Wikipedia talk:Article Rescue Squadron/Archive 23

Discussion moved from WP:ANI
Returned back to WP:ANI. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire - past ops) 10:43, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
 * link? -- Banj e  b oi   00:49, 5 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Lengthy discussion here.

Nadya Suleman

 * Articles for deletion/Nadya Suleman (2nd nomination)
 * Nadya Denise Suleman, also known as Natalie Doud,(link removed), Hollywoodgrind.com is an American woman who gained international notoriety following multiple media interviews she conducted regarding the birth of her octuplets on January 26, 2009, which, in addition to her six previous children ages 7 and under, caused her to become the mother of 14 young children --21:30, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Nadya Denise Suleman, also known as Natalie Doud,(link removed), Hollywoodgrind.com is an American woman who gained international notoriety following multiple media interviews she conducted regarding the birth of her octuplets on January 26, 2009, which, in addition to her six previous children ages 7 and under, caused her to become the mother of 14 young children --21:30, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

AVADirect

 * Articles for deletion/AVADirect
 * AVADirect, Inc. is a custom computer manufacturing company located on the outskirts of Cleveland, Ohio in the small town of Twinsburg, OH --17:44, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
 * AVADirect, Inc. is a custom computer manufacturing company located on the outskirts of Cleveland, Ohio in the small town of Twinsburg, OH --17:44, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

Dog poop girl

 * Articles for deletion/Dog poop girl (4th nomination)
 * Dog poop girl refers to a 2005 incident in a South Korea subway car when a young woman's lap dog defecated on the floor and the woman was photographed on another passenger's cell phone camera because the "poop" was not cleaned up after numerous requests. --17:44, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Dog poop girl refers to a 2005 incident in a South Korea subway car when a young woman's lap dog defecated on the floor and the woman was photographed on another passenger's cell phone camera because the "poop" was not cleaned up after numerous requests. --17:44, 7 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Redirected and now at DRV. -- Banj e  b oi   05:42, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

Template:Rescue

 * Rescue
 * Templates for deletion
 * The main rescue template for the Article Rescue Squadron. --17:44, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

Template:Rescue/testcases
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 * Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Template:Rescue/testcases
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Bad girl art

 * Articles for deletion/Bad girl art
 * For information on bad girl art on movie posters see bad girl movies. ]]Bad girl art, is a description of a certain style of drawing superheroines and other female characters in comic books, coined after the analogy of of good girl art --23:12, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
 * For information on bad girl art on movie posters see bad girl movies. ]]Bad girl art, is a description of a certain style of drawing superheroines and other female characters in comic books, coined after the analogy of of good girl art --23:12, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

Platinum Blonde (Paris Hilton album)

 * Articles for deletion/Platinum Blonde (Paris Hilton album)
 * Paris Hilton expects her second studio album will be released in summer 2009. (link removed) by BILL HARRIS, Winnipeg Sun, 1 March 2009 --23:12, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Paris Hilton expects her second studio album will be released in summer 2009. (link removed) by BILL HARRIS, Winnipeg Sun, 1 March 2009 --23:12, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

Running Waters Productions

 * Articles for deletion/Kriss Perras Running Waters
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Red Sox-Rays rivalry

 * Articles for deletion/Red Sox-Rays rivalry
 * The Rays–Red Sox rivalry is the rivalry between the Tampa Bay Rays and the Boston Red Sox, and as of 2008, the Rays lead the season series 10-8 --07:00, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
 * The Rays–Red Sox rivalry is the rivalry between the Tampa Bay Rays and the Boston Red Sox, and as of 2008, the Rays lead the season series 10-8 --07:00, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

User:A20anna/Kriss Perras Running Waters

 * Articles for deletion/Kriss Perras Running Waters
 * Kriss Perras Running Waters (born August 3, 1966) is an American writer, director, actress, poet, painter, photographer and musician --22:00, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Kriss Perras Running Waters (born August 3, 1966) is an American writer, director, actress, poet, painter, photographer and musician --22:00, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

Murray Hill (performer)

 * Articles for deletion/Murray Hill (performer)
 * of New York City.]]Murray Hill is a well-known New York City comedian and entertainer. "Murray Hill" is a character played in drag by a woman who will not reveal her identity, and who even in private settings will maintain the Hill character --13:00, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
 * of New York City.]]Murray Hill is a well-known New York City comedian and entertainer. "Murray Hill" is a character played in drag by a woman who will not reveal her identity, and who even in private settings will maintain the Hill character --13:00, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

Barack Obama/Criticism of Barack Obama

 * Articles for deletion/Barack Obama/Criticism of Barack Obama
 * __NOINDEX__:For transclusion on: Talk:Barack ObamaThis working version is for anyone to edit - to form something like what a Criticism of Barack Obama article might actually look like --19:00, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
 * __NOINDEX__:For transclusion on: Talk:Barack ObamaThis working version is for anyone to edit - to form something like what a Criticism of Barack Obama article might actually look like --19:00, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

Botnus

 * Articles for deletion/Botnus
 * Botnus is a song off of the album Enter The Chicken by avant-garde musician and composer Buckethead, released in 2005 by Serj Tankian's Universal Music Group imprint Serjical Strike Records, and was likewise produced by Tankian --17:44, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Botnus is a song off of the album Enter The Chicken by avant-garde musician and composer Buckethead, released in 2005 by Serj Tankian's Universal Music Group imprint Serjical Strike Records, and was likewise produced by Tankian --17:44, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

Witchcraft and Wizardology Museum

 * Articles for deletion/Witchcraft and Wizardology Museum
 * The Witchcraft and Wizardology Museum in Henley Street, Stratford-upon-Avon is housed in the only remaining section of the famous White Lion Inn that still stands, an example of Elizabethan architecture that first appears in historical records in 1541 --23:12, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
 * The Witchcraft and Wizardology Museum in Henley Street, Stratford-upon-Avon is housed in the only remaining section of the famous White Lion Inn that still stands, an example of Elizabethan architecture that first appears in historical records in 1541 --23:12, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

Smokestack america

 * Articles for deletion/Smokestack america
 * "A term employed to represent the traditional manufacturing core of U.S. industry."Charnov, Bruce H --17:00, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
 * "A term employed to represent the traditional manufacturing core of U.S. industry."Charnov, Bruce H --17:00, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

Anti-article improvement shenanigans at Airi & Meiri AfD
Hi, Rescue Squadron. An article on a fairly specialized genre of Japanese entertainment has been targeted-- first incorrectly marked for Speedy Deletion, then Prodded (I removed this with a link to the Ja-Wiki article, which shows an extensive resume of the two), and then put up for AfD. All within a day of course. When I and another editor with experience in this very difficult-to-source article started working on it, the nominator began blanking out the article, and edit-warring. When I objected, he filed a complaint against me (I don't know the specifics, since I am here to work on articles, and try to avoid this kind of bullshit). Anyway, if anyone here cares, here it is in a nutshell: The Nominator, determined to delete this article without input from anyone else, has prevented work on the article, and driven away those who can work on it. I won't pursue actions against this editor, as I don't like to spend my time in this sort of thing. But this kind of thuggish anti-article improvement behavior is clearly detrimental to Wikipedia. Dekkappai (talk) 15:45, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Hmmmmmm.
 * a catalog describing promotional material (jlist.com) is definitely not a reliable source - He's right. jlist.com is an online catalog seller.
 * blogs are not reliable sources, removing unsourced material - WP:PUFFery is lame... - These sources suck. This is a catalog seller offering "DISCREET SHIPPING SERVICE", this is a blog that links to free galleries of Japanese cheesecake, and this is a fansite dedicated to cataloguing incestuous lesbian pornography.
 * remove unverfied primary source material and WP:SYNTH - Amazon, DMM, and K.M.Produce are catalog sellers.
 * same thing as before WP:SYNTH - This is important! Look at how high their page counter is!
 * same thing - Linked page is a fan wiki.
 * copyvio - Probably not CV, but definitely a table of products copied from DMM, a catalog seller.
 * not reliable source - This is a profile on a PPV network that showed some of their work. This is probably the most questionable removal; it's simple biographical data.
 * Now you.
 * rv massive deletions to last version by Cherryblossom1982 - You revert him en masse, but the talk page? Crickets.


 * Thuggish anti-improvement behavior indeed, but I don't think I'm talking about the same person you're talking about. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire - past ops) 16:30, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

The user Dekkappai is continuing his thuggish behavior. --Cerejota (talk) 05:29, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

Article AfD Alerts
Wikiprojects can now automatically monitor AfDs! Maybe this is something we could do? Ikip (talk) 01:59, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia_Signpost/2009-02-23/Article_Alerts
 * Sounds like a great idea to me. A lot of the time when people nominate AfD they have the courteousy to notify the creator and/or other major contributors, but other times it totally gets slipped under the radar like some covert assassination. Tyciol (talk) 17:26, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
 * That's a bit different. We're a clean up project as opposed to a creating project. We could use it to alert to issues with our pages though. I have a note in to see if this can be done via talkpage sections rather than static posts. -- Banj e  b oi   02:17, 5 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Update. Ive started a subpage Article Rescue Squadron/Article alerts that will show article alerts for our project pages. We have only so many but it is good to know when one is being considered for deletion or otherwise needs attention. -- Banj e  b oi   12:21, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Looking at what gets alerted, I think that this is completely useless for this project. The only articles in the ARS scope are already tagged for deletion, and it is unlikely that an RFC, GA review, ... will start at the same time. Fram (talk) 12:42, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Actually these deal only with pages that our project banner is on, not the rescue template. For instance, it would alert that our main template was at TfD. I don't see a lot of harm in having it. Also I hope that the good folks who run that system can modify alerts so we would get a talkpage thread of anything that actually needs our attention. -- Banj e  b oi   13:31, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Ah, I misunderstood. Objection withdrawn :-) Fram (talk) 14:17, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm pretty sure could set it up to watch Category:Articles for deletion and Category:Proposed deletion, but I'm not 100% sure. I'll check.Headbomb {{{sup|ταλκ}}κοντριβς – WP Physics} 16:24, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

You had the alerts set up in a weird way, so I fixed it. It's possible that you have a "template loop" error message, but that'll go away soon. In the meantime simply follow the link from you main page.Headbomb {{{sup|ταλκ}}κοντριβς – WP Physics} 06:13, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for fixing it! -- Banj e  b oi   14:27, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

Bad girl art
Please join the discussion on this article. It's not yet up for AfD but is being gutted and is in need of rescue, thanks! Chris (クリス • フィッチュ) (talk) 19:07, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I've done some clean-up there but you'll need to sort out restructuring the article to keep the images. You might want to seek experts in the area to help expand the article as if AfD were in process. -- Banj e  b oi   23:58, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Not so much restructuring, but ensuring the images meet WP:NFCC. At the moment they just appear to be plastered on at random. <b style="color:black;">Black Kite</b> 00:08, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
 * To me that means the article needs to be restructured a bit so that a logical use of the images becomes more apparent to all. I don't know the history of the article or the genre so am only able to help so much. As an artfrm, however, it does seem logical that there would be a handful of images and that's what is there now. Perhaps it's one or two more than needed but it really needs someone who knows the stuff to discern what serves our reader best. There's a BBC series Antiques Road Show which has experts who could talk at length about the history and nuances of a single artwork proving background information including historical context over time whereas you and I might just say "my, what a lovely landscape". That article needs someone versed in the artform to help make an informed judgment call. -- <u style="font-size:14px; font-family: cursive;color:#8000FF">Banj e  <u style="font-size:14px;font-family: Zapfino, sans-serif;color:deeppink">b oi   00:15, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, there's clearly no problem with having some images in an article about an artform; my only two concerns would be whether they are particularly notable or historical examples of the form, and whether this is linked to in the text. If it isn't, then they run the risk of just being decoration. Also, I wonder if we have any free images of the genre? Unlikely if the genre supposedly started in the 70s, but you never know. <b style="color:black;">Black Kite</b> 10:37, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Huh, it's bad girl comic art. I was expecting Russ Meyer. If you're looking for input, try WT:COMIC. This sounds like it's right up Sandifer's alley. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire - past ops) 11:02, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

Josh Rosenthal (musician)
I removed a db-bio tag from this article as it claims notability. I've placed some improvement tags on the article but the author has repeatedly removed them without improving the respective areas and without leaving any reasoning on the talk page. I've tried to get the author to ask me if they have questions but have not received a response. He's been putting in references to myspace which have been revered and he's been warned (by a bot) twice. He's recently added a picture which but at the same time gives credit to someone else in a caption see here.

I'm getting frustrated with this article (and its author) and I'm looking for input from other. I bring it to the ARS becuase I think it could easily be taken the AfD if the issues aren't addressed. Thanks for your time. Ol Yeller '''Talktome 21:58, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I would leave a friendly note on his talkpage. - All articles are subject to our notability guidelines but as a musician Josh Rosenthal (singer/songwriter) will be subject to Notability (music). Please also note that Wikipedia regularly gets new articles on musicians who do not yet meet these guidelines and those articles are removed. To keep this article we need to be able to verify independent coverage in reliable sources (links to newspaper articles, for instance) and notability. -- <u style="font-size:14px; font-family: cursive;color:#8000FF">Banj e  <u style="font-size:14px;font-family: Zapfino, sans-serif;color:deeppink">b oi   00:44, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Sounds good to me. I asked him if he could find some links to verify his claims on the talk page but he hasn't responded yet.  I'll leave it on his talk page and see what happens.  Thanks again.   Ol Yeller  '''Talktome 00:54, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
 * No problem. We were all new once! -- <u style="font-size:14px; font-family: cursive;color:#8000FF">Banj e  <u style="font-size:14px;font-family: Zapfino, sans-serif;color:deeppink">b oi   02:18, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I left the message on his talk page a few minutes ago. I'll wait a few days and see if we can get some references before I take anymore action. Ol Yeller '''Talktome 01:47, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Someone else took the article to AfD here. Since then, the author has responded in the AfD and had missed the messages I was leaving for him.  We're getting on the right track now but I'd appreciate it if others could help me verify the new references and contribute to the AfD.  I'm still not sure if this article is rescuable which is why I haven't added the rescue tag yet but if you believe it is, please do so.  Thanks for your time.  Ol Yeller  '''Talktome 19:26, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
 * There are now at least 3 references provided which, in my opinion, fulfill the general notability guidelines. I added the rescue tag. Sorry to have dragged this in here. Ol Yeller  '''Talktome 19:56, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

After Forever (song)

 * Articles for deletion/Killing Yourself to Live
 * "After Forever" is the second track featured on Black Sabbath's third studio album, Master of Reality --01:00, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
 * "After Forever" is the second track featured on Black Sabbath's third studio album, Master of Reality --01:00, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

Alan Cabal

 * Articles for deletion/Alan Cabal (3rd nomination)
 * Alan Cabal (born December 1 1953) is an American freelance journalist who has written for New York Press, High Times magazine, CounterPunch, Gallery magazine, and other publications --02:00, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Alan Cabal (born December 1 1953) is an American freelance journalist who has written for New York Press, High Times magazine, CounterPunch, Gallery magazine, and other publications --02:00, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Quantum bogodynamics

 * Articles for deletion/Quantum bogodynamics (2nd nomination)
 * Quantum bogodynamics is a humorous theory arising within hacker culture that characterises the bogosity of the universe.==Quantum bogodynamics==Bogosity is a humorous term used to describe the degree to which something is bogus. ==The fictional science of bogosity in hacker culture==The unit of bogosity is the lenat, named after Douglas Lenat --21:00, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Quantum bogodynamics is a humorous theory arising within hacker culture that characterises the bogosity of the universe.==Quantum bogodynamics==Bogosity is a humorous term used to describe the degree to which something is bogus. ==The fictional science of bogosity in hacker culture==The unit of bogosity is the lenat, named after Douglas Lenat --21:00, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

Danny Gokey

 * Articles for deletion/Danny Gokey (2nd nomination)
 * Daniel Jay Gokey (born April 24, 1980), popularly known as Danny Gokey, is an American singer and church music director from Milwaukee, Wisconsin, and a finalist on the eighth season of American Idol.(link removed). (link removed) American Idol. ==Personal life==Gokey started singing with his family in church but stated he would rather record mainstream music than perform strictly contemporary Christian music. (link removed) Associated Press via WNCT, February 20, 2009 --21:00, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Daniel Jay Gokey (born April 24, 1980), popularly known as Danny Gokey, is an American singer and church music director from Milwaukee, Wisconsin, and a finalist on the eighth season of American Idol.(link removed). (link removed) American Idol. ==Personal life==Gokey started singing with his family in church but stated he would rather record mainstream music than perform strictly contemporary Christian music. (link removed) Associated Press via WNCT, February 20, 2009 --21:00, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

Imperial Academy (Star Wars)

 * Articles for deletion/Imperial Academy (Star Wars) (2nd nomination)
 * In the Star Wars universe, the Imperial Academy was a system of military training programs formed by the Galactic Empire for youth from across the galaxy who wanted to become commissioned officers in the Imperial Military (Army, Navy or Stormtrooper Corps) --18:00, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
 * In the Star Wars universe, the Imperial Academy was a system of military training programs formed by the Galactic Empire for youth from across the galaxy who wanted to become commissioned officers in the Imperial Military (Army, Navy or Stormtrooper Corps) --18:00, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

Solitude (song)

 * Articles for deletion/Killing Yourself to Live
 * "Solitude" is a song by Black Sabbath, released in 1971 on their album, Master of Reality --01:00, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
 * "Solitude" is a song by Black Sabbath, released in 1971 on their album, Master of Reality --01:00, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

World of Warcraft Professions

 * Articles for deletion/World of Warcraft Professions
 * World of Warcraft is a virtual reality, massively-multiplayer online role-playing game that owes part of its complexity to players having many professions to choose from --01:30, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
 * World of Warcraft is a virtual reality, massively-multiplayer online role-playing game that owes part of its complexity to players having many professions to choose from --01:30, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Dexter (Dexter's Laboratory)

 * Articles for deletion/Dexter (Dexter&
 * Dexter is the main character and protagonist of the Genndy Tartakovsky animated series Dexter's Laboratory, originally run on Cartoon Network from 1996-2003 --01:30, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Dexter is the main character and protagonist of the Genndy Tartakovsky animated series Dexter's Laboratory, originally run on Cartoon Network from 1996-2003 --01:30, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Architectural History

 * Articles for deletion/Architectural History
 * Architectural History is the main journal of the Society of Architectural Historians of Great Britain (SAHGB).(link removed), Society of Architectural Historians of Great Britain --17:44, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Architectural History is the main journal of the Society of Architectural Historians of Great Britain (SAHGB).(link removed), Society of Architectural Historians of Great Britain --17:44, 7 March 2009 (UTC)