Wikipedia talk:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents/Soft blocking AOL

Close RFC, gather evidence, contact AOL via WMF, and review
This RFC has been running for two weeks, and clearly is in a "no consensus" sort of place, and that seems unlikely to change. I suggest In addition, I suggest continuing discussion on alternatives whilst evidence collection is in progress, and setting a cut-off date (perhaps 31 March) for passing that evidence to WMF, assuming that discussion continues to support that plan. Rd232 talk 14:13, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
 * 1) closing it now (without, obviously, considering the proposal permanently rejected), and
 * 2) focussing on the collection of evidence to show the necessity of the soft block.
 * 3) On the basis of that evidence WMF should be asked to contact AOL.
 * 4) In the very likely event that AOL will do nothing, this would also ensure getting WMF's opinion on implementing the soft block - which for an action of this magnitude is highly desirable, bordering on essential.
 * Clarifying: if WMF after point 4 agrees or says it's up to us, we can then have another debate about the necessity/wisdom of a soft block, having spent a month discussing alternative options and collecting/discussing evidence. Rd232 talk 18:03, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

Maybe you should provide a link so others can find the RFC? Suomi Finland 2009 (talk) 16:06, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Click on the "project" tab, above. This is the RFC's talk page. --Floquenbeam (talk) 16:28, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

Thank you. There was a link to this talk page from elsewhere! Suomi Finland 2009 (talk)

Hope AOL will not think Wikipedia is warring with them.

Looks like the bad editor is Canadian. There are fewer Canadians than ATT subscribers so collateral damage will be less if we block all of Canada, which I don't favor. Suomi Finland 2009 (talk) 17:57, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

Looks like Rd232's plan already has a revenge component. The conclusion has already been made but there is a plan to collect evidence. That sounds really bad, like a kangaroo court, even if it is unintentional. Let's try to make Wikipedia look honest! Suomi Finland 2009 (talk) 18:00, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
 * There is no "revenge". There is a collection of evidence on how bad the problem is, leading into asking AOL to act on the basis of that evidence, and ultimately (if they don't) discussion about enacting the soft block if the evidence justifies it. A lot of the RFC discussion is about the lack of evidence showing the problem is bad enough to justify such a dramatic action. Rd232 talk 18:05, 23 February 2010 (UTC)


 * I don't see why we can't discuss this issue further. Evidence is still being gathered and efforts are still being coordinated. - Tbsdy (formerly Ta bu shi da yu) talk 02:50, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Can you get AOL in Canada or maybe the vandal is a Canadian living in the USA?  The articles are mostly Canadian. Suomi Finland 2009 (talk) 15:59, 24 February 2010 (UTC)