Wikipedia talk:Articles for deletion/AMSN

aMSN has been downloaded over 31 million times - http://sourceforge.net/top/topalltime.php?type=downloads May I propose we delete the articles for Notepad++, TortoiseSVN and Miranda IM while we're at it? mmGTi (talk) 22:10, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

I should also add that the version 2 being developed has a (i think) never seen before feature for an IM : multiple frontends such as Qt, GTK, EFL, curses, Cocoa, web... as shown on the 2 following videos: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y82SVGFvjG4 and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rQ-1ebLx8o (Billiob (talk) 19:11, 14 December 2009 (UTC))

-- This makes no sense to me, aMSN is definitely notable enough to have its wikipedia page, the number of users who are using aMSN is in the millions, we had a few interviews made (ex: http://www.osnews.com/story/15165/Interview_Alvaro_J_Iradier_AMSN_Founder_and_Lead_Developer), I even had a Norwegian radio show call me for an interview on their radio (http://www.itavisen.no/290706/amsn-for-alle-plattformer). aMSN was also used and shown (and discussed) in some tv programs, and we've had a request from a film producer to allow him to show aMSN on his next movie. If you don't consider that 'notable enough', I don't know what could...

Also note that pretty much every mac user knows of aMSN because it's the only MSN client for mac that has webcam support (not even the official client does). aMSN is also well known and has a huge reputation of being always the first client to implement MSN specific protocols. We were the first ones to add webcam support, the first ones to add offline messaging, the first ones to add direct p2p file transfers, the first ones to add voice clips support (I reverse engineering the SIREN codec myself), and the first ones to have full audio/video conferencing capabilities (as of the latest release). And not only the first ones, but for most of these features, we are still the only ones that implement it.

Pretty much every other MSN client came to us at some point for asking us on advice or on how to implement a MSN specific feature...

There are also a huge amount of features in the official client that were copied from aMSN, as we implemented it long before them and even the Microsoft Windows Live Messenger team came to us at least a couple of times to hire any of our developers (ex: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.network.instant-messaging.amsn.devel/9086/match=hiring )

The day aMSN 0.95 was released and it got slashdoted, sourceforge went down for a couple of days.

I cannot understand how you can decide to delete the one client that has the most features for the MSN protocol (apart from the official client). If you look at the 'comparison of instant messengers' page (before amsn deletion), you'll see amsn had the best support for MSN features.

Does this satisfy your "not enough notability" concern ? Kakarotoks (talk) 20:03, 14 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Can you re-add the aMSN article ? I have already spoken for canceled the deletion — Neustradamus ( ✉  ) 01:19, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
 * No we can't, if we do, it will just get deleted.. also if I readdit we loose the history, we need to follow the policies of wikipedia and have an admin restore it. Kakarotoks (talk) 20:11, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
 * My question was for an administrator but you can request here — Neustradamus ( ✉  ) 04:42, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I posted here — Neustradamus ( ✉  ) 05:05, 16 December 2009 (UTC)