Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Ideas/Archive 6

2020 initiative: WiR at Edinburgh Uni
As you may know, Edinburgh Uni are advertising for an intern to work on a @wikiwomeninred initiative. following their successful project documenting the 1000s of Scottish witches. Maybe we should reserve a month's editathon to support the work of that person when appointed? We would need to ask Ewan McAndrew who is organising this to see how we could help Victuallers (talk) 11:46, 24 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Good idea. Keep us updated on progress.--Ipigott (talk) 12:12, 24 November 2019 (UTC)

2020 initiative: Sports
I would also like to recommend that Sports be our year-long initiative in 2020 for these reasons: --Rosiestep (talk) 15:28, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
 * It will support the Summer Olympics.
 * I think it will attract a lot of new editors to our project.
 * I think this will improve our metrics.
 * I think other languages will be glad to join in the efforts (vs. not so much with our 2019 focus on suffrage).


 * Good idea Rosie - I would like to suggest that we are explicit in our drive for pictures of these athletes. The Olympics started out as a celebration of internationalism and now we see that every interest group is trying to capture these images in the copyright trap. We need to appeal to #citizenpower. Millions of pictures were taken at say Meghan Markle's wedding but the picture we have of her mum has to be cropped from a video. Maybe we need a theme of "Inspired by free to use photo". Like this for another editathon. Victuallers (talk) 11:35, 24 November 2019 (UTC)


 * There's a very long list of 2020 sports events at 2020 in sports. BegbertBiggs (talk) 21:05, 26 November 2019 (UTC)

Annual event: Public Domain Day
Hey! I've created some queries for the women that are entering in the public domain this year:
 * Women in the public domain 2020
 * Women creators in Asia entering the public domain 2020
 * Women creators in North America entering the public domain 2020
 * Women creators in Latin America entering the public domain 2020
 * Women creators in Europe entering the public domain 2020

I'm still missing the queries for Oceania/Africa/MENA.

I've created this queries calculating +70 postmortem, even when some countries have +50 postmortem, just to avoid adding a lot of complexity.

A bit of explanation on the idea behind this event: the Berne Convention establishes that authors enter the public domain on the following January 1st a year after +50/+70 years of their death, as to avoid complexity in terms of figuring out the exact month in which a certain author died. Open knowledge activists have created the "public domain day" as a way to celebrate the fact that different authors enter the public domain on that date. I think the | WikiProject Sum of All Paintings was considering to do something for the Public Domain Day, and there are several events happening in that month to celebrate, so it might be a good opportunity to also work in the topic of women but in connection with others.

I think it's also a good opportunity to higlight female artists entering into the public domain this year, but also to call the attention for more coverage of women on Wikidata. As you can see, the lists aren't very large, and I think the reason for that is not because there aren't that many women creators who are entering the public domain this year, but rather because they're not yet on Wikidata.

The event could run until the end of January.

Would love to hear your thoughts! Scann (talk) 18:28, 22 November 2019 (UTC)


 * Brilliant idea, . Public Domain Day is celebrated each year on January 1st, so it would make sense for WiR to hold this event every January. I looked at your queries and there are plenty of names there to form a WiR Wikidata redlist. Are you able to create it (WikiProject Women in Red/Women in the public domain 2020)? BTW, is a great resource regarding in this regard. Also, wondering what occupations are included in your queries, e.g. artists, writers? --Rosiestep (talk) 16:17, 5 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi ! If you want to make this an annual event (yay!) I'd suggest we create a page that is WikiProject Women in Red/Women in the public domain and then list them by year. The query is for "creators" so it includes all subsets of occupations under that title. We could modify it to make it more specific and/or include other categories. Scann (talk) 20:27, 6 December 2019 (UTC)
 * I've created the page! I'll be working on improving it in the next couple days. Happy to hear any suggestions. Scann (talk) 20:27, 6 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Thanks for all the assistance. Now that we seem to be ready to send out the invitation, may I suggest that like last year, we include an image expressing seasonal greetings and/or success in the New Year.--Ipigott (talk) 07:38, 23 December 2019 (UTC)

Geofocus: Central America

 * Connecticut
 * I normally don't post here, but I would really like to see a partnership with WP:CONN and do a geofocus for the Constitution state. We're missing some pretty important articles like Governorship of Ella Grasso, League of Women Voters of Connecticut, Roberta Willis Scholarship, General Federation of Women's Clubs of Connecticut. We also have several women elected to statewide office still without coverage(!). Then you have some really important articles that need expansion like: Roberta Willis. I compiled a list of redlinks here. Would anyone be interested in this event? &#8211; MJL &thinsp;‐Talk‐☖ 17:47, 6 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Doesn't seem appropriate as an idea for a whole WiR monthly topic - one can hardly argue that American women, from any state, are under-represented relative to most other countries of the world. Pam  D  15:29, 22 October 2019 (UTC)
 * I'm more concerned that Connecticut women leaders have not received any appropriate amount of coverage. We have had 8 women elected to statewide office still without articles (not to mention Ella Grasso's tenure as Governor- the first woman elected governor in her own right) } &#8211; MJL &thinsp;‐Talk‐☖ 16:46, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
 * I suspect there are entire countries of which the same could be said! By all means ask on the WiR talk page for a bit of support in getting articles written for the ladies of Connecticut, but I really don't think that one US state is an appropriate Geofocus for the whole of WiR for a month. Pam  D  16:53, 21 November 2019 (UTC)

Just a suggestion. --Rosiestep (talk) 15:09, 24 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Central America
 * I really love this ! Like the Caribbean, Central America is often drowned in Latin American events because people focus on the larger countries. SusunW (talk) 22:58, 26 November 2019 (UTC)

Activists
For consideration as per Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Women in Red. Note, though, that Activists will also be on our March schedule as once again, we'll be the online node of A+F whose scope in 2020 is Artists+Activists. --Rosiestep (talk) 16:46, 17 November 2019 (UTC)
 * I want to come over here and endorse this -- and note that UN Human Rights has expressed interest in doing more in the gender space in the upcoming year so any demonstration of the impact that can happen in January, would greatly support us advancing the partnership further -- and involve more organizers. Astinson (WMF) (talk) 00:11, 27 November 2019 (UTC)
 * I am always happy to do activists. Totally support it, as it is broad and can intersect with many different endeavors in which women are involved. SusunW (talk) 22:57, 26 November 2019 (UTC)
 * -- is there any chance that you all could create some type of landing page for the January event? I realize that it's a bit early, but we are going to be ramping up communications next week about the campaign -- and I would love to expose your activity in January on the event pages. Astinson (WMF) (talk) 21:12, 5 December 2019 (UTC)
 * , it's in draft state here: WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/148. --Rosiestep (talk) 22:10, 5 December 2019 (UTC)

Firming up for January
* #1day1woman: en:Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/150 / Template:WIR-150: * 2020 initiative: Sports: en:Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/151 / Template:WIR-151: * 2019 deaths: WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/146 / Template:WIR-146: * Activists: WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/148 / Template:WIR-148: * Public domain: WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/149 / Template:WIR-149: * Geofocus: Central America: WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/153 / Template:WIR-153: * Invite: WikiProject Women in Red/Outreach/2020

As we are quickly approaching the New Year, we need to decide first of all whether to go ahead with Sports as the topic for the year 2020. If so, might like to put together a meetup page, perhaps with any specific events we need to address in January.

As for January itself, can we go ahead with "Public domain newcomers" (women and their works), "Explorers" and "Central America"? (I suggest we leave activists for March.)

If we do PD newcomers, I think we need a red list. I hope will be able to help out, at least with a list for women entering the public domain in 2020.--Ipigott (talk) 07:59, 21 December 2019 (UTC)


 * I've already committed to the WMF that Women in Red will participate in their Activist campaign in January, so let's keep it on our agenda; draft meetup page here: WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/148. Perhaps has some creative ideas regarding redlists for this event?
 * Regarding the Public Domain event, has created a draft meetup page here (WikiProject Women in Red/Women in the public domain) (thank you!). I'll copy the info to here (WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/149) so it looks like a typical Women in Red event page. Scann, would you be willing to take the lead with selecting/developing redlists for this event?
 * Regarding Sports as our 2020 year-long theme event, I like the idea for the reasons stated previously, but let's see if everyone else is on board with it. I'll leave a note on the main WiR talkpage in this regard. --Rosiestep (talk) 18:13, 21 December 2019 (UTC)


 * , if there are hashtags for your initiatives, would you please add them into the WiR event pages? Thanks. --Rosiestep (talk) 18:56, 21 December 2019 (UTC)


 * I've created event pages + templates for: 148, 149, and 150. With 2020 initiative = Sports now confirmed, I'll create the event page + template for it (151) before the end of the day. Does someone else want to create the event pages + templates for 152 and 153? --Rosiestep (talk) 21:50, 21 December 2019 (UTC)


 * I'll do those 2. Megalibrarygirl (talk) 22:07, 21 December 2019 (UTC)


 * The 2019 Deaths event was for Dec/Jan. Do you want that event also/only/not on the Jan 2020 line? StrayBolt (talk) 23:26, 21 December 2019 (UTC)
 * I'm ok either way (continue or not). --Rosiestep (talk) 01:39, 22 December 2019 (UTC)


 * We have already announced that the 2019 deaths will continue in January. Now we have activists, we should drop explorers as otherwise we would be covering too much all at once. Let's include explorers in February. So that would now make geofocus on Central America #152. Good to have a draft page for PD day but I'm still concerned about the lack of a normal Wikidata redlist. It might be useful to ask for assistance on the WIR talk page. If that does not work, then we'll have to put once together ourselves on the basis of the Wikidata searches now included on the page.--Ipigott (talk) 08:03, 22 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Thanks for creating all the pages so quickly. I appreciate your help. However, on the basis of the above (unless you strongly disagree) we now need to delete explorers and move Central America to #152. I think it would be best if you made the changes yourself. Alternatively, I suppose we could keep things as they are and just change the month to February for explorers -- if you don't mind the interrupted mathematical sequencing. That would be much easier to do.--Ipigott (talk) 08:18, 22 December 2019 (UTC)


 * I've just seen was the one who created Explorers and Central America. Thanks for helping us along. That being the case, I think we should simply change the date to February on Explorers. We don't need to complicate things further.--Ipigott (talk) 08:24, 22 December 2019 (UTC)


 * , I think I've made all the changes. Please doublecheck. --Rosiestep (talk) 19:39, 22 December 2019 (UTC)
 * I've updated the template documentation. :) Megalibrarygirl (talk) 20:05, 22 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Great work and congrats to all. We have made editathon #150 (amazing! 150 of them). Particularly pleased to see Public Domain which I know is interested in and should appeal to   et al. I wonder if someone might modify 's query for 1949 deaths ... IMO we need an extra list - one that lists 1949 women's deaths of artists who ALREADY have articles. We can then add the articles which now feature pictures of the artists work (Wooo!). I'm so keen on this that I have created an article for #149 editathon - ready for her paintings to be added. Seasons greeting to all! Victuallers (talk) 09:56, 23 December 2019 (UTC)
 * I had already test modified the 2019 list to 1949. To make a blue list, modify the MINUS line to be ?wfr schema:about ?item . ?wfr schema:isPartOf . (It looks like the existing lists are short enough not to require a split) StrayBolt (talk) 16:54, 23 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi and ! I don't know how to make the list using the code provided. If a list is made would you ping me and let me know where it is? I would like to participate in adding PD images to the commons and articles. Thanks! WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 17:10, 23 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi I created a User:StrayBolt/TestQuery, but I don't know where a better home for it is. Also just learned that the Template:Wikidata list can do red/blue filtering using the "links" parameter. StrayBolt (talk) 17:51, 23 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks ! I'll bookmark that page for 2020. Best, WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 23:20, 23 December 2019 (UTC)


 * , I've created the invite (WikiProject Women in Red/Outreach/2020). Please do review it and fix anything that needs fixing. I can send out the MassMessage when you think it's ready to go. --Rosiestep (talk) 18:08, 23 December 2019 (UTC)

As we used that Happy New Year image last year, perhaps you could choose another one, for example File:Happy_New_Year_Card.png, File:HNY_Card_Firework.png or File:Cardmain3.jpg.--Ipigott (talk) 10:27, 24 December 2019 (UTC)

Annual event: Black History Month (to include Geofocus: Sub-Saharan Africa)
Redlists
 * Black History Month
 * from Feb 2019 event (Black women):
 * Black women in the visual arts (WD)
 * Black history (CS)
 * Black women in the US (CS)
 * Indigenous black women in Australia (CS)


 * A geofocus on Sub-Saharan Africa would compliment Black History Month, which is our annual event in February. --Rosiestep (talk) 18:17, 4 January 2020 (UTC)

Explorers

 * Redlists : WikiProject Women in Red/Travelers (CS)

As discussed in December, including Antarctica and the Arctic.--Ipigott (talk) 16:06, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Moved to February as per conversation in "Firming up for January".--Rosiestep (talk) 21:46, 22 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Meetup page and template: WikiProject_Women_in_Red/Meetup/152 / Template:WIR-152:

Women in Horror Month
Redlists
 * WikiProject Women in Red/Horror (CS)
 * WikiProject Women in Red/Horror/Wikidata (WD)

This takes place in February. web link, twitter link. There are various film festivals (eg Dublin) and publications which support this so women who work in the genre in film, writing etc would qualify for articles on this at this time  &#9749;  Antiqueight  chatter 08:08, 14 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi . I'm wondering if you've done any follow-up with this idea, e.g. redlists, etc.? --Rosiestep (talk) 09:13, 5 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks -I have a few names ready but it reminds me I was going to loop in a couple of folks and write the redlist properly. I'll get on that this week and we should have something by next week and enough to have it ready by February.   &#9749;  Antiqueight  chatter 11:25, 6 January 2020 (UTC)


 * Redlist for horror : WikiProject Women in Red/Horror (CS)
 * Thanks for creating the crowd-sourced list, ; please add it to the Redlist Index when you have a moment. We could also use a Wikidata-generated redlist; maybe can help with development? Also adding  as I think you've done some work with video games and/or manga before, so you might be aware of some other areas where women are involved with "horror". --Rosiestep (talk) 15:25, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
 * I think I have that added correctly to the Redlist index. I have a call out to a friend who works in Horror to help improve the redlist of names but yes if can help with wikidata that would be marvellous. And of course anyone else with more names or better headings. I intend to keep working on it to try add to other columns but will happily admit this isn't my area so there must be lots of related professions I haven't thought of (like make up effects or sounds....)   &#9749;  Antiqueight  chatter 15:50, 6 January 2020 (UTC)

I have a question and I'm not sure where to ask it but since it's about Women in Horror. There are categories of Women in Horror film, Women in Horror fiction and women Horror writers. Is there some way of linking all of those to a category of Women in Horror? (Ditto for any other related women in horror)  &#9749;  Antiqueight  chatter 19:22, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
 * - Hmm, not sure. Can you provide links to the categories you mention, so we can look at the issue more closely? --Rosiestep (talk) 10:44, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
 * - I suspect a page entitled "Women in Horror" (like Women in speculative fiction is what's needed but I will have to ask for help on that idea.. The categories in general of horror and women tend to be :
 * But they don't all roll up to the same parent categories and I'm not sure - can there be multiple parent categories? If there was a could these all be subcategories of it? So that if there was a woman who worked in horror (ie make up artist, costumer, letterer or something) which didn't exactly fit one of the other categories, they could be added to the parent one? And one could navigate from one women in horror category to another more easily to find all the women working in horror rather than having to search for multiple different headings? I think, that's what I mean - I'm not familiar with categories so I'm not sure what is possible and what isn't. I can dig further and experiment but I thought it someone already knows the answer that would be better...   &#9749;  Antiqueight  chatter 12:01, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
 * , I'm not an expert in this area, so I'm not sure what the best naming convention would be. That said, might work as a subcat of ; adding  for their opinion as they are expert in category structures. Regarding articles, maybe Women in horror genre and/or List of women in horror genre? BTW, if you think more time is needed to get this all sorted out (including a Wikidata redlist), perhaps move the event to October (tie it in with Halloween)? --Rosiestep (talk) 13:16, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
 * The red list is up and ready - This is just an additional bit that long term I'd like to fix.. I'd only move the event if it was too much but Women in Horror month is February.  &#9749;  Antiqueight  chatter 14:50, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
 * But they don't all roll up to the same parent categories and I'm not sure - can there be multiple parent categories? If there was a could these all be subcategories of it? So that if there was a woman who worked in horror (ie make up artist, costumer, letterer or something) which didn't exactly fit one of the other categories, they could be added to the parent one? And one could navigate from one women in horror category to another more easily to find all the women working in horror rather than having to search for multiple different headings? I think, that's what I mean - I'm not familiar with categories so I'm not sure what is possible and what isn't. I can dig further and experiment but I thought it someone already knows the answer that would be better...   &#9749;  Antiqueight  chatter 12:01, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
 * , I'm not an expert in this area, so I'm not sure what the best naming convention would be. That said, might work as a subcat of ; adding  for their opinion as they are expert in category structures. Regarding articles, maybe Women in horror genre and/or List of women in horror genre? BTW, if you think more time is needed to get this all sorted out (including a Wikidata redlist), perhaps move the event to October (tie it in with Halloween)? --Rosiestep (talk) 13:16, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
 * The red list is up and ready - This is just an additional bit that long term I'd like to fix.. I'd only move the event if it was too much but Women in Horror month is February.  &#9749;  Antiqueight  chatter 14:50, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
 * , I'm not an expert in this area, so I'm not sure what the best naming convention would be. That said, might work as a subcat of ; adding  for their opinion as they are expert in category structures. Regarding articles, maybe Women in horror genre and/or List of women in horror genre? BTW, if you think more time is needed to get this all sorted out (including a Wikidata redlist), perhaps move the event to October (tie it in with Halloween)? --Rosiestep (talk) 13:16, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
 * The red list is up and ready - This is just an additional bit that long term I'd like to fix.. I'd only move the event if it was too much but Women in Horror month is February.  &#9749;  Antiqueight  chatter 14:50, 24 January 2020 (UTC)

et. al.: I'm not sure there's precedent for a category dedicated to women (or men) in a single genre across media; we tend to categorize people by media (as in, for instance) instead. And not being a horror fan, I'm not really sure where to begin, I'm afraid - I'm sorry I can't be of more help. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 16:14, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
 * , I see the crowd-sourced list you created for horror: WikiProject Women in Red/Horror. Did you/someone create a Wikidata redlist? If not,, can you please help? Specifically, looking for a list that includes women whose Wikidata item contains one of these genres: horror fiction (Q16575965) , horror film (Q200092) , survival horror (Q333967) , comedy horror (Q224700) , psychological horror (Q604725) , horror literature (Q193606) , horror punk (Q830325) , horrorcore (Q1139136) , splatter film (Q909586) , horror anime and manga (Q12767035) , horror novel (Q20667180) , Horror (Q68182187) , body horror (Q3641550) , horror television (Q20220309) , Japanese horror (Q2584671) , horror and terror (Q1543778) , horror short story (Q15919135) , horror video game (Q11338014) , horror comic (Q5905220) , and/or etc.? Really appreciate it. --Rosiestep (talk) 20:48, 25 January 2020 (UTC)
 * You caught me while I was online paying some bills, so any excuse to procrastinate that. I'm playing around with a list here: WikiProject Women in Red/Horror/Wikidata  Gamaliel  ( talk ) 21:33, 25 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks,, I didn't know how to tackle that - I must learn, though not tonight.  &#9749;  Antiqueight  chatter 23:33, 25 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks, . I was surprised that there are only 13 items. Perhaps there are more women associated with the horror genre, but their Wikidata items lack a horror genre. Oh well. --Rosiestep (talk) 02:58, 26 January 2020 (UTC)
 * I assumed the same thing, their items must lack genre values. I'll experiment with some other ways of expanding the list.  Gamaliel  ( talk ) 03:18, 26 January 2020 (UTC)

Firming up for February
I think we need to focus at least on Black History Month, Explorers and Sub-Saharan Africa. Perhaps it would be sufficient to provide links to Women in horror and Wiki Loves Folklore, especially as the latter focuses on images.--Ipigott (talk) 11:39, 24 January 2020 (UTC)


 * Certainly agree about focusing on Black History Month, Explorers and Sub-Saharan Africa.
 * states we are being invited to the Wikipedia Wiki Loves Folklore initiative, e.g. create/improve articles. It runs through March 31. (The WikiCommons Wiki Loves Folklore initiative is something else.) I suggest we move this event to March, and include the redlist (WikiProject Women in Red/Missing articles by occupation/Folklorists) with our Art+Feminism event as folklore, broadly construed, could be considered a form of artistic expression.
 * As for "horror", I hadn't been aware previously that there was such a thing as Women in Horror Month https://www.womeninhorrormonth.com/, "an international grassroots initiative", but as there is, maybe we'd get some publicity through our participation.
 * Five new events -plus our Sports initiative and #1day1woman initiative is a lot- more than we've ever done before. So (a) I will support consensus, and (b) I am curious about how we might establish statistics around "too many events". CC: whose maths skills outperform mine. --Rosiestep (talk) 17:43, 25 January 2020 (UTC)


 * Not sure I can apply my maths skills here. Black history is expected and I've been noting that we would be doing it on Twitter. Sub-Saharan Africa is complementary and explorers will add some variety. The issue with too many editathons is the administation cost and the danger of holdinmg an editathon where there a pathetic number of new articles / one lonely contributor. Would adding a Wiki loves Folklore image list work to WIR-150 create a focus?... and then Horror could run if we have volunteers to set up the pages. On a related issue we have a volunteer on Twitter who is aiming to Tweet our top editors contributions - this should give thanks to our loyal contributors. Victuallers (talk) 18:22, 25 January 2020 (UTC)


 * I think we should keep to Black history, Explorers and Sub-Saharan Africa. Including more will upset the focus and all three provide extensive opportunities. As for the other events, we can always announce them on our main WiR page, discuss them on our talk page or return to them later.--Ipigott (talk) 07:17, 26 January 2020 (UTC)


 * Unless any of you have further comments on this, I'll try to make a start on the meetup pages today or tomorrow.--Ipigott (talk) 08:24, 27 January 2020 (UTC) ✅ Victuallers (talk) 10:26, 27 January 2020 (UTC)


 * I think three or four challenges in a month is probably enough (writing as someone who aims to contribute at least one stub to every editathon each month) ... but there must be a lot of interesting and notable female characters in folklore, as well as the folklorists, who could be included in our ongoing WIR-150. Perhaps a footnote in the monthly announcement, reminding people that they can always include any women in WIR-150 project, and mentioning the existence of the Folklore month? Pam  D  11:21, 27 January 2020 (UTC)


 * I'd like a meet up page for horror so I can point to the people responsible for the Women in Horror month to it and try to get them more involved though I see it as part of a long term goal rather than necessarily something which will get huge uptake this year specifically. But if it seems like there are too many things going on, I can adjust the list page and point them to that either, I don't want to create a meetup page if it's not appropriate... I have plans for women in gaming and such too...Generally I will row in with whatever the group decides (and go my own way where I believe it fits ;-) )  &#9749;  Antiqueight  chatter 13:52, 27 January 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm good with whatever the consensus is, but with 2 year-long initiatives, seems to me that more than 3 monthly events is an awful lot. I'll be mostly working on as per usual Caribbean women, so my focus is fairly narrow for the month. SusunW (talk) 14:34, 27 January 2020 (UTC)


 * I was trying to imagine combining folklore and horror, but it keeps on turning out as an intersection rather than union. Can someone make that idea work? Right now, I only see Folklorists and ethnomusicologists (WD) and Women in Horror (CS) so maybe we need to create a Women in Folklore(CS)(expanded/subcategories WD) and Women in Horror(WD), even if we do only one. StrayBolt (talk) 17:00, 27 January 2020 (UTC)
 * There is a Women in Horror(WD) but it's very short. It's linked on the (CS) page currently.  &#9749;  Antiqueight  chatter 17:34, 27 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Recently there's been a lot of good books published examining women in writing and creating horror. My own library has purchased a few of these and if anyone needs resources for that sort of thing, I'm here to help! Megalibrarygirl (talk) 17:14, 27 January 2020 (UTC)
 * I know surprisingly little about horror BUT I would like to look into creating an article on women in horror and such books might be an advantage but I am hoping to cajole someone who actually likes horror more than me to write it instead!!  &#9749;  Antiqueight  chatter 17:34, 27 January 2020 (UTC)
 * As you know, I always support consensus and I will in this case, too. I also think that to the extent possible, we should favor current events brought to our attention by the greater wiki community vs. an event already listed in a given month just for the sake of doing it. So let's consider these 3 events: Black History Month (which will actually include sub-Saharan Africa), Explorers, and Horror? Merge Folklore into our March A+F event (e.g. include Folklore redlists on our meetup page), if you feel that Folklore in general might be considered a form of artistic expression. --Rosiestep (talk) 17:55, 27 January 2020 (UTC)
 * I think folklore would be best on its own. There's so many different kinds, from different countries and eras that's it's very expansive. I think Horror as a genre is relatively new (not to say there aren't horror aspects to many older stories). But women are really very involved with Horror and not given their due (natch). I get where is coming from... I love sci fi, but horror is too much me. :) Megalibrarygirl (talk) 17:49, 28 January 2020 (UTC)


 * I've prepared the pages and templates for #152, #154 and #155. If everything is OK, one of you can perhaps prepare and distribute the invitations over the next couple of days.--Ipigott (talk) 13:37, 28 January 2020 (UTC)
 * I'll make them today. I should have time. :) Megalibrarygirl (talk) 17:46, 28 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Invite: WikiProject Women in Red/Outreach/2020
 * Thanks for creating the meetup pages and talkpage templates, . The invite is ready to go, ; if you have time to MassMessage, that would be great! --Rosiestep (talk) 18:02, 28 January 2020 (UTC)
 * ✅ :) Megalibrarygirl (talk) 19:32, 28 January 2020 (UTC)
 * -  &#9749;  Antiqueight  chatter 23:32, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

March 2020

 * March 8 is International Woman's Day
 * March is Women's History Month

Annual event: Art+Feminism collaboration

 * Annual content collaboration with m:Art+Feminism
 * --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 15:23, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Note, A+F will focus on Artists and Activists in 2020. This has been WiR focus all along so no change for us. --Rosiestep (talk) 16:50, 17 November 2019 (UTC)

Team Wiki Loves Love is organizing the international Commons contest and a parallel Wikipedia contest on Folklore and gender. Last year, Wiki Loves Love organized the contest on rituals, ceremonies and festivals in different cultures on Wikimedia Commons and the Wikipedia part of the campaign supported the gender aspect of the ceremonies and festivals where we got over 1000 articles in 27 languages. This year, we are organizing the contest in folklore theme, and to add the gender gap aspect, we will be working on the list of personalities - female and queer people in folk culture, folk art, folk music, folk dance, folk games, folklore and gender topics, women in folklore mythologies of the world, women warriors in folklore, witches and the witch hunting, and the other relevant topics concerning gender with folklore. Wiki Loves Women South Asia and Le San Pages are participating in the project. We would like to collaborate with Women in Red for English Wikipedia. There is a lot of missing pages concerning this very interesting topic. It would be a collaboration producing a very good result for the global English community that wishes to participate in the folklore. Looking forward to this collaboration. Wikilover90 (talk) 18:03, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Wiki Loves Folklore
 * There's going to be an edit-a-thon at the American Folklife Center of the Library of Congress on February 8: https://www.loc.gov/folklife/events/index.html#wiki That might dovetail nicely with this. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 16:16, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
 * I am hearing from Telegram channels that the Wiki Loves Folklore is both a Wikipedia initiative and a Wikicommons initiative. I've asked their coordinators to provide clarification here if they are trying to engage our participation. --Rosiestep (talk) 19:02, 25 January 2020 (UTC)


 * To add into this, I would like to clarify that the Wiki Loves Folklore is also organizing a parallel contest, but we would like WikiProject Women in Red to be our collaborative Project partners on English Wikipedia Contest, like Le Sans Pages running on French Wikipedia and Project:Wiki Loves Women South Asia running in South Asia in 15 langauge editions. The Commons contest is run by international community of Wikimedia Commons which is a separate contest but the Wikipedia one, focusses on the Culture and gender aspect of the edition. Also see, one of our project partners from NYC where onsite event at The Met was organized on 25th Januray, 2020. The wikipedia campaign will last from 25 January - 31 March. Hope this clarifies! Wikilover90 (talk) 19:02, 25 January 2020 (UTC)


 * As folklore could be considered a type of art form, e.g. folk music, folk art, folk stories, I'm moving this section from February (where it was a late suggestion) into March, so that we include folklore redlists in our A+F event page. --Rosiestep (talk) 16:59, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

Redlists

 * Art+Feminism list of articles needing improvement

Crowd-sourced lists:


 * activists
 * art
 * architecture
 * dance
 * feminists
 * social workers
 * suffragists
 * leadership

Wikidata lists:


 * activists
 * artists
 * art critics
 * art historians
 * architects
 * cartoonists
 * feminists
 * folklorists
 * illustrators
 * painters
 * photographers
 * sculptors
 * suffragists
 * trade unionists

Wikidata lists of painters by country of citizenship:


 * Austria
 * Belgium
 * France
 * Germany
 * Japan
 * Netherlands
 * Norway
 * Russia
 * Spain
 * Sweden
 * UK
 * Uruguay
 * US
 * Rest of world
 * Country unknown & born before 1930
 * Country unknown & born after 1929
 * Country & date of birth unknown

Annual event: VisibleWikiWomen (WikiCommons) collaboration

 * Annual photo collaboration with m:Whose Knowledge?. --Rosiestep (talk) 18:42, 10 January 2020 (UTC)

Women Of Aviation Worldwide Week (WOAW)
It will be the 110th anniversary of the world's first female pilot license issued to Raymonde de Laroche and is celebrated with Aviation Week. The last event was December 2016. StrayBolt (talk) 00:27, 22 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi . Thanks for the suggestion. However, I think we need to move this focus to another month, as March is historically reserved for Art+Feminism (articles) and VisibleWikiWomen (photos). Also, would you please add links to any supporting redlists you would suggest using for an aviation event (see Index here)? Appreciate it. --Rosiestep (talk) 18:03, 27 January 2020 (UTC)
 * okay. Sometimes there are additional events with other annual events. I was looking for 100th anniversaries, but I found a 10-year old article and listed it anyway. There is a CS and WD list in the Dec 2016 event. I didn't search for any additional lists. StrayBolt (talk) 01:04, 28 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Redlists:
 * WD: WikiProject Women in Red/Missing articles by occupation/Aviators
 * CS: WikiProject Women in Red/Aviation
 * , I keep learning new things. I didn't know there was such a thing as Women Of Aviation Worldwide Week (WOAW) and that the world’s first female pilot's license was issued on March 8, 1910. March 8 is also celebrated as International Women's Day, so I agree that it makes sense to keep this event in March. --Rosiestep (talk) 17:24, 28 January 2020 (UTC)
 * , thanks for the support. There was a June 2019 event, Space, but it looks like the focus wasn't Aerospace. In addition to the WD (180 redlinks) and CS (~120 redlinks), there is the Timeline of women in aviation (~93 redlinks). Perhaps the WD list of occupations could be expanded. The event could be promoted on WOAW Activities. StrayBolt (talk) 20:26, 28 January 2020 (UTC)
 * , regarding all the women's redlinks on Timeline of women in aviation, it's a great list, and all the women's names appear to be notable, so they should all have a Wikidata item in order to appear on the Wikidata redlist. Do you have time/inclination to add names to Wikidata if the name lacks an item?
 * Regarding "the WD list of occupations could be expanded", not sure I follow; please clarify?
 * Indeed, the event should be promoted on WOAW Activities; hopefully you could help with that, too?
 * I hope you understand why I'm asking if you (or a team that you rally together) will take on these tasks: I have so many other wiki responsibilities (e.g. AffCom) that I lack bandwidth to give sufficient attention to individual events. --Rosiestep (talk) 21:27, 28 January 2020 (UTC)
 * I imagine there is some overlap between the 3 lists (guessing 250-300 unique), so I would include the Timeline after the usual WD&CS on the Meetup and then have a post update to WD or CS with what redlinks are left after the event. StrayBolt (talk) 23:04, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

Geofocus: The Great Britain/Ireland Destubathon
Copying here a message left on my talkpage:— "The The Great Britain/Ireland Destubathon is planned for March 2020, a contest/editathon to eliminate as many stubs as possible from all 134 counties. Amazon vouchers/book prizes are planned for most articles destubbed from England, Wales, Scotland and Ireland and Northern Ireland and whoever destubs articles from the most counties out of the 134. Sign up on page if interested in participating, hope this will prove to be good fun and productive, we have over 44,000 stubs! If we can get an extra prize for whoever improves the most British and Irish women bios and perhaps allow creations for that we can kill two birds with on stone." --Rosiestep (talk) 15:13, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

Firming up for March
With February being a short month, even with 29 days, I thought we might want to get a jump on sorting out our March priorities. Are we ok with what's been proposed above?: --Rosiestep (talk) 01:33, 16 February 2020 (UTC)
 * 1) Art+Feminism, including Wiki Loves Folklore as a part of the initiative
 * 2) aviation
 * 3) geofocus: The Great Britain/Ireland Destubathon
 * 4) Visiblewikiwomen (images/photos)


 * We should also remind participants that the A+F theme this year is Art+Activism and provide pertinent redlink lsts as well as those on folklore. While I fully support the Great Britain/Ireland Destubathon, as Women in Red primarily sets out to create rather than improve content, I think we should focus on new articles on Great Britain and Ireland rather than just destubbing. In this connection we should provide the pertinent WiRredlists rather than lists of articles to be destubbed. Otherwise fine with me. Pity A+F does not recognize Women in Red under its "Related Wikipedia projects" on its Resources page. Over the years we've been pretty active in supporting their cause.--Ipigott (talk) 11:25, 16 February 2020 (UTC)


 * that sounds great. thanks. --Sm8900 (talk) 12:34, 16 February 2020 (UTC)

would you please review these meetup pages, and make any corrections or improvements that you wish. Note, I think #159 could use further clarification but not sure what to say, e.g. there will be images added to #156, 157, and 158, plus to our #1day1woman and Sports Initiative that should be included, right?


 * Art+Activists & Folklore: WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/156 / Template:WIR-156:
 * Aviation: WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/157 / Template:WIR-157:
 * Geofocus on Great Britain and Ireland: WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/158 / Template:WIR-158:
 * Visible Wiki Women: WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/159 / Template:WIR-159:

Not created yet: the the invite and all of the talkpage templates. --Rosiestep (talk) 21:04, 19 February 2020 (UTC)


 * Coming in a bit late, it seems to me that "Art+Feminism and Folklore" is an odd combination, despite trying to shoehorn folklore into "art". Perhaps might be better as two distinct editathons, and instead of the destubathon we could remind our members that any destubbed/improved article is included in the year-long 150 #1day1woman? But then we wouldn't have a geofocus for March. Hmm. Just some thoughts. Pam D  23:20, 19 February 2020 (UTC)


 * It's always a balancing act, but I'd be supportive of making this change, . What do others think? --Rosiestep (talk) 23:39, 19 February 2020 (UTC)


 * Did you want to mention #IWD2020 or use this year's tag #EachForEqual in any of the Meetups or for the announcement? Is there a way to list an online/internet event instead of a country on their event page? StrayBolt (talk) 02:09, 20 February 2020 (UTC)


 * , good idea. Please add one or both to each event/meetup page... whatever you or others think is appropriate. I'm traveling so really could use some help with all of this. BTW, the WMF wants to feature some/all of our events on one of their new campaign pages; ) are also in the loop if someone is looking for details. Let's finalize events as soon as possible please. --Rosiestep (talk) 14:01, 20 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Sorry, have had a housefull of people. I think folklore fits well with art in the broadest sense and am happy to see 4 events, as usually for March we have just the one. As always, will go with whatever consensus is reached. SusunW (talk) 14:34, 20 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Looks good to me Victuallers (talk) 16:55, 20 February 2020 (UTC)
 * I agree. I think it looks good. I'll make the templates and other things. :) Megalibrarygirl (talk) 17:50, 20 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Looks like things have been finalized. Thanks for that. Shall I MassMessage? --Rosiestep (talk) 12:52, 23 February 2020 (UTC)


 * Thanks for all your efforts. Pity you didn't ping me earlier -- I'm just looking at these for the first time now. I note that Wiki Loves Folklore ends on 29 February. Maybe to avoid confusion it would be better to delete it from the main heading of #156 although it could still be included in the description. Perhaps also remove folklore from the invitation. In connection with VisibleWikiWomen, it may be useful to add a reminder under the "Outcomes (media)" sections of the other meetup pages as most of us create images on Commons to support our articles. Otherwise everything looks fine. I'll try to add further links to the redlists sections but I can do that after the invitations have gone out. Sorry to be so late with my reactions.--Ipigott (talk) 14:15, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
 * P.S. Not sure about the template for #159. This is for images, not for articles.--Ipigott (talk) 14:23, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
 * , I think we'll keep Folklore as we've made the commitment to the Wiki Loves Love team that we'll participate in March in their Wiki Loves Folklore campaign (and I told the WMF Comms Team the same). Regarding VisibleWikiWomen and template #159, please do make the updates you mention, plus whatever else might catch your eye. I'll get the MassMessage out today. Thanks, and sorry for not including your name. I used a list of names created by you from "Firming up for February" but forgot to add your name. Mea culpa. --Rosiestep (talk) 18:37, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Sorry I was offline, I think the Mass Message is ready. :) Megalibrarygirl (talk) 19:00, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
 * No worries, . I've sent the Mass Message. --Rosiestep (talk) 19:34, 23 February 2020 (UTC)


 * Sorry, my mistake. I see that for new articles Wiki Loves Folklore lasts until 31 March. It's only the photography contest that ends on 29 February. So everything is in order.--Ipigott (talk) 20:38, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
 * I wonder whether the page about 158 rather underplays the destubathon: we've said "Women in Red is collaborating with the The Great Britain/Ireland Destubathon by providing an opportunity for you to create or improve articles on past or present women who were born in ..." (ah, there's an extra "the" in there too), but nothing more. Could we add a sentence: "The destubathon aims to improve existing stubs by expanding them, usually to at least 1200 bytes of readable prose. You are invited to register as a participant in the destubathon and record your "destubbed" articles both on this page and on the destubathon outcomes pages.", and possibly under "Outcomes" have a separate section for "Stubs expanded for the destubathon"? Pam  D  21:27, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Fixed the duplicate "the". Pam  D  21:29, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks,, and sure; go for it! Make whatever changes you think will improve the page, make things clearer, and/or etc. --Rosiestep (talk) 22:05, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
 * OK,, I've added a short paragraph about the destubathon to the 158 page, encouraging editors to get involved in it as well as in our editathon and to list outcomes in both places. Pam  D  23:29, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Appreciated, thank you all.♦ Dr. Blofeld  08:49, 24 February 2020 (UTC)


 * I know it's too late now as our March schedule invitation has already been distributed, but let's consider adding m:WikiGap to our March calendar next year as an Annual Event as many people are emailing me about it. --Rosiestep (talk) 21:29, 24 February 2020 (UTC)
 * I see from here that they are nearly all in languages other than English. In due course, it might be interesting to ask the Swedes for a report on their efforts. If we plan for something next year, it might be interesting to see whether we can work together on new articles for countries in Africa or Asia in both the local languages and English. (cc )--Ipigott (talk) 12:33, 25 February 2020 (UTC)
 * I saw this only now. Thansk for cc-ing, ! Our main problem has been that in many of the events, people also want to write in English (because they are international students without knowledge of the local language, or because they know of an article in their mother tongue that doesn't exist in English, etc.), whereas the local hosts are not prepared or don't know how to facilitate an editathon on English language Wikipedia. I think it would be very fruitful to have a discussion on how to best help local hosts outside of the English-speaking word with hosting editathons with people editing on English language Wikipedia, and that also outside of the WikiGap context. That being said, in our event in Gothenburg, 1/3 of the signed up so far have committed to writing in English. Eric Luth (WMSE) (talk) 10:20, 2 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks for getting back on this. Let's keep in touch. You can perhaps keep us posted on developments promoted by the Swedes in the African countries and let us know if there's anything we can do to assist.--Ipigott (talk) 11:02, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

Annual event: Gender Studies
I see we were able to list 33 articles last year. If we go for it again this year, we should aim for many more. We need to expand our crowd-sourced list, adding more links both to historical contributors and recent researchers. It would also be useful to include some of the evolving "gender gaps", e.g. those resulting from the electronic information age, including Wikipedia itself. The topic is frequently covered in the print media as well as on radio and TV. More background on gender studies is of course useful for guiding future orientations for Women in Red.--Ipigott (talk) 08:03, 29 February 2020 (UTC)
 * I spent most of the day working on the list WikiProject Women in Red/Missing articles by occupation/Gender Studies. It'd be lovely if others can help, but I am working on it, as to my mind, it is a critical topic for WiR to cover. SusunW (talk) 00:12, 17 March 2020 (UTC)
 * I just added a couple of Australians in Wikidata and will double-back later to search for more. Oronsay (talk) 02:23, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

Dance
It has been noted that we are missing many topics on Ballet, Concert dance, Performance dance etc. I want to put it in for next year but I thought I'd ask for input here first. See if anyone has any suggestions or ideas about it. I haven't looked to see what is in Wikidata etc.  &#9749;  Antiqueight  chatter 13:20, 18 October 2019 (UTC)
 * We had a WIR Dance editathon in July 2017, but we could certainly use another! Penny Richards (talk) 14:07, 18 October 2019 (UTC)
 * We also need set designers and costume designers for all performances, not just dance performances. Jane (talk) 17:37, 18 October 2019 (UTC)
 * I see that someone has put it on for April 2020 and suggest you move this discussion up there so we don't end up with it scheduled twice, or worse, missed. I'd certainly support it. SusunW (talk) 20:42, 18 October 2019 (UTC)
 * - that was me, I thought it hadn't saved and decided to ask here instead - but apparently it did save.. I've moved it up now..<em style="font-family: Kristen ITC; color:red">  &#9749;  Antiqueight  chatter
 * Renamed the header so that it's clearly inclusive of everything mentioned in this section. --Rosiestep (talk) 19:45, 21 December 2019 (UTC)
 * In 2017, we organised 2 editathons on dance in Brussels. We're potentially interested in doing more if it can be part of a broader initiative (e.g. international dance day) Beireke1 (talk) 08:08, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
 * I strongly support including dance once again. : I see that this year International Dance Day is on 29 April. It would be great if we could encourage wider participation and collaboration.--Ipigott (talk) 07:42, 29 February 2020 (UTC)
 * I got a bit flattened trying to do the Women in Horror and a course at work. But I survived. Sorry for not being around more. I totally think this is a good idea and will put some time into collecting names and creating a page for them. April still seems like a good month for it (especially as I won't be travelling as well now -sniff) If we are happy to do this in April I will start work on advertising it now? I had hoped to get more work done for Art+ but I ran out of spoons. I suspect I may only be good for pushing something every other month or so..<em style="font-family: Kristen ITC; color:red">  &#9749;  Antiqueight  chatter 22:43, 2 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks for creating the page on dance! I'm afraid that due to COVID, many International Dance Day activities will have to be cancelled. It could be an opportunity to push this project as an alternative. Thinking of our situation in Belgium, it would be interesting to display the links to the articles in other languages than English in the lists. At this moment, it just indicates how many there are. The threshold to start translating an existing article in another language into English would be lower if people immediately see which language version they could start from. Beireke1 (talk) 14:56, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
 * ,, , , , We are setting up an initiative in Flanders to encourage people to write pages on female dancers, choreographers,... both in English and Dutch. I started a project page in Dutch. Any ideas for an optimal tuning of these initiatives in Dutch and English (and maybe other languages) are welcome! Beireke1 (talk) 19:49, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
 * , it's wonderful to hear about the campaign for articles on Dutch Wikipedia. Maybe you can find a way to link the two language Wikipedia meetup pages so that people are aware of multiple activities? --Rosiestep (talk) 19:58, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Our Dutch project page (under construction) already links to the English meetup page. Feel free to do this as well in the other direction of course. Beireke1 (talk) 12:01, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Why not add the names of your new and revised Dutch articles on dance to our crowd-sourced redlist on dance, and/or add them directly to our meetup page under "Add other red links here, if possible with a source". We'll then be able to adapt them for the EN wiki if they appear sufficiently notable. Maybe you could even create some of the English articles yourself?--Ipigott (talk) 09:05, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
 * , I will! Beireke1 (talk) 12:01, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

Geofocus: Microstates or Caucasus?
We can recover the geofocus on "Microstates" that was made in July 2019 or "Caucasus" in January 2019. Both of them were really interesting What do you think? I regret that my contributions are very minor lately, but I am especially busy. Greetings. Alsoriano97 (talk) 21:03, 28 January 2020 (UTC)
 * My vote would be for "Caucasus"! (Lajmmoore (talk) 11:12, 17 February 2020 (UTC))
 * Mine too.--Ipigott (talk) 08:10, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

VisibleWikiWomen

 * Should we extend our VisibleWikiWomen to run in April too? I see from here that it actually runs until 8 May. If so, we could perhaps change the dates on #159.--Ipigott (talk) 07:34, 29 February 2020 (UTC)
 * , good idea. Can you please make the change? Thank you. --

Firming up for April
;New * Gender studies: WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/160 * Dance: Wikipedia: WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/161 * Geofocus Caucasus: WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/162 ;Continuing * #1day1woman: WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/150 * Sports: WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/151 * VisibleWikiWomen: WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/159 * April invite: WikiProject Women in Red/Outreach/2020 Is there now general agreement on Gender Studies, Dance and Caucasus? If so, I can start creating the meetup pages over the next couple of days.--Ipigott (talk) 11:50, 21 March 2020 (UTC)
 * It's a yes for me! Stay safe everyone and stay home!. Alsoriano97 (talk) 12:40, 21 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Agree! --Rosiestep (talk) 13:49, 21 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Sounds good to me. SusunW (talk) 14:20, 21 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Sure! Penny Richards (talk) 14:23, 21 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Agree! I must look out some more Gender Studies people to add. Oronsay (talk) 19:08, 21 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Sounds good! Let me know how I can help, ! Megalibrarygirl (talk) 19:18, 21 March 2020 (UTC)


 * I've created the meetup pages. Maybe there can be some improvements to the redlink listings. Otherwise the invitation can be sent out whenever you wish.--Ipigott (talk) 15:00, 22 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Invite is now done, too. Would someone please review all the meetup pages and the invite; make any corrections/improvements; and then one of us can MassMessage. Thank you. --Rosiestep (talk) 16:08, 22 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Regarding the Caucasus meetup page, would it be appropriate to add redlists for the "Related areas" of Iran and Turkey, plus the "Partially recognized countries" of Abkhazia, Artsakh, and South Ossetia? These additional locations are mentioned in the Caucasus infobox but I am not an expert on this matter, ergo the question. --Rosiestep (talk) 16:34, 22 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks for preparing the invitation. I see it contains a link to Instagram but the link produces "DYK that 17.89% of the English #Wikipedia's biogs are about women?" I think it would be good to update the percentage to the current value of 18.27%. Can you fix it?--Ipigott (talk) 09:23, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
 * done. Do you think everything else is ok? Should I MassMessage today? --Rosiestep (talk) 14:36, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
 * I think we have all the basics. We can always add to the meetup pages over the next few days. But it might be useful to send the invitation out today if you have time.--Ipigott (talk) 14:46, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Alrighty; the invitation has been MassMessaged. --Rosiestep (talk) 15:02, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Sorry I've been absent, we've been moving to working from home and it's not really all that easy. I hope to take on that Dance section like mad in April.<em style="font-family: Kristen ITC; color:red">  &#9749;  Antiqueight  chatter 15:24, 23 March 2020 (UTC)

Annual event: Geofocus: CEE
The 2020 campaign runs 21 March – May 31. Official page with all the details: m:Wikimedia CEE Spring 2020. --Rosiestep (talk) 13:54, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

Women and their animals
I've been thinking about this for a while and I think it could be fun. Zookeepers, veterinarians, cowgirls, farmers/ranchers, dog/horse/bird trainers, wildlife conservationists, painters who paint animals, etc. Seems really broad to me. Not really sure how we go about making lists, but if there is interest, we can figure that out. SusunW (talk) 23:07, 1 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Nice idea! Alsoriano97 (talk) 21:04, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

Healthcare
Firstly apologies if I am not entitled to edit this listing and should communicate in another way, but May 2020 signals the 200 year celebrations of the birth of Florence Nightingale - this could be a topic to look at her achievements again, at other redlinked notable women in nursing, nurse education, para-medical research, health and hygiene, overseas aid, statistics and lobbying to name but a few of her attributes. Please take this suggestion in good faith. There will be events happening all over the world of nursing, probably, for example (declared interest, I am a former Nightingale nurse but not practicing) https://thenightingalefellowship.org.uk/2020-celebrations-on-the-bicentenary-of-florence-nightingales-birth/. Kaybeesquared (talk) 21:18, 23 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Of course you're allowed here!! Maybe we could extend this to Florence Nightingale medal winners and nurses.... or try and aim for the top 100 women icons... nomination to the list would be by adding a nomination to the list whose article had been improved or checked. If we separated nominations by continent or language then this might highlight that we want to avoid having 98 living anglophones, Marie Curie and Mother Teresa. Victuallers (talk) 18:30, 25 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Only thing I could see as a problem is we'd want to be a little proactive about explaining WP:MEDRS, as there is a possibility of things like naturopathic and homeopathic getting mixed in, and, while WiR doesn't and shouldn't call for every women's biography to be of a hero, we do need to treat their achievements well and fairly, against standards of when they operated. Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 7.3% of all FPs 22:01, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
 * As the weeks go by, we should begin to get a better appreciation of women associated with healthcare who have contributed strongly to fighting Covid-19. I therefore suggest the focus should simply be healthcare, although nurses should be a major component. In the meantime, we should be adding to redlists--Ipigott (talk) 07:10, 27 March 2020 (UTC)


 * , specially if extended to all workers in healthcare. --MarioGom (talk) 14:50, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Maybe the section, should be merged into this? StrayBolt (talk) 15:23, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
 * It would be practical to extend this to all healthcare workers, not limited to nurses. It would be timely if we cover this focus in May and include healthcare workers associated with COVID-19. --Rosiestep (talk) 22:40, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Here is the Women in Healthcare Oct 2017 event for reference. StrayBolt (talk) 23:22, 26 April 2020 (UTC)

COVID-19
Hello! I was wondering if WIR might consider running an April edit-a-thon related (loosely) to the 2019–20 coronavirus pandemic. It could include women in STEM and medicine. The scope could also include improving articles on women in this growing list of people with coronavirus disease 2019 (some are redlinked or stubs) and any other women-related articles in the scope of the new WikiProject COVID-19. Many women politicians and policymakers are playing vital roles in combating this world health crisis. I thought it may help combat the spread of misinformation. Best, TJMSmith (talk) 19:24, 15 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Might this be a two-month, combining it with May's suggestion: Nurses (or healthcare workers?) Maybe generically, "Health". StrayBolt (talk) 21:06, 15 March 2020 (UTC)
 * That sounds like a good option and integrates well with 's nurse/healthcare worker suggestion. TJMSmith (talk) 21:49, 15 March 2020 (UTC)

I started a crowd-sourced redlink/stub list of women related to COVID-19: WikiProject Women in Red/COVID-19. TJMSmith (talk) 22:37, 15 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Sooner or later we should cover this but I think April is premature. The Coronavirus crisis has just begun and it will probably be several months before it shows signs of receding, at least in the western world. I suggest we hold off until June or July when there might be some reasonable perspective and more background on the women who have played a major part in dealing with the politics, social repercussions or the health issues. We could use April and May to expand pertinent lists of redlinks, although I am not too happy about expanding "Women diagnosed with COVID-19". I don't want to sound morbid but there might well be a number of obituaries we could draw on too. As a senior septuagenarian, I would prefer to see the light at the end of the tunnel before we make this a priority.--Ipigott (talk) 14:42, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Moved this suggestion to "other ideas" section until we sort out which month might be best. --Rosiestep (talk) 15:08, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
 * I would advise against including "women diagnosed with COVID-19". The original list was deleted (AfD) and there is a growing consensus against creating new articles for people who is only notable for COVID-19 diagnostic or death, per WP:BLP1E and WP:NOTMEMORIAL. Most of the articles created under this criterion would probably be deleted. --MarioGom (talk) 11:53, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

May Mays
I loved this event when we did it previously... it sounds so cheerful. Perhaps we should consider it for this year, too? Wikidata lists: (women named "May") (816 articles) / (born in the month of May) (1601 articles). I think it was idea originally so pinging him. --Rosiestep (talk) 15:32, 13 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Maybe for a variation, May Marys (and Marias, Maries, Maris, etc.). Or call it, "In the Mary Mary Month of May." ;) Penny Richards (talk) 20:34, 13 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Good idea. See Mary (name) for further variations.--Ipigott (talk) 09:31, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Nice one. Wikidata query here. More variations should be added, including family names. The current query yields 38,640 results. --MarioGom (talk) 14:44, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
 * I don't know how we would grapple with 38,640 articles on 1 redlist. The 2 "May" redlists we already have total 2,417 articles. But I like the idea of "In the Mary Mary Month of May" as it sounds so 'happy', and I think we could all use a dose of that. I'll leave it to others to sort out how to proceed. --Rosiestep (talk) 22:49, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Then Maries born in May? It brings down the list to ~1,000. --MarioGom (talk) 10:16, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Maries born in May with more than 1 sitelink would be ~181. Maries with more than 1 sitelink would be ~3,210. --MarioGom (talk) 10:19, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
 * , I think Maries with more than 1 sitelink (~3,210) would be good, e.g. would offer editors a lot of options. --Rosiestep (talk) 14:02, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
 * +1, here's the redlink list: WikiProject Women in Red/Missing articles by name/Women named Mary. --MarioGom (talk) 17:11, 17 April 2020 (UTC)

Firming up for May 2020
NEW * Healthcare: WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/163 / WIR-163 * Women and their animals: WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/164 / WIR-164 * Geofocus: CEE countries: WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/165 / WIR-165 * May Mays: WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/166 / WIR-166 CONTINUING * #1day1woman: WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/150 / WIR-150 * Sports: WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/151 / WIR-151 MAY INVITE: WikiProject Women in Red/Outreach/2020

Have we agreed on the May events being: Geofocus/CEE, Women and their animals, Healthcare workers, and May Mays? If so, would someone please start creating the meetup pages (maybe 4 different editors can each create one)? I'll create the Invite. Who is available to send the MassMessage? Thanks. --Rosiestep (talk) 20:38, 26 April 2020 (UTC)
 * I don't know how to set up a meetup page, but I just started the May 2020 Editathons board on our Pinterest account. Penny Richards (talk) 21:25, 26 April 2020 (UTC)
 * all May ideas sound very good, but sorry can’t help run the virtual events; and prefer to do deceased people but so pleased to see health care workers as WiR targets! Thanks

Rosiestep Kaybeesquared (talk) 21:40, 26 April 2020 (UTC)
 * I suggest we start with Healthcare (not forgetting Corona). Then Women and their animals, Marys for May, and CEE. If there are no other volunteers, I'll put them together later.--Ipigott (talk) 05:51, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Sounds good! I don't know how to make the event pages - but I'd be happy to have a go at one, if there's instructions around? I don't have any additional editing powers though. (Lajmmoore (talk) 14:19, 27 April 2020 (UTC))
 * Looks good! I can put together one of them, let's say CEE. : did you get to create them already? --MarioGom (talk) 14:26, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
 * You know I am worthless at technical stuff. I'm a bit concerned about red lists. Are we still able to automatically generate them. I find only Ornithologists/Zoologists and stretching Paleontologists (you know dead animals?). Is it still possible to make lists for like Zookeepers, veterinarians, cowgirls, farmers/ranchers, dog/horse/bird trainers, wildlife conservationists, painters who paint animals? If we can't make the lists, maybe not worth it to run this one this month. SusunW (talk) 14:43, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
 * , there's also Zoologist subfields and Entomologists. I have created Veterinarians. MarioGom (talk) 16:57, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you I really appreciate the skills you technically-gifted people have. SusunW (talk) 17:18, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
 * It might also be useful to create a Wikidata redlist on "Animal trainer". It's listed there as Q8011071. I'll go ahead and create a meetup page for May anyway. It will be interesting to see how many new names people come up with, either in articles or as redlinks.--Ipigott (talk) 06:20, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
 * , : Ok, here's a couple more: Ranchers (includes cowgirls and other subtypes) and Animal trainers. MarioGom (talk) 08:44, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
 * , thanks for creating the Healthcare page. A friendly FYI that I've put in a request for a Wikidata healthcare worker redlist here and a request for a Wikidata COVID-19 women healthcare worker redlist here. --Rosiestep (talk) 09:16, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
 * , CEE in progress here. MarioGom (talk) 10:04, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
 * , awesome! A friendly FYI in case you aren't aware of it, here's a link to last year's meetup page, which might (or might not) be helpful: WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/121. Also, in case you are up for it, here's a link to last year's "May Mays" event page: WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/118 as a go-by. --Rosiestep (talk) 10:22, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
 * , I finished with redlists for CEE. already created May Maries. MarioGom (talk) 11:17, 28 April 2020 (UTC)

Thanks,, for your help with CEE and for creating more useful Wikidata redlists. I think the four new pages are more or less OK now although it would be useful if we could build up more crowd-sourced redlists for inclusion over the next couple of days. The one on Zoologists needs expanding. Nevertheless, it looks to me as if you could prepare and send out the invitation today. Despite the numbering, I think it would be best to place CEE last as is usual for Geofocus (as in the clickables and on the Events page).--Ipigott (talk) 11:45, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the lists. One more if possible? Equestrians? (That would fit with this category and also the year-long focus on sport too). I can try to help with crowd sourced lists, . SusunW (talk) 16:21, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
 * , sure: WikiProject Women in Red/Missing articles by occupation/Equestrians. --MarioGom (talk) 16:52, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Yay! Thank you so much, ! SusunW (talk) 16:58, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
 * , thanks for the Wikidata lists. Can you please add them to the Redlist index page? --Rosiestep (talk) 17:39, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Today is kind of an on and off day for me, but I may be able to send the invitations today. Megalibrarygirl (talk) 19:59, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
 * I added Florence Nightingale's 200th and WiR COVID-19 list to the Healthcare Meetup. StrayBolt (talk) 00:29, 29 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Is there still some problem with the arrangements for May? I thought everything was in order but with only a few hours to go before 1 May dawns in NZ and Australia, the invitations have still not gone out. Please let me know if there's anything I can do to sort things out.--Ipigott (talk) 20:12, 29 April 2020 (UTC)
 * , I think everything is fine. I thought that Megalibrarygirl was going to send out the invites, but I can do so now. --Rosiestep (talk) 20:51, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

Annual event: Pride

 * --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 15:23, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
 * I also support this initiative. It integrates well with WP:PRIDE. TJMSmith (talk) 21:51, 15 March 2020 (UTC)
 * --MarioGom (talk) 14:45, 16 April 2020 (UTC)

United Nations
The United Nations was chartered on 26 June 1945, 75 years ago. I estimate that there are hundreds of notable women who have worked or are currenly working for the UN and all its the sub-organizations.
 * --- Coffee  and crumbs  05:49, 2 June 2019 (UTC)
 * --Sm8900 (talk) 01:43, 26 January 2020 (UTC)


 * , the UN in general seems like a good idea as I don't think we've ever done an event based on an organization. In order to properly evaluate this as a possible event, it would be prudent to review the redlists, e.g. number of potential articles that participants could work on. Thanks. --Rosiestep (talk) 02:39, 26 January 2020 (UTC)
 * CS: WikiProject Women in Red/United Nations
 * WD: WikiProject Women in Red/Missing articles by organization/United Nations (currently missing; perhaps you could work with and/or other Wikidata specialists to get it created?)
 * We have lots of free to use donate images by UNCTAD on commons (and NONE by UN_Women Grrr). Victuallers (talk) 16:58, 20 February 2020 (UTC)


 * . Let's add all UN agencies too, like WHO or UNHCR. Given the current pandemic situation, I think there will be plenty of attention to WHO. --MarioGom (talk) 14:48, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
 * WikiProject Women in Red/Diplomats (CS) has women listed that work for the UN and affiliates. Would be nice to include them! Postcard Cathy (talk) 20:16, 30 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi, . I see there are crowd-sourced lists (UN Women, and Women Diplomats) but do you have links to the Wikidata redlists to support this editathon, including (yes please!) all those UN agencies? If they aren't created yet, would you please work with someone to get them created as June is only 9 days away? Thank you! --Rosiestep (talk) 19:16, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
 * , I really do not know how., can you help? --- C &amp; C (Coffeeandcrumbs) 19:39, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
 * I don’t know either. I just get notices already created articles have been connected to Wikidata.  I don’t even know who uses the information or why or even type of data is collected.  Postcard Cathy (talk) 20:02, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
 * No worries. I asked for assistance here: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Women in Red. --Rosiestep (talk) 20:47, 22 May 2020 (UTC)


 * New list: WikiProject Women in Red/Missing articles by organization/United Nations Gamaliel  ( talk ) 00:24, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks, ! --Rosiestep (talk) 01:30, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

Geofocus
Since this is the next free slot, I would like to propose a month dedicated to the countries with the most severe gender imbalance (see ). I think picking a few per continent would maximize the chances of catering the interests of different editors, so it could be: For the underlying data, see User:MarioGom/sandbox/Gender imbalance per country. --MarioGom (talk) 19:16, 22 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Africa: 🇬🇳 Guinea, 🇬🇼 Guinea-Bissau, 🇱🇾 Libya
 * Asia: 🇶🇦 Qatar, 🇸🇦 Saudi Arabia, 🇴🇲 Oman
 * Europe: 🇧🇦 Bosnia and Herzegovina, North Macedonia, 🇵🇹 Portugal
 * North America (although given the results it would make sense to say Central America and the Caribbean) : 🇦🇬 Antigua and Barbuda, 🇭🇳 Honduras, 🇩🇲 Dominica
 * South America: 🇵🇾 Paraguay, 🇺🇾 Uruguay, 🇧🇷 Brazil
 * Oceania: 🇹🇻 Tuvalu, 🇹🇴 Tonga, 🇻🇺 Vanuatu
 * I'd be really keen to support this. I thought this research was really interesting and useful & have the list of countries above my desk for general editing purposes already! (Lajmmoore (talk) 09:10, 31 March 2020 (UTC))
 * Hi, do we have Wikidata redlists for all of these countries? If not, can you please work with someone who is able to get them created? Thank you! --Rosiestep (talk) 19:18, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi yep - they all do! (Lajmmoore (talk) 06:38, 23 May 2020 (UTC))


 * What source are we using for this? Perhaps the best would be World Economic Forum's Global Gender Gap Report 2020 which in Table 1 gives "The Global Gender Gap Index 2020 ranking". We need to be very careful in selecting countries to be covered. For example Portugal (mentioned above) is in fact in 35th place, far above other European countries including Italy (76th), Russia (81st), Greece (84th), Hungary (105th) and Turkey (130th). We could run into serious trouble if we imply that certain countries are far worse than their world rankings. Many of those mentioned above are ranked quite positively. And what do we call it: "Countries with low gender balance ratings" or "Low gender balance" for short? Maybe it would be easier and less controversial if we picked the last 20 in the WEF rankings, i.e Egypt to Yemen in Table 1. --Ipigott (talk) 07:33, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
 * I don't think the assessment by is based on an external source, but on a query they ran on wikidata on gender imbalance in number of EN articles User:MarioGom/sandbox/Gender imbalance per country? the above list then goes to each continent based on the query. I agree though that there's some careful consideration about how it is worded. (Lajmmoore (talk) 08:26, 23 May 2020 (UTC))
 * Thanks for the clarification. It just shows how easy it is to be misled by a heading. If the focus is to be restricted to statistics from Wikidata such as those presented in 's well developed User:MarioGom/sandbox/Gender imbalance per country, then we need to make this very clear, especially as we are also covering United Nations women at the same time and we don't want to cause any diplomatic incidents. On the other hand, I think we might also consider focusing on countries experiencing gender balance problems in the real world. Maybe we could pool resources and cover deserving countries from both Wikidata and the WEF analysis? As a footnote, I find it surprising that China and North Korea (and also South Korea) are the countries with the best coverage of women on the EN wiki according to the Wikidata list, while the UK and USA have much lower ratings although they have far more biographies of women than any others. But this kind of thing is reflected in the WHGI list too.--Ipigott (talk) 10:21, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

Geofocus: Bottom 10 or similar
Alternatively, we could pick top N (e.g. 3) per continent: Note that I have counted intercontinental countries as present in both continents, and listed wherever they meet the cut.
 * As discussed previously (archive) we could focus a month on the most underrepresented countries. This was already done in August 2018 as Geofocus: Bottom 10. My proposal would be to pick the bottom countries by number of biographies of women born in the last 100 years with an article in the English Wikipedia proportional to current country population. This would be:
 * Bottom 10 (100 years, proportional to population, query): 🇸🇸 South Sudan, Democratic Republic of the Congo, 🇸🇩 Sudan, 🇾🇪 Yemen, 🇲🇿 Mozambique, 🇪🇹 Ethiopia, 🇧🇫 Burkina Faso, 🇹🇩 Chad, 🇲🇬 Madagascar, 🇬🇳 Guinea
 * Bottom 20 (100 years, proportional to population, query): 🇸🇸 South Sudan, Democratic Republic of the Congo, 🇸🇩 Sudan, 🇾🇪 Yemen, 🇲🇿 Mozambique, 🇪🇹 Ethiopia, 🇧🇫 Burkina Faso, 🇹🇩 Chad, 🇲🇬 Madagascar, 🇬🇳 Guinea, 🇲🇲 Myanmar, 🇹🇿 Tanzania, 🇲🇼 Malawi, 🇳🇪 Niger, 🇧🇩 Bangladesh, 🇧🇮 Burundi,  People's Republic of China,  Laos, 🇮🇩 Indonesia, 🇸🇦 Saudi Arabia
 * Bottom 3 per continent (on a 7 continent model, excluding Antarctica)
 * Africa: 🇸🇸 South Sudan, Democratic Republic of the Congo, 🇸🇩 Sudan
 * Asia: 🇾🇪 Yemen, 🇲🇲 Myanmar, 🇧🇩 Bangladesh
 * Europe: 🇦🇿 Azerbaijan, 🇷🇺 Russia, 🇺🇦 Ukraine
 * North America: 🇬🇹 Guatemala, 🇭🇹 Haiti, 🇭🇳 Honduras
 * South America: 🇧🇴 Bolivia, 🇧🇷 Brazil, 🇵🇪 Peru
 * Oceania: 🇮🇩 Indonesia, 🇵🇬 Papua New Guinea, 🇸🇧 Solomon Islands

In the most underrepresented countries, a small number of articles make a huge relative different and results in big swings in the list, so it would be even cooler to make this a recurring event. --MarioGom (talk) 11:45, 5 March 2020 (UTC)


 * There are some obvious artifacts in the data gathering method. For example, South Sudan is a young country and is likely to remain in the list for decades. Russia has a lot of people who lived in the XX century who are attributed to the Soviet Union. The same might be happening with Azerbaijan and Ukraine. I have tried to get something a bit more accurate in that sense, but I have failed to come up with a query that Wikidata can actually execute without timing out so far. --MarioGom (talk) 12:56, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
 * A thought: would it be possible to run percentage of women's biographies versus number of biographies in Wikipedia total? So, South Sudanese women vs. all South Sudanese biographies? That might give a more interesting picture of where coverage is. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 14:56, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Ser Amantio di Nicolao: Good point! I have created a table with the results here: User:MarioGom/sandbox/Gender imbalance per country.
 * Bottom 20 (last 100 years, lowest female to male ratio): 🇶🇦 Qatar, 🇹🇻 Tuvalu, 🇸🇦 Saudi Arabia, 🇴🇲 Oman, 🇹🇴 Tonga, 🇦🇪 United Arab Emirates, 🇻🇺 Vanuatu, 🇬🇳 Guinea, 🇬🇼 Guinea-Bissau, 🇱🇾 Libya, 🇸🇧 Solomon Islands, 🇵🇾 Paraguay, 🇹🇬 Togo, 🇼🇸 Samoa, 🇱🇷 Liberia, 🇰🇼 Kuwait, 🇧🇦 Bosnia and Herzegovina, Brunei,  Democratic Republic of the Congo, 🇺🇾 Uruguay
 * Bottom 3 per continent would be:
 * Africa: 🇬🇳 Guinea, 🇬🇼 Guinea-Bissau, 🇱🇾 Libya
 * Asia: 🇶🇦 Qatar, 🇸🇦 Saudi Arabia, 🇴🇲 Oman
 * Europe: 🇧🇦 Bosnia and Herzegovina, North Macedonia, 🇵🇹 Portugal
 * North America (although given the results it would make sense to say Central America and the Caribbean) : 🇦🇬 Antigua and Barbuda, 🇭🇳 Honduras, 🇩🇲 Dominica
 * South America: 🇵🇾 Paraguay, 🇺🇾 Uruguay, 🇧🇷 Brazil
 * Oceania: 🇹🇻 Tuvalu, 🇹🇴 Tonga, 🇻🇺 Vanuatu
 * --MarioGom (talk) 18:15, 5 March 2020 (UTC)

Interesting - it tracks with a lot of what I'd expected. There are still some artifacts in the broader data - "Kingdom of Denmark", for instance - but still. (Liberia might be a fairly easy fix, at least for the moment; I'm aware of a number of women in politics there who can be the subject of at least stub articles. Trouble, as always, is finding the proper sourcing.) -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 18:31, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Kingdom of Denmark appears because some entities are incorrectly labeled on Wikidata, and others are linked to Kingdom of Denmark when the person is a citizen of the Faroe Islands. I will leave it as is. --MarioGom (talk) 11:58, 6 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Oh, sure - wasn't thinking of suggesting otherwise. Just noting a data point. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 16:28, 6 March 2020 (UTC)
 * I think this is a great idea! I'm fairly new, and the women as a percentage of men's biographies makes easily understood appeal, and a great way to demonstrate the difference editing can make! I'd be enthusiastic about this as a future geofocus theme. Thanks for doing the data mining! (Lajmmoore (talk) 18:13, 22 March 2020 (UTC))


 * Thanks for developing this interesting approach. It is now being covered under #169 in June.--Ipigott (talk) 14:46, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

Firming up for June 2020
NEW * Pride: WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/167 / WIR-167 * United Nations: WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/168 / WIR-168 * Geofocus: Gender imbalance: WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/169 / WIR-169 CONTINUING * #1day1woman: WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/150 / WIR-150 * Sports: WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/151 / WIR-151 JUNE INVITE: WikiProject Women in Red/Outreach/2020 (draft)
 * I've created pages and templates for June: #167 Pride, #168 United Nations and #169 Gender imbalance. Perhaps and/or  can check them through before sending out the invitations.--Ipigott (talk) 11:48, 25 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Thank you,, and well-done. I'll create the June invite this morning, here (WikiProject Women in Red/Outreach/2020), and would appreciate it if you, and/or could review it (and the meetup pages) today before we get the MassMessage out. --Rosiestep (talk) 13:18, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Invitation created and ready for review. --Rosiestep (talk) 13:30, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Looks fine to me Rosie. SusunW (talk) 16:09, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Looks fine to me, too. It's a good idea to provide links to the social media but it may be useful to make sure the links turn up a page that is suitably presented for WiR with the right level of presentation, encouragement, etc. I'm afraid that apart from an age-old involvement in Twitter, I'm not a member of any social networks and therefore cannot really help. But it would be useful to have one or more coordinators for each of the four we seem to cover. (cc. )--Ipigott (talk) 16:19, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
 * is our Pinterest-in-Residence-Guru.
 * knows how to get our Twitter posts to feed into Facebook. They have experience with making this happen for m:Wikimedia District of Columbia. can you please make this happen?
 * Don't know who is expert with Instagram. Maybe we should ask for help with that on the main WiR talkpage? --Rosiestep (talk) 17:01, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
 * this looks terrific, ! and thanks so much for the shout-out. I will be glad to help you to promote these great events. as you may know, I have created a whole section at WP:CBB which posts notices about group editing activities; this is also transcluded to the WP:community portal. I will be glad to add the data for these great events to those pages as well. thanks!! --Sm8900 (talk) 16:38, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

I noted that we have trans and non-binary lists but no lesbian list from wikidata. That seems weird to me. Most of the crowd source list I had cobbled together has been done already, so I am wondering if someone who knows how to make lists can help? I am trying to add new crowd-sourced entries, but if we could get stuff from the other language versions, that would be a help, IMO. I have no clue how to generate a list, so am hoping someone with a magic wand can make that happen. SusunW (talk) 16:35, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
 * there is this one for crowd-sourced LGBTQ women. I can help add to it.Megalibrarygirl (talk) 17:16, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes, that is the one I am working to add materials to and would appreciate help . I had lots of 19th and early 20th century women on it, but most appear to have been done. Am removing the blue links, but then we will be left with very little. SusunW (talk) 17:19, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
 * OK. I'll add a few soon, . :) Megalibrarygirl (talk) 17:25, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks for cleaning up and adding to the crowed sourced list. I am not great with Wikidata queries, perhaps has an idea. Are there any LGBT/Queer encyclopedias or books that could serve as a source for redlists? I searched the internet archive  but nothing leapt out... TJMSmith (talk) 18:46, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
 * No answer for that . The ones I found and have added to the list usually come from finding 1 woman and then researching her and her partner to see if there are sources, which leads to another woman. Kind of a tedious process, but it works. SusunW (talk) 19:24, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

July Julies
I just had a look at our May Mays event page, and noticed that it was a lot of articles were created. So first, kudos to for coming up with the idea last year! And second, I'm wondering -and I realize it's late to do so- if we might like to offer "June Junes" for June? We would need to create WikiProject Women in Red/Missing articles by name/Women named June (include Juno and other spelling variations?) and WikiProject Women in Red/Missing articles by birth month/Women born in June, but it shouldn't be too difficult a task to complete (e.g. use the Wikidata redlists for May Mays as a guide). What do you think? --Rosiestep (talk) 14:44, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
 * That sounds great! Perhaps we can include women born in each month from now on! Corachow (talk) 14:48, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Sounds fine to me. There won't maybe be as many women named June to write about, but it's a good bridge to the possibilities of Julie/Julia/Juliana/Juliet in July. Penny Richards (talk) 14:51, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Good idea but I think we should plan this for June 2021. It seems to me that without sufficient preparation, focusing on the name June may lead above all to biographies of women from the English-speaking countries as the name is not common elsewhere. We could perhaps plan something along these lines for July as we have names such as Julie, Julia, Juliette, Giulia, etc. In any case, I think we already have enough to do in June, especially as I hope UN women will prove more attractive than last year's UN focus which led to less than 40 new bios. We need to make a real effort to do better this year without too many distractions.--Ipigott (talk) 15:10, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Fair enough, . --Rosiestep (talk) 15:19, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
 * When we add this next year additional variations are Junia/Yunia, Djune/Djuna, Juna, and Yoon. SusunW (talk) 16:11, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Funny I had the same idea about June Junes, but didn't think about July. I was also thinking of April Aprils too (see below discussion). --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 16:15, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Lets skip June this year - indeed it's not much tome left, but please lets do July - there are so many possibilities there. I'm ready to participate in organizational processes if you can mentor me there. BEst, Less Unless (talk) 16:59, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
 * I want to echo the great points made by and agree that July and all its iterations would be a great focus. Citrivescence (talk) 17:11, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
 * July Julies is so fun, and can't logically be bumped, so I hope that one can stay. Penny Richards (talk) 16:14, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

WIR and WP:Black Lives Matter (BLM) editathon/collaboration
Wanted to invite people (others welcome) to propose a future editathon collaboration between the WIR and WikiProject Black Lives Matter (BLM). This seems timely given the ongoing George Floyd protests that are now international. TJMSmith (talk) 01:49, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
 * , Yes, ASAP! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 01:50, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
 * That would be perfect! We're putting an edit drive together right now, if y'all had some resources on black women who need articles, that would be great! CaptainEek  Edits Ho Cap'n!⚓ 01:55, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Might I suggest as well? I believe they have interests in this direction. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 02:43, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Just a reminder that we last covered Black women just three months ago with 148 new or improved articles. We should perhaps be wary of covering news events which concern primarily the United States. I suggest we wait at least a month or two to see how this develops. There might be some indications at the G7 in September. We could then cover it under a broader, more international heading with reference to ethnicity in developed countries.--Ipigott (talk) 07:00, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
 * I think this is a great idea. Just working on List of African-American women in medicine I turned up a number of notable redlinks. There's so many missing black women on Wikipedia that we can definitely devote more time to them. Megalibrarygirl (talk) 17:36, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
 * What about focusing on "racism"/"anti-racism" in July? For example, I've seen tweets in the last 24 hours from Whose Knowledge User Group leadership reminding people not to focuswith a small lens, but to do so with a broad lens, e.g. Indian caste system. The benefit of WiR facilitating such an event in July is that we could involve a lot more wiki communities besides just us. And each community and editor could focus on their choice, e.g. #BLM or etc. Note, too, that Women in Red has never facilitated an anti-racism editathon so why not in July especially if we started promoting it now via all the different social media channels that a bunch of us participate in. I think I could get "Wikipedia Weekly" to devote an hour to it. --Rosiestep (talk) 18:29, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
 * I love the idea of a Racism (or Anti-racism) themed event in July. I agree, it broadens the scope which is a good thing. TJMSmith (talk) 19:17, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Glad you think so, . :) --Rosiestep (talk) 00:48, 4 June 2020 (UTC)


 * I like 's suggestion that we take a more global approach. We might not have called it "anti-racism" in the past but we have in fact devoted several editathons to closely related topics, including Jewish history, Hispanic women, Indigenous women, Marginalized populations and Prisoners, as well as several attempts at Black women. I think we need to devise an approach which will bring together all these, providing more specific focus on ethnic discrimination. We could then perhaps cover women who have been the subject of discrimination as well as all those who have fought for improvements to the rights and treatment of ethnic minorities. For a few ideas on the global problem, see Discrimination based on skin color. Would it be OK to call it "Ethnic discrimination"? It seems to me "racism" or "anti-racism" smacks too much of current political controversy. While we certainly need to address political mistreatment of minorities (both currently and historically), I think we should try to keep Women in Red as far removed as possible from American party politics. Maybe we could indeed cover this in July but it will require careful preparation. We should begin by examining and possibly sounding out relevant interests from non-white (especially non-WASP) communities -- Blacks, Jews, Hispanics, Arabs, Muslims, Hindus, Romas, Samis, Uyghurs, Aboriginies, Maoris, etc., etc. (For starters, see all those mentioned in South Asian ethnic groups!)--Ipigott (talk) 13:28, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Ipigott raises excellent points. I'd be supportive of an "Ethnic Discrimination" or even a (perhaps) broader "Discrimination" themed event. I concur with the thoughts above about avoiding politicizing WIR (especially in a partisan manner). Hopefully this this broader scope will appeal to a wider audience. I will also note that while the BLM and George Floyd protests obviously originate in the U.S., they seem to have become more international (see International George Floyd protests and Black Lives Matter). TJMSmith (talk) 16:30, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes, the focus needs to be broader than "#BlackLivesMatter", but I think this event in July needs to focus on "race", not "discrimination". Discrimination has many subsets, race being one of them, also skin color, also gender, age, disability, veteran status, etc. I think it's important to include the word race/racism/anti-racism/racial or some such in the title of our July event. Examples: "Race Matters", "Racial Justice", or simply "Race". I think by providing redlists for many races, we provide options to editors. In our 5 year history, Women in Red has rarely been 'topical' with our events line up. I think it would be a mistake to skirt around the issue that the matter of race is topical now, when it is also important to our WikiProject in general. As for assessing relevant interests, I totally support that, starting with this from our CEO and COO: "We stand for racial justice.". --Rosiestep (talk) 17:03, 5 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Then lets just go for "Race" and explain the background on the editathon page. In the meantime, we need to work on redlinks, perhaps covering groups of people who suffer discrimination because of ethnicity, religion, skin colour, language or a combination of these. Depending on where they live, they include (but are certainly not limited to) Aboriginies, Arabs, Armenians, Berbers, Biharis, Blacks, Copts, Dalits, Hispanics, Hindus, Inuits, Jews, Kashmiris, Kurds, Maoris, Mestizos, Mongols, Muslims, Romas, Samis, Sindhis, Somalis, Tibetans, Uyghurs and Yupiks. Obviously some of these are more important than others.--Ipigott (talk) 06:58, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
 * , mentioned earlier is the need to sort out which redlists do we have and which ones still need to be created. Also, which ones to exclude. For example, what about Rohingya people who, according to Wikipedia, are an ethnic group (not a "race"). There is a lot for us to learn as we take care with developing this event, so please give opinions and suggest lists. Thanks. --Rosiestep (talk) 17:56, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
 * from a biological and academic standpoint, race is a slippery slope. It's a social construct that is not biologically attributable. Of course the issue is that people have been taught for centuries that it is valid, thus they make distinctions between "race" and "ethnicity" (not all that different than the binary and arbitrary assignment of gender). To my mind, the focus should be on marginalization, rather than race. If we focus on people who are underrepresented in our coverage, we make our encyclopedia more inclusive. Just my thoughts. SusunW (talk) 18:25, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
 * I agree with what is saying here. I also want to point out that the concept of "race" in several manifestations it's very American (i.e. I've been asked more than once in US forms "what's your race", I'm white and my grandparents came from Europe but I'm from Latin America, so am I a "Latino" in the same way that US people refer to "latinos"?). I also agree with some comments above around how this is still a very US focused thing. I also want to point out that just yesterday looking for some other thing I came across this   article that clearly needs tons of work (same goes for "minority group"). I know the focus of WIR is mainly lists of women but maybe this could be an interesting topical area to explore/expand.  Scann (talk) 18:33, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Thinking more and more and more about this, and some learning along the way, too... I think the comments around "slippery-slope" and US-centered are valid, ergo I'm starting to back-track on my support for this as a focus area for July... unless someone can re-format it in a way that's acceptable by consensus. --Rosiestep (talk) 18:54, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
 * I don't want to not do an editathon (racism is real). Perfectly happy to support women against discrimination as a topic, as that includes any number of global women who have fought any number of social justice issues. SusunW (talk) 20:10, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Couldn't we just have an editathon called Black Lives Matter? I think no matter where in the world you are, there is validity to that statement even if the reasons, race, ethnicity, skin etc vary. It may have started as a US slogan but it's true in many places. We can also do editathons on discrimination due to which ever seems best as a term, but right now, let's just do this?<em style="font-family: Kristen ITC; color:red">  &#9749;  Antiqueight  chatter 20:36, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
 * I agree with, BLM is a worldwide movement, with protests supporting BLM going on right now in Australia, UK and all over the US. I think there's a huge need for more black biographies. That includes African-Americans, but also all black people around the world. Megalibrarygirl (talk) 03:48, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

There is already an editathon on Black Lives Matter in which anyone can participate. As I said earlier, I think we need to extend our interest to all marginalized groups worldwide.--Ipigott (talk) 05:54, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

I've been thinking about this quite a bit. As we seem to be going round in circles here, it might help if starts to prepare a draft editathon page, leaving the exact name until later. That would give us a better idea of the scope and would provide a basis for working on redlists.--Ipigott (talk) 08:54, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Let's do a "Black Women and Human Rights in support of BLM" so that we can cover as many intersectional topics from all over the world. What do you think? Megalibrarygirl (talk) 18:21, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
 * I don't mind making the page, either. :) Megalibrarygirl (talk) 18:26, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

How about a six-month extended editathon?
If this issue is considered to be of sufficient importance, we could perhaps run an event from July to December. It could be substituted for the Sports initiative which could be curtailed until next year when there will no doubt be a return to normal sports fixtures including the Olympics. I don't know exactly what we should call it. If we want to keep BLM, maybe BLM++, BLM Worldwide or BLM/Anti-discrimination. The full scope could be explained in announcements and on the editathon page. If we decide to go ahead on this basis, I think we should try to firm up plans by mid-June. It would also offer opportunities to improve coverage of women from all the developing countries.--Ipigott (talk) 08:55, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
 * I love it. I like BLM+, I'd also be happy with making it Black Women's Lives or something. I agree the slogan started in the US but it is resonating almost everywhere so it doesn't feel like a US only issue now, to me anyway. But BLM+ lets us put in anyone who is discriminated against for ehtnicity, race, religion etc.. We can say it's a worldwide issue facing people for Civil rights issues, discrimination issues yet focuses slightly more on the BLM movement which is intersectional and international. I like the idea. <3 <em style="font-family: Kristen ITC; color:red">  &#9749;  Antiqueight  chatter 10:58, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
 * I really like the idea of an international BLM/Anti-discrimination editathon. I don't necessarily know that we need to suspend the sports initiative, people seem to like it and we don't want to renege on our agreement to host a year long editathon on that, but I'll go with consensus. SusunW (talk) 15:13, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Oh, I really do like the idea of an international BLM/Anti-discrimination editathon for July. IMO, one month is sufficient vs. the remainder of the year. --Rosiestep (talk) 15:44, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
 * I also agree that the sports initiative shouldn't be suspended for the remainder of the year as we already said it would be a year long one. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 18:11, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
 * I like the idea; we've already got the article improvement drive, so it's best not to duplicate effort. Broadening the focus to women of marginalized groups in solidarity with BLM is a good use of WIR's resources and expertise. — Wug·a·po·des​ 21:01, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
 * LOVE THIS! Megalibrarygirl (talk) 21:22, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
 * I agree, this is a wonderful idea!!! I would leave the Sports event in place as it seems popular. TJMSmith (talk) 21:50, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi. I think it's a great idea, too. Be sure to reach out to the new WikiProject Black Lives Matter project, started by . I think it's fine to keep the sports event. Lots of folks like editing about sports and in the US we will be seeing sports return in upcoming weeks, even if a bit different. Women are still playing sports and sports folx are still making news and many sportspeople are supporters of the BLM movement. Missvain (talk) 00:34, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Happy to help and promote this event at WP:BLM once a meetup page is created. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 01:33, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Sounds like we have a plan<em style="font-family: Kristen ITC; color:red">  &#9749;  Antiqueight  chatter 07:26, 9 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Then it looks as if it's going to be BLM/Anti-discrimination. From the above, most seem to be in favour of six-months for it while maintaining sports for the rest of the year. And from what follows, it looks as if the other items for July are going to be ADA and July Julies. So unless there are any further suggestions, it looks as if we could make a start on the new editathon pages over the next few days.--Ipigott (talk) 11:04, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Sounds good although we are getting a lot of parallel editathons.... and some of them are a bit thin. After six months there is a gap after this new editathon and its black history month. I "met" someone on our Twitter feed who wanted to write about "WOC" but they could not find a list. I suggested our Nigerian or Sri Lanka list ... but they said they should have said "American WOC". hmmm. Victuallers (talk) 11:15, 9 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Maybe we could introduce priorities for each month: e.g. writers, artists, health workers, scientists, politicians... with redlists for each. I see we already have a Wikidata redlist on African-Americans as well as Black artists, Black women in America, physicians, Indigenous women and all the country-based lists. I sympathize with you for not being able to find African-Americans. For some reason it was not in our redlist index but I've now added it. As for the "parallel editathons", #1day1woman seems to be progressing well and sports is not doing too badly either considering all the cancellations. I've noticed though that contributors are increasingly using all-purpose templates such as WIR or WIR 2020, probably to avoid losing time adding them to the various lists.--Ipigott (talk) 11:10, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Good to see that the lists are getting some attention but I suspect we have more points of focus that light rays in some areas. Sport will complete in December and then it will be an Olympic Year (assuming we figure out a "new normal"). Thanks for all (and adding African Americans - I wouldn't know where to finish on that one). Victuallers (talk) 13:47, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

Geofocus
What do you think about focusing on women from states which fall into and ? --Rosiestep (talk) 18:27, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
 * This sounds interesting! What would be an appropriate condensed titled for this? TJMSmith (talk) 16:34, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
 * How about: "Unrecognized, largely-unrecognized, limited-recognition states"? --Rosiestep (talk) 17:06, 5 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Or maybe "Women from Where?" It might be eyecatching enough for curious folks to click through and get the explanation. Penny Richards (talk) 18:02, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
 * That is clever,, and succinct! Sounds good to me. --Rosiestep (talk) 18:57, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
 * It seems to me that many of these could be worked into BLM/Anti-discriminitation. When I have time, I'll try to look into it more closely.--Ipigott (talk) 11:10, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm really enjoying this editathon (but its a bit lonely) - its a clever idea and I notice that PamD had estimated that her one entry for Qatar improved the gender balance for that country by 6%. That's a great impact Victuallers (talk) 11:18, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

ADA 30
Looks like we already have a lot for July 2020, but just a heads up that July 26, 2020 is the 30th anniversary of the Americans with Disabilities Act. There probably won't be a lot of in-person events, considering the health risks, but we could do another WIR Women and Disability editathon (it's been a couple years), and we already have the redlists. I'd be happy to take lead on that if there's interest. Penny Richards (talk) 00:45, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
 * We could always bump "AfC/NPP" to August (or eliminate July Julies) to make room for this event in the month when it coincides with the anniversary. Plus, if you'd take lead on it,, that would be grand. --Rosiestep (talk) 15:51, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Happy to! I don't know how to set up the editathon page itself, but I will be happy to publicize, invite editors from beyond WIR, refresh the CS redlist, etc. Penny Richards (talk) 16:14, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Suggest we avoid the title ADA to prevent confusion with Ada Lovelace editathons. Victuallers (talk) 11:23, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Women and Disability is fine. I think that's what we used last time. Penny Richards (talk) 00:36, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Please also include WikiProject Disability in this. Would this focus only on American women or is there room to cast the net wider? Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 07:01, 12 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Of course!! And think Women and Disability like last time (WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/57); no boundaries. Penny Richards (talk) 14:34, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

Firming up for July 2020
NEW * July Julies: WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/170 / WIR-170 * Disability: WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/171 / WIR-171 * Geofocus: Women from Where?: WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/172 / WIR-172 * BLM/Anti-Discrimination: WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/173 / WIR-173 CONTINUING * #1day1woman: WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/150 / WIR-150 * Sports: WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/151 / WIR-151 JULY INVITE: WikiProject Women in Red/Outreach/2020
 * What do you think we can conclude from all the above suggestions and discussions? If you can summarize the priorities, I'll try to put a few pages together.--Ipigott (talk) 15:14, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
 * There seems to be favor for these. How does this sound to you?
 * For the month of July: "July Julies", "Women and Disability"; plus geofocus on "Women from Where?" to include these states ( and ).
 * In addition, a half year initiative for "BLM/Anti-discrimination" to run in parallel with "Sports". --Rosiestep (talk) 16:52, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Well that's quite a mouthful. It will be interesting to see how people cope with four new priorities plus #1day1woman and sports. But I can see that some bios might fall into two or more of these priorities. I'll start preparing the pages now. And while I remember, I was thinking of going through some of the increasingly long #1day1woman lists to see what topics have been the most popular. But that might take me a week or two.--Ipigott (talk) 13:31, 27 June 2020 (UTC)


 * In conecction with #170 July Julies, we could do with 's help to establish Wikidata lists of redlinks.--Ipigott (talk) 14:25, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
 * I have created the July/Julie Wikidata redlists. --Rosiestep (talk) 15:55, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks for these, . Plenty of interesting women to write about. I see has now usefully created Wikidata lists for all the months under "By time period". I don't know if there are any plans for Augusta, Gusta, etc. As for the unrecognized states, I've listed the names of the countries in question on the meetup page and done what I can with the existing redlists. I was surprised to find very little on Northern Cyprus. I don't know if it would be worthwhile creating a redlist. I don't think there would be much interest in picking up biographies from the Turkish wiki - if there are any. We can probably make do with what we already have.--Ipigott (talk) 11:03, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
 * I've put together the four pages but I still need to expand the redlinks on BLM/Anti-discrimination. If you find the time, you might like to check them through. Perhaps, who expressed interest earlier, would also like to contribute to the page. If we have no response from Tagishsimon on July Julies by tomorrow, we could perhaps contact MarioGom. As it's already the 28th, we shouldn't lose too much more time on the invitations.--Ipigott (talk) 10:27, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
 * I have created the Invite. Please review it to make sure everything links correctly. I can send out the MassMessage after you give the "okay". --Rosiestep (talk) 15:55, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
 * 173 seems to be missing on the top line. Otherwise it looks fine.--Ipigott (talk) 16:02, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you for creating the meetup pages, . MassMessage sent. --Rosiestep (talk) 16:14, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Looks good to me! Penny Richards (talk) 17:12, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

Geofocus

 * How about countries which currently have women prime ministers or heads of government? I thought of this as Christine Lagarde has just suggested that women leaders have been more successful than men in dealing with COVID-19. We can get some help from List of elected and appointed female heads of state and government.--Ipigott (talk)
 * I really, really like that focus SusunW (talk) 14:09, 23 July 2020 (UTC)

Late suggestion: August Augustas
May Mays contributed 92 articles. We skipped June Junes. In the first 23 days of July, July Julies contributed 29 articles. So maybe we offer August Augustas, too? --Rosiestep (talk) 18:13, 23 July 2020 (UTC)

Add to #1day1woman

 * Invitations to collaborate with other wiki communities
 * m:Interwiki Women Collaboration: The 2020 focus is on healthcare in general, COVID-19 in particular. See: m:Interwiki Women Collaboration/Editions. --Rosiestep (talk) 16:56, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia Pages Wanting Photos: has invited Women in Red to participate in m:Wikipedia Pages Wanting Photos in August. The Community Liaison, Anglophone Communities is  in case there are questions. --Rosiestep (talk) 19:56, 21 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Per here:— "There are a large number of articles about women and related topics at AFC and NPP. Following are the links to bot-generated pages tracking these articles. ORES machine learning software is used to establish that these articles are about women. Your help in reviewing these articles will be greatly appreciated. If you don't have new page reviewer or AfC reviewer right, you can request them at WP:PERM/NPR or WT:AFCP." AfC sorting/Culture/Biography/Women and User:SDZeroBot/NPP sorting/Culture/Biography/Women. --Rosiestep (talk) 12:16, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

Firming up for August 2020
;New * Indigenous women WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/174 WIR-174 * Countries headed by women WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/175 WIR-175 ;Ongoing * #1day1woman: WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/150 WIR-150 * Sports: WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/151 WIR-151 * BLM/anti-discrimination: WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/173 WIR-173 * Invite: *WikiProject Women in Red/Outreach/2020

There are 2 invitations for us to collaborate with other online wiki communities: Interwiki Women Collaboration, and Wikipedia Pages Wanting Photos. There are also 3 4 suggestions for August events: Annual/Indigenous Women, AfC/NPP, Geofocus/heads of government. Late add: August Augustas. , how do you suggest we proceed? --Rosiestep (talk) 17:48, 23 July 2020 (UTC)


 * A thought: what about permanently incorporating AFC/NPP into #1day1woman, e.g. add the links into the section where we provide links to redlists and/or other possible articles? This way, it wouldn't be a stand-alone event in any one month, e.g. it's already been bumped a few times, though the idea is sound. --Rosiestep (talk) 17:48, 23 July 2020 (UTC)


 * I think that adding the Interwiki Women Collaboration and Wikipedia Pages Wanting Photos to #1day1woman would work. That way a broader scope can get involved with those initiatives. Megalibrarygirl (talk) 18:05, 23 July 2020 (UTC)


 * I'm beginning to wonder whether we are taking the right approach. In July, #1day1woman has attracted far more interest than all the others put together. There's been some interest in BLM but Sports is no longer very popular, July Julies has only attracted a trickle and Women from Where, only 5! I've also noticed many members of WiR simply tag their talk pages with WIR or WikiProjet Women in Red without any specific focus, usually not even specifying the year. Maybe we should stick to Indigenous women and States with female heads of government in August but suggest on the invitation that we are looking for new ideas on how to encourage participation on specific topics (with suggestions on which topics we should be addressing). I'll be busy tomorrow but may have time on Sunday or Monday to prepare any new pages.--Ipigott (talk) 09:51, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Pinging: on this.--Ipigott (talk) 17:12, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
 * I know I was intimidated by the language barrier with the Women from Where? I do really enjoy doing the Indigenous women editathon. I also like helping to add photos, and that's why I was thinking maybe we could work the photos in with the #1Day1Woman. I wonder if a lot of people are going through what I am. If you're in a country like the US that can't be bothered to control COVID, there's always a level of anxiety that you're dealing with. We have a crisis here on so many levels and I wonder if that's affecting people's output. It's been hard for me to write...even though I have more time to write! Anyway, I'm game for whatever we all decide. Sticking to at least one or two topics has helped keep me going even if it's not always easy to write. :) Megalibrarygirl (talk) 18:47, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
 * We've all being going through unusually difficult times but I think many of us have found how useful it is to contribute to Women in Red and other areas of Wikimedia. Like many others, you are playing a significant part in revealing the important contribution women play to our history and our evolving picture. Keep up the good work! We can all support each other.--Ipigott (talk) 20:18, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes, #1day1woman is doing well, while events that have a particular focus, e.g. sports, not so much. These are tough times for a lot of people so it's no surprise that Women in Red's outcomes are affected, too. We need to adapt. I think trimming the number of offerings per month for the rest of the year makes sense. I don't think we "have to" do a geofocus every month. I think we're at liberty to cancel sports or anything else if the interest has waned. And I support whatever is decided by consensus. --Rosiestep (talk) 20:07, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm in the same boat, lots of stuff going on. Writing as I can. I'm okay with whatever the group decides, but the monthly focus helps me stay focused in this very challenging time. SusunW (talk) 20:21, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
 * #1day1woman works for me! I really appreciate all your collective effort in keeping this going. Keep it simple/easy for you. The regulars will be on board with whatever you decide. Thanks.WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 21:00, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
 * There are suggestions above to merge three of the focuses into #1day1woman, so I've taken the liberty of grouping those three into an August subsection regarding that merge. I'd be glad to take on that task. --Rosiestep (talk) 01:06, 25 July 2020 (UTC)


 * That sounds good. If there are no other suggestions, I'll prepare pages for Indigenous women and Countries with female heads. Maybe we should include Sports for one more month but explain on #151 that we are preparing to discontinue focus on this for the rest of the year. We could start again next year in connection with the Olympics.--Ipigott (talk) 10:48, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
 * I've created #174 and #175. Hope they're OK the way they are. Please let me know if there's anything else I can do to help.--Ipigott (talk) 14:04, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you so much for creating them,.
 * I've created the August Invite. Added the interwiki collaborations to Outcomes section of #150. Added the AFC/NPP info to Redlists section of #150. Added end date at the top of #151. Clarified dates on talkpage templates for #151, 174, and 175.
 * - If you have time soon, would you please double-check all the links at the top of this subsection, and the links in the Invite, to assure that everything is in order before the MassMessaging? Thank you. --Rosiestep (talk) 18:22, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
 * the links look good. :) Megalibrarygirl (talk) 18:28, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Ditto from me. The invitation looks fine too. Maybe at the beginning of August we could include something on our main talk page to encourage people to participate in the two new topics and also come up with any new suggestions they may have in regard to the coming months.--Ipigott (talk) 18:35, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
 * , thanks! MassMessaging done. --Rosiestep (talk) 18:56, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Looks good! Pinterest board for August 2020 is set up now. -Penny Richards (talk) 19:39, 26 July 2020 (UTC)

Annual event: Writers
I strongly support focus on writers for September. It might be useful to focus more strongly this year on those from non-English speaking countries whose works have been translated into English or have led to films distributed around the world.--Ipigott (talk) 11:57, 20 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Just wanted to throw out there that there are an overwhelming amount of women in children's literature that are missing articles. I'm finding them almost constantly. (Not sure if it's general under-representation or if children's literature just gets less focus?) With the pandemic keeping some kids from regular schooling, it might be nice to have a focus on this too. Parents are probably looking at at-home activities (books), and there are a ton of missing book articles in this area as well.Also, there are some diversity initiatives in the book industry getting attention right now, so it should hopefully be easier to find sources on books/authors from underrepresented backgrounds. - Whisperjanes (talk) 07:32, 26 August 2020 (UTC)

Geofocus
How about "Women in conflict zones", as suggested on the WiR talk page?--Ipigott (talk) 11:24, 20 August 2020 (UTC)

Invitations to collaborate with other wiki communities
Any specific suggestions or ideas on this? Maybe we could also address it in reverse, inviting other communities to collaborate with Women in Red. This could perhaps be an opportunity to increase our membership.--Ipigott (talk) 12:10, 20 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Looking at the suggestion for October from to focus on biographies of public health officials being threatened during the Covid-19 epidemic, perhaps the WikiProject COVID-19 would like to work with us. I had posted a link this Washington Post article Covid-19 is one of Wikipedia’s biggest challenges ever. Here’s how the site is handling it on the WiR talk page, noticing that two WiR members, Rosiestep and Another Believer were connected to that project. They may want to partner with us so that we follow their protocols for keeping misinformation off the web, and encourage cross participation.  WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 15:49, 20 August 2020 (UTC) Nevermind, I see that is currently a collaboration. sorry. WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 20:38, 20 August 2020 (UTC)

World War II

 * m:World War II… 75 Years After. 1939 to 1945: Born in those years. Died in those years. Some notable activity, war-related or not, in those years. --Rosiestep (talk) 01:00, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

Firming up for September
;New * Women writers WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/176 WIR-176 * Women in conflict zones WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/177 WIR-177 ;Ongoing * #1day1woman: WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/150 WIR-150 * BLM/anti-discrimination: WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/173 WIR-173 * Invite: WikiProject Women in Red/Outreach/2020


 * I'm pinging quite a few of you this time as there has not been much activity on our ideas pages. Any further contributions from anyone? We should start putting the focus pages together over the next few days.--Ipigott (talk) 08:54, 22 August 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm cool with writers and Rosie's suggestion about WWII birth/death fits in line with women in conflict areas. Perhaps those 2 with the continuing focus on BLM, sport, and 1day1woman are sufficient? SusunW (talk) 13:45, 22 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Agree with, except I think we decided last month to end Sport on August 31st. --Rosiestep (talk) 14:23, 22 August 2020 (UTC)
 * I like the idea of female writers in WWII. I was also thinking about researching for women who do work on television, radio and other types of media like presenters, actors and journalists but I don't know if that's been done before? SarahTHunter (talk) 14:41, 22 August 2020 (UTC)
 * For my own (addle-brained) clarification: September focus is the recurring "Women Writers", September geofocus ""Women in conflict zones", September Inter-wiki collaboration "WW II...75 years later", ongoing "BLM",and "1day1woman"? Sounds good to me. WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 17:29, 22 August 2020 (UTC)
 * I agree with regarding the female writers during the WWII. I also have suggestions regarding covering about African women activists and we are seriously lagging in terms of covering up prominent African activists. Abishe (talk) 03:33, 23 August 2020 (UTC)
 * There will be ample opportunity to cover African activists over the next three months -- se below. Maybe you have some specific redlinks? It looks as if WikiProject Women in Red/The World Contest/Missing articles/Africa would be the best place to include them.--Ipigott (talk) 08:26, 23 August 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm good with these ideas. Let me know if you want any help mass-messaging, etc. Megalibrarygirl (talk) 19:11, 23 August 2020 (UTC)


 * I'm really sorry it's taken me so long to put the two new pages for September together. I've been away for the past two days and have also had to deal with many other requests. Please check them through carefully before you send out the invitation.--Ipigott (talk) 19:37, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
 * , no worries! Thanks for creating the meetup pages, and for everything else you do around here., I've created the invite. If you think it's ready to go, would you please MassMessage? Thanks! --Rosiestep (talk) 23:16, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm on it. I just changed one link. Megalibrarygirl (talk) 17:48, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
 * thanks for catching that! --Rosiestep (talk) 18:46, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

Annual event: Ada Lovelace Day/Scientists/STEM
I was struck with how many public health officials are women. . . and that during the pandemic, many are getting death threats. I think that their role during this time is notable and wondered if we could focus on their biographies and contributions during the October event. Thoughts? I'd be happy to start compiling a list of potential figures. TIA. Ahsoka Dillard (talk) 17:39, 19 August 2020 (UTC)

Geofocus
On the WiR talk page under August brainstorming, there have been suggestions that starting in October, we should organize a series of three-month virtual contests covering the continents of the world. If we take these in alphabetical order, we could start with Africa for October to December 2020. This would tie up nicely with the UK's Black History Month.--Ipigott (talk) 11:23, 20 August 2020 (UTC)
 * I think it is a good idea. WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 16:59, 20 August 2020 (UTC)
 * I suggested doing by country years ago and support it. Broader, rather than narrow focus gives people more room to find their way on a topic. SusunW (talk) 13:47, 22 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Sounds good to me! (Lajmmoore (talk) 11:26, 24 August 2020 (UTC))

Continental Challenge Draft Barnstar
We had discussed virtual recognition for the contests. I have made a draft of a dedicated wiki Barnstar for the Africa Challenge. I could make additional barnstars for Asia, Europe, Latin America, and Oceania. Please feel free to comment or make changes. Also any guidance on if I/we need to get a barnstar approved, and where I should do that once a final design is agreed on. Thanks. WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 20:52, 22 August 2020 (UTC)


 * I love it, . Maybe spell out Women in Red to avoid confusion with the other "WiR" acronym, Wikipedian in Residence. --Rosiestep (talk) 21:05, 22 August 2020 (UTC) ✅
 * Very nice! I like it. Alanna the Brave (talk) 21:16, 22 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Always enjoy seeing new barnstars, including this one! Well done. Penny Richards (talk) 00:25, 23 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Wow nice it's a nice initiative and a creative cool barnstar. Abishe (talk) 03:37, 23 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Great work! Now we all have something specific to aim for.--Ipigott (talk) 08:28, 23 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks . Please let me know if there are any other administrative tasks I an help with for this challenge. Unfortunately I don't know how to generate redlists. WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 16:32, 23 August 2020 (UTC)
 * I love this! Megalibrarygirl (talk) 19:05, 23 August 2020 (UTC)
 * This is ACE! Looking forward to earning one :) (Lajmmoore (talk) 11:28, 24 August 2020 (UTC))

Firming up for October
I think we should publish our plans for October within the next four or five days, especially if we are going to launch our first three-month "continental" contest. In this connection, as November is Wiki Asia Month, I was wondering whether it would be more sensible to start with Asia and leave Africa to January–March 2021. I'll be happy to prepare the contest page with explanations, more or less along the lines of last year's destubbing contest although (if everyone agrees) the priority this time will be the creation of new biographies of at least 160 words or 1,000 characters of running text.

The other priorities seem to be STEM and Public health officials (with a redlist from Ahsoka Dillard). As for Black History Month in the UK, we can emphasize that under BLM. Have I left anything out?--Ipigott (talk) 15:01, 19 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Ipigott Sorry to be absent. I'll pull that redlist together by Wednesday, 22 Sept. Where should I put it? This is my first time participating in this capacity. Any advice is most welcome.Ahsoka Dillard (talk) 20:33, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Sounds good to me! (Lajmmoore (talk) 07:10, 22 September 2020 (UTC))
 * Thanks for responding. Now that the invitations have gone out, I think we should leave it for a future month. In the meantime, it would be great if you could create a list. I suggest you first prepare it in your user space as user:Ahsoka Dillard/WiR redlist of public health officials. Let us know when you think it is ready. We can then decide if it should continue to be a list in its own right or whether we should combine it with existing lists such as WikiProject Women in Red/COVID-19. If you wish, you could of course simply expand the latter, perhaps just adding a section "Public health officials".--Ipigott (talk) 09:11, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
 * My first pass at the list is ready. user:Ahsoka Dillard/WiR redlist of public health officials I've started with state level heads of public health departments. There are a few others that I've encountered as I've researched. I will add women in major metropolitan areas. Any suggestions are welcome. Best, Ahsoka Dillard (talk) 14:41, 22 September 2020 (UTC)

Hi ! Was there a reason you deleted a significant portion of this part of the talk page of Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Ideas? I refer to your edit of September 21 (-14,569‎). Usually the talk pages (except your own) are kept intact as a record of conversations and decisions, and in this case there were some ongoing conversations that you removed. Thanks. WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 16:27, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Oh NO! Mea Culpa! How sloppy editing of me. I must have highlighted it and deleted on accident. I'll try to fix by manually. Ahsoka Dillard (talk) 16:38, 22 September 2020 (UTC)


 * This all sounds reasonable to me, including Asia for 2020Q4 and Africa for 2021Q1. Perhaps Europe for 20201Q2 as we commonly focus on CEE countries in April. --Rosiestep (talk) 15:27, 19 September 2020 (UTC)
 * I concur as well. SusunW (talk) 15:40, 19 September 2020 (UTC)
 * and all, For my own clarification: October focus is the recurring "Ada Lovelace Day/STEM ", October - December geofocus ""Women in Red Continental Challenge - Asia" (new biographies of at least 160 words or 1,000 characters of running text), ongoing "BLM",and "1day1woman"? Sounds good to me. I am adding the barnstar and the list of countries. Let me know of any edits you would like WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 16:38, 19 September 2020 (UTC)
 * {| style="background-color: #fdffe7; border: 1px solid #fceb92;"


 * rowspan="2" style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 5px;" | WiRCC2020Asia.png
 * style="font-size: x-large; padding: 3px 3px 0 3px; height: 1.5em;" | Women in Red Continental Challenge - Asia
 * style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | Thank you for your additions
 * }
 * List based on the Wikipedia article List of sovereign states and dependent territories by continent and reviewed for completeness using the US State Department's Independent States in the World Fact Sheet, July 16, 2020. The countries of Taiwan and Palestine have been included though their status as countries is disputed.
 * List based on the Wikipedia article List of sovereign states and dependent territories by continent and reviewed for completeness using the US State Department's Independent States in the World Fact Sheet, July 16, 2020. The countries of Taiwan and Palestine have been included though their status as countries is disputed.


 * Asia = Afghanistan, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Bahrain, Bangladesh, Bhutan, Brunei, Cambodia, China and the Special Administrative Regions of Hong Kong and Macau, Cyprus, Egypt, Georgia, India, Indonesia, Iran, Iraq, Israel, Japan, Jordan, Kazakhstan, Korea, North, Korea, South, Kuwait, Kyrgyzstan, Laos, Lebanon, Malaysia, Maldives, Mongolia, Myanmar (formerly Burma), Nepal, Oman, Pakistan, Palestine, Philippines, Qatar, Russia, Saudi Arabia, Singapore, Sri Lanka, Syria, Taiwan, Tajikistan, Thailand, Timor-Leste, Turkey, Turkmenistan, United Arab Emirates (UAE), Uzbekistan, Vietnam, Yemen
 * I'm good with this list. Let me know when it's ready to send out. Megalibrarygirl (talk) 17:10, 19 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Oh, The graphic, if you want to use it for the page or the announcement is on the commons at https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:WiRCC2020Asia.png  --WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 17:50, 19 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the list and the barnstar. As for the list, I would not have included Cyprus as it is generally considered to be in Europe and is indeed a member state of the European Union. I think for the Koreas, we should specify North Korea and South Korea. If we include Russia, we should also include Turkey, especially as its capital (Ankara) is in Asia. The graphic is great for barnstars. For more general use in connection with the contest, I wonder if you could remove the star and keep the heart with the Asian silhouette and the background Asian map. BTW, we have Category:WikiProject Women in Red barnstars which I've added.--Ipigott (talk) 09:46, 20 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your eagle-eye review! Regarding the list of countries, we do have Korea, North and Korea, South in the list. That seems to be the convention for listing the Koreas in country lists on Wikipedia. I added Turkey to Asia and will remove it from Europe (it appears twice on the Wikipedia list). Cyprus is only listed in Asia. My suggestion would be to leave it in Asia so that we remain true to our source. But, of course, final decision rests with you and the group. WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 17:04, 20 September 2020 (UTC)
 * here are two general use images to consider


 * Thanks for the quick work on the images. I think the one with the larger heart will be most suitable for general purpose use.
 * I like the one with the larger heart too. WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 18:36, 20 September 2020 (UTC)
 * I realize that historically there has been some confusion as to whether Cyprus was in Europe or Asia but despite your list, now that it has been a full member of the European Union since 2004, I think we need to include it under Europe. (See also List of sovereign states and dependent territories in Europe) But if you feel strongly about it, let's include it in both the European and Asian lists. Personally, I don't see any problem including Russia and Turkey in both Asian and European lists. The largest cities in both (Moscow and Istanbul) are in Europe while the largest areas of territory are in Asia. The inclusion of individuals in one or the other will probably depend on where they were born and where they live(d). I think it would be strange to include women from Vladivostok as Europeans or those from Kaliningrad as Asians. You might have seen from my exchanges below that I have been updating Asian redlists including WikiProject Women in Red/API Women which now gives a full listing of the Asian countries for which we have Wikidata redlists. I think the only country we still need to cover is Macau which is a special case (and if you wish I'll add Cyprus). I hope to create the contest meetup page tomorrow.--Ipigott (talk) 17:42, 20 September 2020 (UTC)
 * I am only concerned about unintended consequences of straying from the list as published. Sometimes something as innocuous as a country grouping offends someone in some way. I have no strong (or weak) feelings about where anything is, I'd just prefer to be able to say, "well, take it up with the original creators of the list". I defer to your preference, especially as you are more keenly aware of how be to be inclusive. As you proceed with creating the meet-up page please delete or rearrange as you see fit. It is exciting that we have redlists to offer. WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 18:36, 20 September 2020 (UTC)
 * To get back to you on the image, while I thought the silhouette looked fine for Africa, I was wondering if the curly hair was suitable for Asian women who tend to have flat, rather long hair. Perhaps you could create a silhouette more along the lines of these. Sorry to be so fussy, but it would be great if we could change the silhouette for each continent. What do you think?--Ipigott (talk) 19:30, 20 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Not fussy - it is fun. I didn't even realize I wasn't using the standard lady(!) Image swapped (see above). Hope you like. It was closest silhouette to the copyrighted shutterstock image. Couldn't find a-one with flowing hair.-- WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 21:07, 20 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Do you think looks more "Asian"?--Ipigott (talk) 12:06, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
 * I'll work up an image for us and ping you when it is posted. WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 15:24, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Posted, see the logo image above. I left the Asia barnstar with the previous silhouette so you can compare. It is just as easy to revert one as change the other. I like them both. Perhaps the newest one for Asia and the one with the messy bun for Europe? I could also change the color of the heart or silhouette if the group wants to be sure the participants notice the change between quarters/continents. I can't change any colors in the background map. WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 17:36, 21 September 2020 (UTC)


 * I'm not too sure about about Public health officials as who was going to make a redlist has not edited since 11 September. Perhaps we should just concentrate on STEM, the Asia continental contest, and the two continuing priorities: BLM and #1day1woman. I think that'll be more than enough to keep people busy. Unless there are further suggestions, I'll start preparing the meetup pages tomorrow. I would like to inform pertinent wikiprojects (including those on the Asian countries) about our contest once our invitations have gone out.--Ipigott (talk) 09:24, 20 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Works for me . We can always add the public health officials list if it appears later to the STEM editathon. SusunW (talk) 13:46, 20 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Concur. --Rosiestep (talk) 13:57, 20 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Agreed! Megalibrarygirl (talk) 14:43, 20 September 2020 (UTC)
 * About the list of Asian countries, Hong Kong is usually not included in the list of missing articles for Chinese women. It might be the same for Macau too. Please list them separately. Corachow (talk) 13:52, 20 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks for this reminder. We already have a redlist for Hong Kong. There is even a redlist for Hong Kong actresses. Perhaps can create a redlist for Q14773 Macau too. If you want to add redlinks for Hong Kong and Macau, you can do so on WikiProject Women in Red/API Women.--Ipigott (talk) 15:32, 20 September 2020 (UTC)
 * ✅ see above list. Have I listed them correctly? WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 17:09, 20 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Just search previous Women in Red events (2019 and 2018) Hong Kong was listed separately from China and Macau was not listed at all. The official status of the two cities is "Special Administrative Region". Corachow (talk) 17:20, 20 September 2020 (UTC)

I would welcome any comments on my first draft of WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/178.--Ipigott (talk) 10:24, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
 * : If you are reasonably happy with #178 and #179, it would be good to get the invitations out in the next day or two as I'll then be able to alert others (including wikiprojects) about our contest and post it on the contests page. There are quite a few editors who do not contribute to WiR regularly but are always happy to take part in contests. Rosie, maybe you could liaise with WP Asian Month. Perhaps we should list our contest under Subcontests on the Wikipedia Asian Month page. Are you going to be the rep for the EN wiki once again.--Ipigott (talk) 11:54, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
 * I think the pages for 178 and 179 look good. I made an invitation. Let me know how it looks. Megalibrarygirl (talk) 14:12, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks for creating 178 and 179 plus the invitation to which I added just a few words. I think we're all set for MassMessaging! --Rosiestep (talk) 14:38, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
 * I can send out the Mass Message if we're ready. Megalibrarygirl (talk) 14:46, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
 * That would be great, Megalibrarygirl, but just to be safe, maybe wait for one more set of eyes to review? --Rosiestep (talk) 14:49, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
 * The invitation looks fine to me.--Ipigott (talk) 14:52, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
 * OK, if there's no objection, I'll send out the invite. Megalibrarygirl (talk) 15:00, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
 * I made one teeny change articlr to article on 178, but other than that, they look fine to me. SusunW (talk) 15:03, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Awesome! I think it's ready to go. Thanks all. --Rosiestep (talk) 15:06, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Chiming in to say I think October ideas look great. Thanks everyone for their efforts! Looking forward to the STEM event in particular!TJMSmith (talk) 18:00, 21 September 2020 (UTC)

Women textile artists with WikiProject Textile Arts
Would WiR be interested in collaborating with WikiProject Textile Arts to create and improve the articles of (women) textile artists? Many are included in the redlist at WikiProject Women in Red/Crafts. TA member User:PKM also shared her list of textile artists in Wikidata that do not have articles on English Wikipedia. Plenty of work to be done. Enby (talk) 22:20, 10 September 2020 (UTC)


 * This looks like an interesting suggestion. Perhaps we could target women artisans in general but emphasize the interest in covering textile artists and designers (for which also has the Wikidata redlist: Textile designers).--Ipigott (talk) 10:32, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
 * This sounds great! Enby (talk) 19:45, 17 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Definitely interested and would participate! Penny Richards (talk) 16:31, 11 September 2020 (UTC)


 * I think this is a great idea - I guess there's also textile scientists/technicians too? I listened to this documentaryhttps://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/w3ct03nx on the women who sewed space suits and it was a whole world of textiles and space history I knew NOTHING about! (Lajmmoore (talk) 07:13, 22 September 2020 (UTC))

Film
Proposing film after reading this article. Alternatively, we could expand it to "screen" (film + TV) or to "stage + screen". --Rosiestep (talk) 02:12, 10 July 2020 (UTC)
 * This is a fun idea, and I could see any of those options being done (I definitely miss those sleepover movies...) . If film, it might be useful to put a focus on behind-the-scene women (directors, screenwriters, producers, cinematographers, editors, etc) + their works. According to this gender gap data tool, women film actors are one of the most equally represented types of bios on Wikipedia (job-wise, at least; although, of course, we can always have more), but directors & screenwriters are much less represented. - Whisperjanes (talk) 02:43, 12 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks, . And I agree that all the 'non-actor' occupations should be included for this event, e.g. not just 'actors', though some people will want to focus on them. Let's go broad ... stage and screen occupations ... all the redlists we can come up with. --Rosiestep (talk) 04:29, 12 September 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm wondering about instead of film, which we have done several times, or in a broader media effort, we do radio? Lots and lots of radio pioneers we are missing. For example: Dolly Banks SusunW (talk) 22:45, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
 * I love this! Big fan of radio, might even widen the net to audiobook narrators and podcasters (for folks who enjoy doing BLPs). - Penny Richards (talk) 23:00, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
 * This has several Black women pioneers. SusunW (talk) 17:50, 13 October 2020 (UTC)
 * So maybe: Stage+Screen+Radio+Podcast? This would open the door to some favorites and some new options. Possible WikiProject collaborators: Television, Film, Stagecraft, Theatre, Musical Theatre, Radio, and Podcasting. Maybe decide soon whom to include/exclude so that they have time to prepare? --Rosiestep (talk) 18:15, 13 October 2020 (UTC)


 * AfroCine Months of African Cinema will still be ongoing in November 2020, is there a way we can use one stone to kill multiple birds? HandsomeBoy (talk) 20:07, 13 October 2020 (UTC)
 * , yes indeed! --Rosiestep (talk) 01:00, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

Firming up for November
New * Textile arts WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/180 WIR-180 * Stage+Screen+Radio+Podcast WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/181 WIR-181 Ongoing * #1day1woman: WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/150 WIR-150 * BLM/anti-discrimination: WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/173 WIR-173 * Asia contest: WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/178 WIR-178 Invite: WikiProject Women in Red/Outreach/2020

As Wiki Asia Month can be addressed through our Women in Asia Contest, it looks to me as if we have just two new priorities: Textile artists and Stage + screen. Maybe for Stage + screen, we should not only address all the occupations but also the films and other productions created or directed by women. I'm all for collaboration with all the wikiprojects mentioned as well as with AfroCine.--Ipigott (talk) 14:38, 25 October 2020 (UTC)
 * I believe you are still our representative for Wikipedia Asian Month. If so, perhaps you would like to adapt #178 to explain how participants can take part in both contests. It looks to me as if all our own contest articles will also qualify for Asian Month. Unless there are further reactions here, I'll prepare Textile artists and Stage + screen tomorrow.--Ipigott (talk) 13:40, 27 October 2020 (UTC)
 * , I really don't have a special releationship with Wiki Asia Month... mostly, I'm just friends with some of those folks. I think whatever we did last year will be fine for this year, though, if anyone else wants to take the lead and make changes, that is fine with me. P.S. I am dealing with Day 3 of the 5th Public Safety Power Shutoff (PSPS) of 2020 for my region so my online time is very limited -e.g. respond to messages once per day- till the power is restored, which is projected to be late tonight. --Rosiestep (talk) 17:18, 27 October 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm good with that, except I thought we agreed it is Stage+Screen+Radio+Podcast. SusunW (talk) 14:51, 27 October 2020 (UTC)
 * , I thought so, too. --Rosiestep (talk) 17:18, 27 October 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm good with whatever we decide. Keep me posted. :) Megalibrarygirl (talk) 15:04, 27 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Then it'll be Stage+Screen+Radio+Podcast - quite a mouthful!--Ipigott (talk) 18:15, 27 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Power has been restored so I can create the invite if you let me know when it's time for that. --Rosiestep (talk) 22:52, 27 October 2020 (UTC)
 * I've created the two meetup pages but maybe you could review the redlinks sections. For Textile arts, I'm not too sure how we should display the WD lists from user PKM. Maybe they are OK as they are but we could also "adopt" them on WiR and display them in the usual way. As for Stage+Screen+Radio+Podcast, you'll see I've included a number of WD links but I think there might be come confusion as to whether we should present more actresses and performers as we seem to want to include women pioneers in radio. Maybe we should just leave things as they are and see what people do.--Ipigott (talk) 15:39, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks, for creating Textile Arts (#180) and Stage+Screen+Radio+Podcast (#181). For 180, I created this WD lists of textile artists, designers, engineers, scientists; weavers and added it to its editathon page. I removed the PKM lists, as they appeared to duplicate the names on our list but if you think we should include the PKM lists because of additional information they might provide, I'm fine with that. For 181, I created this Podcasters WD list and added it to the 181 editathon page. I also found a Radio personalities WD list and added it to 181. --Rosiestep (talk) 17:32, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
 * I think if we want people to write bios on actors and performers as well, we should include some of the wikilists. When I read through the event page, it looked like behind-the-scenes & radio was the focus - having the Wikilists I think would signal to editors that it's open to actors/performers too. But I'm fine either way, with whatever everyone thinks is best. It just depends on what we want to emphasize. - Whisperjanes (talk) 17:25, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
 * For the time being, I think it's just as well we are focusing mainly on back-stage people. But let's see how it all goes. I don't think we should penalize contributors for adding actresses, etc.--Ipigott (talk) 19:27, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
 * , I've created the November invite. Would you please doublecheck it, plus the meetup pages, etc.? Thank you. --Rosiestep (talk) 17:47, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Glad to hear you have power again . The invites and meetup pages look fine to me. SusunW (talk) 18:11, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
 * I think they look good, too. Want me to mass message? Megalibrarygirl (talk) 18:17, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
 * that would be great; thanks! --Rosiestep (talk) 18:34, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
 * ✅ :) Megalibrarygirl (talk) 18:51, 28 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Everything looks fine to me too but I think we owe it to user PKM to acknowledge the redlists on textile art on Wikidata. They were after all the basis of our involvement. I'll do so when I send the invitation to the various wikiprojects. Thanks, btw, for creating the new WiR WD Textile links as I suggested. It looks really good. I hope our focus on stage, screen, etc., will bring in better results than October. Despite the contest, we have progressed more slowly than the other major Wikipedia language versions. And while I'm here,, I'm really impressed with all the new articles you are creating on women's suffrage in the various U.S. states - great stuff! I look forward to more and more.--Ipigott (talk) 19:21, 28 October 2020 (UTC)

Geofocus
Continuing with Asian contest.

Philanthropists
As there haven't been any new suggestions for December, how about "Philanthropists and benefactors"? We already have a redlist. Perhaps it could be extended to include benefactors (Q4887411).--Ipigott (talk) 09:54, 24 November 2020 (UTC)

Firming up for December
New * Women who died in 2020: WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/182 WIR-182 * Philanthropists: WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/183 WIR-183 Ongoing * #1day1woman: WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/150 WIR-150 * BLM/anti-discrimination: WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/173 WIR-173 * Asia contest: WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/178 WIR-178 Invite: WikiProject Women in Red/Outreach/2020

Pinging you all to see if you have any new ideas or are happy with just Women who died in 2020 and Philanthropists and benefactors. We still have one more month of our Asian contest and BLM/Anti-discrimination in addition to #1day1woman.--Ipigott (talk) 09:54, 24 November 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm good with those . That will be a big month for the holidays and I surely will be finished with the poll tax article by then. SusunW (talk) 13:06, 24 November 2020 (UTC)
 * I like the philanthropist event. Could we do a repeat of the Seasonal celebrations theme? There is the crowdsourced list. There are a ton of December holidays. Another idea is an Arabic speakers theme. UN Arabic Language Day is December 18. TJMSmith (talk) 13:32, 24 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Recent Deaths/Philanthropists/Asia/BLM/1day1 -- that seems like plenty to me! Penny Richards (talk) 15:08, 24 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Recent Deaths/Philanthropists/Asia/BLM/1day1woman seems plenty to me, too. --Rosiestep (talk) 15:45, 24 November 2020 (UTC)
 * All sounds good to me. Alanna the Brave (talk) 16:29, 24 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Sounds great to me also! Thanks all! TJMSmith (talk) 17:54, 24 November 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm good with the theme, also. Can't believe it's almost December! Megalibrarygirl (talk) 21:48, 24 November 2020 (UTC)


 * OK, unless there are any major objections, I'll prepare the December meetup pages tomorrow. We can try to cover the Arabic speakers in our current Asian contest and in the African follow up in January.--Ipigott (talk) 17:33, 24 November 2020 (UTC)
 * et al, No objections here. The updated barnstars for Women in Asia are in the talk page. Shall I distribute them for November again as I did in October - after Ian has determined the rankings? I can tweak the text in any of the barnstars for any recipient.   WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 17:44, 24 November 2020 (UTC)
 * I don't think you need me to determine the rankings. Please feel free to distribute the awards for the winners and the other participants. You did a great job at the end of October.--Ipigott (talk) 17:53, 24 November 2020 (UTC)


 * I've prepared Women who died in 2020 and Philanthropists. It might be useful to extend the redlink list on philanthropists to include benefactors (Q4887411) (which appears to be a higher category which includes philanthropists). Perhaps could help with this. You'll see that like last year, 2020 deaths runs into January.--Ipigott (talk) 10:45, 25 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you, . I have created the December invite. Can everyone who is available please review the meetup pages, talkpage templates, and the invite? If they are okay,, are you available to MassMessage it? --Rosiestep (talk) 15:53, 25 November 2020 (UTC)
 * , I can mass message. Let me look over the pages. Megalibrarygirl (talk) 15:59, 25 November 2020 (UTC)
 * If everything looks OK to everyone (it looks OK to me), I'll send it out. Megalibrarygirl (talk) 20:35, 25 November 2020 (UTC)
 * As there have been no further reactions, I think it's OK to send it out today.--Ipigott (talk) 10:37, 26 November 2020 (UTC)