Wikipedia talk:Articles for deletion/2009 Israel Defense Forces T-shirt affair (2nd nomination)

Clearly Wrong application of Wiki Guidelines

 * "Given the contentious topic, is it unsurprising the amount of discussion that has been spent on this AfD."
 * Question More discussions has been made in First AFD did you also read keep comments in first discussions before you conclude a deletion


 * "The delete votes were strong, numerous, and based the argument firmly on WP:NOTNEWS." 
 * Reply Delete votes were not strong especially 3rd party votes. And even if you tell they were numerous [most votes were not from 3rd party independent, or non-IDF-defender editors] per second AFD, you should also tell they were weak if you consider first AFD
 * Also WP:NOTNEWS clearly refers to tabloid news, and article is clearly not tabloid news


 * "Some keep votes claimed that due to the nature of this event, NOTNEWS is being misapplied, and that there were adequate source to consitute notability, but I don't believe the amount nor the quality of the keep arguments outweighed the deletes and hence did not change the result."
 * When I provide more than 8 independent highest reliability international news sources neither you nor anyone else can't argue the event is not notable, or not have enough news coverage. It is a fact.

So I will open a proper case at DRV


 * 1) Per first AFD results which has wider vote in favor of keeping [which the news coverage was far less while now article is stronger per references and content] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/2009_IDF_T-Shirt_controversy
 * 2) Per clearly misapplication for WP:NOTNEWS which clearly applies to tabloid news not real human rights violations
 * 3) Per deletion serves more to IDF scandal cover up over WP:NOTNEWS, WP:NOTCENSORED
 * 4) Per various and more than enough international reliable 3rd party independent newspaper and TV coverage
 * 5) WP:Notable per The Observer, Haaretz, The Independent, Sky News, Jewish Chronicle, BBC News, CNN, Al Jazeera English
 * 6) Additionally The Insider, Washington Report on Middle East Affairs, Green Left, Huffington Post, Al Arabiya, Metro (Associated Metro Limited)
 * 7) In addition to current references, more cites and coverage about event
 * 8) http://www.theinsider.org/news/article.asp?id=2739 The Insider
 * 9) http://www.wrmea.com/archives/May-June_2009/0905016.html Washington Report on Middle East Affairs
 * 10) http://www.greenleft.org.au/2009/789/40599 Green Left
 * 11) http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/03/20/israeli-army-tshirts-mock_n_177574.html Huffington Post
 * 12) http://www.alarabiya.net/articles/2009/03/23/69053.html Al Arabiya
 * 13) Per this is no unimportant news, T-shirts banned by IDF after it has wide media coverage
 * 14) http://www.metro.co.uk/news/world/article.html?Troops_tasteless_T-shirts_banned&in_article_id=592460&in_page_id=64 Metro (Associated Metro Limited)

More sources
 * http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1072466.html 404 Haaretz
 * http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1075348.html Haaretz
 * http://www.haaretz.com/news/idf-soldiers-anti-palestinian-t-shirts-are-tasteless-1.272712
 * http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/03/23/anti-palestinian-t-shirts_n_177956.html
 * http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/2009/03/20/idf-t-shirts-boast-of-killing-babies-pregnant-women-sodomizing-hamas-leaders/ Richard Silverstein
 * http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mJp5d3ffP8 AlJazeera TV English Section
 * http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/mar/22/israel-palestinian-territories-war-crimes The Guardian
 * http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World-News/Israeli-Army-T-Shirts-Mock-Killing-Palestinian-Women-And-Children-During-Gaza-Offensive/Article/200903315245946?lpos=World_News_First_World_News_Feature_Teaser_Region_0&lid=ARTICLE_15245946_Israeli_Army_T-Shirts_Mock_Killing_Palestinian_Women_And_Children_During_Gaza_Offensive Sky News Gallery
 * http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/7960071.stm BBC
 * http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7952603.stm BBC
 * http://www.paltelegraph.com/world/uk-news/766-the-israeli-army-child-killing-unit-shoot-12-year-old Palestine Telegraph
 * http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/2009/03/23/2009-03-23_israels_military_rips_soldiers_for_weari-2.html NY Daily News
 * http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/03/23/world/main4885136.shtml
 * http://www.vocfm.co.za/index.php?&section=news&category=&vocnews=&article=45386 quote Haaretz
 * http://articles.sfgate.com/2009-03-24/news/17212568_1_t-shirts-gaza-soldiers AP
 * http://www.thenation.com/article/morality-play
 * http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,510135,00.html
 * http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/israel-military-condemns-soldiers-shocking-tshirts-1651333.html
 * http://edition.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/meast/03/23/israel.gaza.un.report/index.html
 * http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=12903

I will open a DRV later for this case. I can't claim any bad faith or intention over admin's decision. However I will note that admin has a high deletion rate at his recent AFD decisions (possibly 60-80 percent), and he only resulted near 60 articles for merge, no consensus or keep while hundreds of deletion in his latest 500 edits in WP AFD section. While I can't comment on his other decisions because I didn't read them, he clearly misinterpreted Wiki Policies and possibly did not consider previous AFD while resulting a deletion for this case. Kasaalan (talk) 20:58, 10 July 2009 (UTC)


 * More news coverage added. Kasaalan (talk) 11:08, 12 May 2010 (UTC)