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Suggestion by Gråbergs Gråa Sång (2024-04-11)
A piece of research, may be worth a mention:Wikipedia and the Outsider Within: Black Feminism and Social Inequality in Knowledge Sharing. Afaict it hasn't been mentioned. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 14:56, 11 April 2024 (UTC)


 * @Gråbergs Gråa Sång I don't know if it will be included in this issue's RR column, but we'll look into it! Oltrepier (talk) 10:27, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
 * @Oltrepier Just thought of looking at this page, huh? ;-) Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 10:42, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

Suggestion by Another Believer (2024-04-11)
The Signpost should write about the Joint Statement on Palestine:
 * https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Joint_Statement_on_Palestine

-- Another Believer ( Talk ) 16:49, 11 April 2024 (UTC)


 * @Another Believer It likely won't make the cut for the upcoming issue, but we'll look into it! Oltrepier (talk) 10:27, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

Suggestion by Avessa (2024-04-16)
The Signpost should write about...

Yuri Lushchai, an admin and a member of the Arbitration Committee on ruwiki, who died during Russian shelling of a village near Bakhmut (ruwiki discussion, Kramatorsk Post, Pro100media, Suspilne, Strana, Radio Svoboda). Avessa (talk) 20:16, 16 April 2024 (UTC)


 * @Avessa Thank you for flagging it: it likely won't make the cut for the upcoming issue, but we'll look into it! Oltrepier (talk) 10:28, 22 April 2024 (UTC)


 * Hello Oltrepier. You might also want to check how Wikinews article was able to raise awareness to this tragic event. With regards, Oleg Y.  (talk) 01:41, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

Suggestion by Arcorann (2024-04-18)
The Signpost should write about... Wikimedia Foundation Joins as an Associate Member of the Unicode Consortium (2024-03-28). Haven't seen this mentioned yet. Arcorann (talk) 13:24, 18 April 2024 (UTC)


 * @Arcorann It likely won't make the cut for the upcoming issue, but we'll look into it! Oltrepier (talk) 10:28, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

Suggestion by Jmabel (2024-04-27)
The Signpost should write about the recently completed Wikimedia Summit 2024. Here is my report back to my affiliate group; I imagine there are other reports like this that can be used as source materials, but weirdly I haven't seen any linked yet. Jmabel &#124; Talk 13:46, 27 April 2024 (UTC)


 * @Jmabel It seems like Bluerasberry is already on it, but thank you for flagging it, nevertheless! I'd suggest you to keep in touch with him (if you haven't already), so you can work together on the draft! Oltrepier (talk) 07:58, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
 * @Bluerasberry, feel more than free to incorporate some of my notes, and to get hold of me if I can be useful beyond that. - Jmabel &#124; Talk 14:38, 1 May 2024 (UTC)

Suggestion by PAC2 (2024-05-16)
The Signpost should write about... Categories of created articles.

Last year, I published an article about a set of tools to analyse the list of articles created by a user. I've just developed a new tool which analyses all categories associated to the list of articles created by a user.

PAC2 (talk) 21:44, 16 May 2024 (UTC)


 * based on last year's article, this one should probably be accepted, but I'm not in my comfort zone on tech. Smallbones( smalltalk ) 18:00, 14 July 2024 (UTC)

Suggestion by Ham II (2024-05-21)
The Signpost should write about... Trump’s social media account shares a campaign video with a headline about a ‘unified Reich’ (Associated Press): "A video posted to Donald Trump’s account on his social media network included references to a “unified Reich” among hypothetical news headlines if he wins the election in November." ... "At least one of the headlines flashing in the video appears to be text that is copied verbatim from a Wikipedia entry on World War I [for clarification, it's the article World War I]: 'German industrial strength and production had significantly increased after 1871, driven by the creation of a unified Reich'." Ham II (talk) 14:51, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

Suggestion by Mike Peel (2024-05-22) - Sibling Project Lifecycle call for feedback
The Signpost should write about the call for feedback on the procedure for Sibling Project Lifecycle.

See Victoria's email to wikimedia-l and diff post for details. This is a call for feedback on a key part of the work of the m:Wikimedia Foundation Community Affairs Committee/Sister Projects Task Force, which aims to revive the discussions and processes for opening new Wikimedia projects, as well as considering the overall lifecycle with our projects, including procedures for closing projects. Feedback is open until June 23rd, and there will be open calls on 23 and 30 May on this topic. The task force is open to answering questions about this work, ideally on the talk page. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 13:30, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

Suggestion by Gråbergs Gråa Sång (2024-05-26)
The Signpost should write about... Wikipedia’s Indian problem: settler colonial erasure of native American knowledge and history on the world’s largest encyclopedia. Something for the recent research page. Previously by the same author: Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 17:13, 26 May 2024 (UTC)


 * In a related story, WikiProject Indigenous peoples of North America has been accused of engaging in a campaign to discredit state-recognized tribes, among other things. This could result in legal action against editors by some tribes. See this tumblr post by moniquill. Also, one of the editors mentioned in the paper (Pingnova) has also commented on said tumblr post. There’s definitely something worth investigating here, but that might be outside of the signpost’s scope. MRN2electricboogaloo (talk) 08:14, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Article-writer Kyle Keeler invokes Klein and Grabowski, maybe Arbcom will feel obliged to initiate another case. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:19, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Ah, I see discussion at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Indigenous_peoples_of_North_America. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:21, 27 May 2024 (UTC)

Suggestion by Piotrus (2024-06-22)
The Signpost should write about WikiProject Intertranswiki/OKA. TL;DR - WikiProject related to an NGO iniative about paying editors to translate articles between Wikipedias. Already dozens have been done. I think it is a fascinating initative, and some may even find it a bit controversial (interesting COI/PAID angle). I might help with the article but probably not until early July (busy grading students now...).

Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 02:37, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

Suggestion by Ham II (2024-06-26)
The Signpost should write about... New Study Confirms Long-Held Conservative Suspicions of Wikipedia Bias. A search I've done for "David Rozado Wikipedia bias" has brought up various right-leaning sites reporting on this in recent days. Ham II (talk) 09:53, 26 June 2024 (UTC)

Suggestion by Bri (2024-06-27): Forgotten and forlorn
The Signpost should write about these forgotten articles. Several of them on the forgotten articles report (which I recently found hidden in a hard-to-find "special pages" menu for the first time, as a 20+ year WP editor possibly only present in the mobile skin?) just passed the 10 year point without any edits. Might make a fun short piece. ☆ Bri (talk) 15:38, 27 June 2024 (UTC)


 * This one would be perfect for me, as I like writing about Wikipedia peculiarities. I wasn't aware that Wikipedia kept track of forgotten articles. I'll see if I can write something interesting, maybe for the next next issue. Thanks for the suggestion. Svampesky  ( talk ) 18:20, 29 June 2024 (UTC)

Suggestion by Baratiiman (2024-07-05)
The Signpost should write about...

Abuse of wikipedia because of wikidata. the two projects should not be so closely intertwined and interconnected in the way they currently are, the two projects while they should be linked the current state does not help neither. it is vulnerability being exploited through various ways.

The Signpost should write also about... WP:Trust & Safety not doing anything while https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Steward_requests/Miscellaneous#Fawikt_vandal my request for a obvious vandal being blocked is remained open for 10 days. Baratiiman (talk) 08:30, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

Suggestion by CptViraj (2024-07-09)
Hi. Someone might be interested in writing about this, Wikipedia just got summoned by Delhi High Court in "ANI MEDIA PVT. LTD. v. WIKIMEDIA FOUNDATION INC AND ORS." defamation suit. -- CptViraj (talk) 06:10, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

Suggestion by Agucova (2024-07-11)
The Signpost should write about the recent Reliable sources saga. This will be difficult to cover and navigate because it spans two decades of Wikipedia history, and I suspect it's going to be a very controversial topic (because it touches on so many internal conflicts), but I think the community will need to reflect around what happened, what our response will be, and how we can prevent things like these from happening again. agucova (talk) 14:45, 11 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Note that this is getting a lot of attention outside of Wikipedia. See here for the Twitter discussion. The article was released yesterday and the tweet already has 600k views. agucova (talk) 14:46, 11 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Frankly, this just looks like a hit piece aimed at User:David Gerard and complaining that Wikipedians make use of their common sense in sorting out reliable and unreliable sources. I can't see any reason we would publishing anything based on this suggestion. Smallbones( smalltalk ) 17:06, 13 July 2024 (UTC)

Suggestion by Jmabel (2024-07-12)
A recent discussion on Commons suggests strong support there for limiting cross-wiki uploads to Commons to users who are not autoconfirmed, and some support for eliminating these cross-wiki uploads entirely. Several admins weighed in to say that the affected wikis, especially major ones like en-wiki, need to have some voice in the matter. Nothing is likely to move forward at this time, but because there was strong consensus to move in this general direction, it probably deserves some coverage, if only to stimulate further discussion. - Jmabel &#124; Talk 20:25, 12 July 2024 (UTC)

Jmabel &#124; Talk 20:25, 12 July 2024 (UTC)


 * I'm not clear on what they want to prohibit. Are they (commonists) asking to have a monopoly on what photos can be published on enWiki? Are they saying that anybody (who hasn't been banned there) can't upload pix to Commons? Smallbones( smalltalk ) 17:13, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
 * No. In fact, this would not affect uploads that place the image directly onto en-wiki, nor about coming overtly to Commons and uploading there (which any en-wiki user can do unless they have been blocked on Commons), nor is it any sort of a policy change about what images Commons will host; this is about uploading to Commons from en-wiki without explicitly logging into Commons or even viewing a Commons page.
 * The proposal is that not everybody who uses en-wiki (and the other Wikipedias) should be able to use the Special:Upload tool that operates within en-wiki (and its analogues in the other Wikipedias) to place images on Commons, rather than on that particular Wikipedia. In particular, they are saying that if you are not autoconfirmed on en-wiki, you almost certainly should not be allowed to do that; some are saying you shouldn't be allowed to do that at all. Instead, you'd have to use one of the upload tools actively supported by Commons, such as commons:Special:UploadWizard, which has considerably more detailed instructions intended to discourage the uploading of copyvios, or commons:Special:Upload, which is very bare-bones and used mostly be expert users.
 * For what it's worth: what triggered this was a report from the WMF that leaves little doubt that the majority of such cross-wiki uploads by non-autoconfirmed users turn out to be copyright violations and end up deleted (even with some filters that prevent a lot of copyvios ever being uploaded). Further, there is very strong anecdotal evidence (both from WMF and from within Commons) that a fair number of such users are very disgruntled, and often very confused about where to take up the issue because the actual deletion is on a website they didn't even interact with when they uploaded. There may be some "gentler" possible solutions than this one, but there is definitely a real problem here: lots of relatively new users uploading copyvios, which are then deleted, and they are often unhappy and don't know where to turn to even ask. - Jmabel &#124; Talk 19:21, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
 * OK, we're on the same page now, it's A recent discussion on Commons and there's a 72 page WMF report (which I haven't read!). I've pinged AC and R-th, assuming that they may know how to write this up for The Signpost. I personally would be at a loss. As I understand it, the problem is that newbies come to enWiki or arWiki, when they click an "Upload photo" link they are attempting to upload to *Commons* but the uploading software has inadequate instructions on copyrights, etc. adding extra work. So the folks at Commons need to delete more files. Most folks at The Signpost might have trouble writing this up. Any volunteers? It might go u nder "Opinion" or perhaps as a "Technology report".  Smallbones( smalltalk ) 20:56, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
 * When newbies come and attempt to upload using the tool built into the visual editor, it allows them to upload directly to Commons without giving any of the Commons warnings. This will show up in the edit summary as a "cross-wiki upload"; the tool is briefly described on c:Commons:Cross-wiki media upload tool and on [[:c:Commons:Cross-wiki upload].
 * But, yes, I recall having deleted a bunch of things uploaded cross-wiki, because "own work" is so easy to lazily click if one does not actually care about copyright status. I've supported blocking them until it is improved in that discussion, so I won't be touching this one signpost-wise. — Red-tailed hawk  (nest) 22:57, 13 July 2024 (UTC)