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Demon's Souls
So far the article has been greatly expanded in many sections. However of course more needs to be done such as the soundtrack and improving citations. Besides that however, any additional improvements mentioned would greatly help. Stabby Joe (talk) 12:07, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

"It was released in Japan on February 5, 2009 and published by Sony Computer Entertainment, and in North America on October 7, 2009 and published by Atlus."
 * Comments by DragonZero
 * Grammar seems off on the second half

Is the soundtrack officially translated into English? If not the Romaji and Kanji may be needed. References need to be in a cite-web template and have the url, title, retrieved date, publisher, and if possible, author. Some sources need to have their dates reconfigured to Month, Day, Year. The plot might need some quotes as reference. That was a quick skim through it though. DragonZero (talk · contribs) 01:52, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
 * I've tweaked that sentence and began updating the references, but is there anything else that can take the article to "the next level"? As for the soundtrack, it was only released in North America so I'm having a hard time finding the original translation... if any. Stabby Joe (talk) 00:52, 8 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Comments by TaerkastUA
 * Well, I hope you don't mind, but I've converted the bare URL references for consistancy, and cleaned some others up as well.-- The Taerkasten ( talk ) 20:12, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Not at all, that's brilliant. I was waiting for the next move since this review seems somewhat more slow than I was expecting to the point I started to work on another for the time being. Good work since most references before I started to massively and improve it were basic and not full references. Stabby Joe (talk) 23:53, 17 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Comment- I think the intro. should be expanded, it seems a bit small for all the content covered in the article. Sincerely Subzerosmokerain (talk) 13:29, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Not sure how it's too small. It's about the same size as most higher quality articles. Stabby Joe (talk) 00:21, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

Come on people, I really fail to believe this article is stuck on a C grade. Stabby Joe (talk) 13:08, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Comments by Subzerosmokerain
 * To begin, it is not C-Class anymore, I'm pretty sure it'll pass B-class, but your references are pretty poor, to point out:


 * 53, needs an author, date, and publisher (I did a quick click on it and saw that you can put that on there)
 * 46, can we consider that source reliable and when when it created?
 * 33, why is the publisher CNET if the title of the article is clearly Metacritic?
 * 2, is just a link
 * Under Merchandise and other media
 * "An exclusive strategy guide, Demon's Souls Official Perfect Guide, was released in 2009 in Japan, published by Enterbrain as a softcover book containing 192 pages of complete data of weapons, armor, items, area maps and secrets." This sentnece has no reference, things like exclusivity, who was it exclusive for? How do we know for a fact it was released in Japan in 2009? And the fact it was published by Enterbrain and has 192 pages. The italicized section seems to violate WP:OR and WP:NPOV.
 * "Two full sets of armor from the characters Garl Vinland and Biorr of the Twin Fangs were released for use in the PlayStation Home application in Japan." There is an attempt at an appositive, put a comma after the word "characters", and after the word "Fangs". What is the reference for this? Plus who are Garl Vinland and Biorr of the Twin Fangs? There should be a wikilink if they have their own articles.


 * The second paragraph of that section is written very weirdly and the Kotaku reference says that the strategy guide is 150-pages but the section says 160-pages. You should mention if there is a difference, plus the Kotaku reference doesn't even mention a slip-case, you need a reference for that.


 * Well, I hope that is helpful. I'll come back after I see those things done. Sincerely Subzerosmokerain (talk) 22:43, 9 May 2010 (UTC)


 * I've fixed some of those said references, although they weren't mine so I have no idea in the case of 46. In the case of CNET however, I'm not sure as I usually just put Metacritic. What is there role with them? I'll now look into your other points. Stabby Joe (talk) 00:19, 11 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Sorry for the late reply, the publisher should be Metacritic because that is the site where it comes from. Also this information came up a month ago:
 * http://kotaku.com/5520094/demons-souls-pal-release-has-fan+made-strategy-guide

I thought it was interesting and should be placed in the article. Sincerely Subzerosmokerain (talk) 03:07, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

Well now I'm just waiting to see what needs to be done to raise its grade as having worked on numerous game articles in the past, there are plenty that are higher but in my view seem somewhat on par if not worse than this article's current state. Stabby Joe (talk) 23:38, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

From my POV, there really seems nothing left to do. What i'd do now would take this to Wikiproject:VG for an assessment to B-class, you could probably make the jump to Good article, but just to be safe, I think WP:VG will find any minor mistakes left (if there are any at all) left in the article when assessing to B-class. Then you'd be safe to jump to Good article. Sincerely Subzerosmokerain (talk) 16:50, 2 June 2010 (UTC)


 * The lack of interest is really starting to annoy me. Granted I've been doing most of the editing but in previous work on articles there's usually a quick impartial assessment. Stabby Joe (talk) 19:03, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Still no notice even after posting it at the VGP page. Stabby Joe (talk) 11:29, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I got a comment. The Tracklist part in the soundtrack section should be expanded. It should be like Beyond Good & Evil's. GamerPro64 (talk) 12:54, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
 * That can now be done actually, since the game has come out in Europe and I have the soundtrack, thus the length of each although there is no Japanese translation since the soundtrack was never released there. Cheers BTW. Stabby Joe (talk) 21:43, 26 June 2010 (UTC)