {{done-t}} --  Admr Boltz  04:54, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
 * 1) Fn 9 needs fixing. I'd ditch the link to ajfroggie.com and use the url field to link to the inset directly.
 * {{done-t}} --  Admr Boltz  04:54, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
 * 1) Fn 10–11, double check that ODOT was called ODOT at that time. If not, switch the publisher to whatever the department was named at the time.
 * "the Ohio Department of Highways officially became the Ohio Department of Transportation in September 1972" --  Admr Boltz  04:54, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
 * 1) Fn 18: "July/August" should be "July–August" with an en dash per MOS.
 * {{done-t}} --  Admr Boltz  04:54, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
 * 1) Fn 19 should have a location indicated since the city isn't part of the paper's name.
 * {{done-t}} --  Admr Boltz  04:54, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
 * 1) For Fns 6 and 18, I'll try to pull the paper edition of the journal at the GRPL to get page numbers for you.

Overall, the article reads quite well. I can't find any glaring issues, just those minor formatting fixes. I agree though that I'd prefer some additional historical information from some dead-tree sources, but I think the article is fine in terms of content.  Imzadi 1979  →   04:27, 19 February 2011 (UTC) }} {{Hidden|style = border:1px black solid; padding:0;|titlestyle = background-color:#EEFF6600; color:blue;|contentstyle = padding:2px;border-top:1px black solid;|header=Resolved issues from --P C B  05:41, 24 February 2011 (UTC)|content=Comments:
 * Support nothing obvious preventing me from supporting promotion.  Imzadi 1979  →   01:31, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Several sentences at the end of the lead to not link together very well. I'd suggesst a couple transitions.
 * I think they flow fine, howver the article will be sent to the Guild 'o Copy Editors before I send the article to FAC. --  Admr Boltz  05:34, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
 * What do you mean by alternate western terminus? Are you implying that the route splits? I'd consider rewording that.
 * {{done-t}} --  Admr Boltz  05:34, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
 * "to the south links Bellaire to the loop." Are you referring to High Ridge Road?
 * The loop refers to I-470. I would use freeway, however in the same sentence I refer to I-70, and that would be a more confusing pronoun. --  Admr Boltz  05:34, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Does the valley have a name?
 * If I had this info, it would be in the article already. --  Admr Boltz  05:34, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Perhaps mention the rail lines before mentioning the bridge.
 * {{done-t}} --  Admr Boltz  05:34, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Could you specify which rocks became overstressed? The rocks beneath the freeway? The rocks that could potentially fall on the freeway?
 * {{done-t}} --  Admr Boltz  05:34, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Is there a cost anywhere for the freeway? Was the freeway constructed from west to east? East to west?
 * If I had this info, it would be in the article already. --  Admr Boltz  05:34, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I think you need to capitalize "troubled" and "bridge in ref 12.
 * {{done-t}} --  Admr Boltz  05:34, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Otherwise, the article looks pretty good. I'll be ready to support the article when the issues are addressed. --P C B  05:03, 24 February 2011 (UTC)}}


 * Support. I don't have any other issues with the article. --P C B  05:36, 24 February 2011 (UTC)


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