Wikipedia talk:Articles for deletion/Anthony J. Hilder (2nd nomination)

Regarding the deletion nomination
I believe that there may be some prejudice against the subject. Sure, Wikipedia shouldn't be overrun with conspiracy stuff. That goes without saying. But, there is an overly heavy handed approach to articles about conspiracy investigators like Anthony J. Hilder and Alex Jones etc. sometimes the desire to get rid of what is regarded as the Tin foil hat, Conspiracy theorist "nutjob" nonsense causes people to overlook important facts. I believe that this is the case here. I hope that in future, people would put aside their prejudices and come down a few steps back to reality. Thanks Karl Twist (talk) 06:56, 26 January 2019 (UTC)

Re-edit
I've placed revisions to refer to later as the re-edit on the article, though probably partly warranted seems to have taken a couple important references. Karl Twist (talk) 06:45, 26 January 2019 (UTC)

Editing out important content
In the late 1950s, Hilder was an A&R man for Modern Records which was owned by the Bihari Brothers, who also owned the budget Crown and Custom labels. In the early 1960s he was connected with Surf Music and was a prolific producer. According to "The Tony Hilder Story" article that appears in the Fall 1975 (No. 14) of Who Put the Bomp magazine, Hilder's name as publisher, producer etc., appears on countless records, both 45s and albums. And if it wasn't for the poor crediting on the budget releases, his name would appear more often. As a producer he produced Jim Waller's "Surfin' Wild". He was credited as producer on the Surf War various artists album. Material he composed is on the Surf-Music (ZYX) various artists album. He supervised the recordings of The Revels, a California group remembered for the instrumental hit "Church Key." He was also he president of Impact Records a label that released recordings by The Revels, Lil' Ray and The Premiers and Dave Myers and The Surftones. He had a role in providing the music for the 1961 film, The Exiles.
 * Background

Hilder's views have got him in trouble in the past. This includes getting himself ejected Lou Gordon's TV show on Ch. 15, Kaiser Broadcasting in the early seventies. A one-time staunch supporter of Ronald Reagan, Hilder a power in the Liberty Lobby became a force against the man he previously supported. In an interview with the Los Angeles Free Press, Hilder said he was a member of the Free Rightist Movement, a libertarian group. Hilder has been described as favorite fact finder for many conspiracy theorists.

Below is what I edited in as much of the background was taken out.

Revision as of 08:50, 26 January 2019
Hilder's views have got him in trouble in the past. This includes getting himself ejected Lou Gordon's TV show on Ch. 15, Kaiser Broadcasting in the early seventies. A one-time staunch supporter of Ronald Reagan, Hilder a power in the Liberty Lobby became a force against the man he previously supported. Hilder has been described as favorite fact finder for many conspiracy theorists.
 * Background

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Revision as of 08:56, 26 January 2019
Hilder's views have got him in trouble in the past. This includes getting himself ejected Lou Gordon's TV show on Ch. 15, Kaiser Broadcasting in the early seventies. A one-time staunch supporter of Ronald Reagan, Hilder a power in the Liberty Lobby became a force against the man he previously supported. In an interview with the Los Angeles Free Press, Hilder said he was a member of the Free Rightist Movement, a libertarian group. Hilder has been described as favorite fact finder for many conspiracy theorists. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Anthony_J._Hilder&diff=next&oldid=880248684 Revision as of 15:54, 26 January 2019 - Below is what I edited in with - Hilder was once described by author Ben Manning as one of the most unusual conspiracy theorists out there

Revision as of 18:34, 27 January 2019
In regards to his political stance, he was appeared Lou Gordon's TV show on Ch. 15, Kaiser Broadcasting in the early seventies. He was at one time a supporter of Ronald Reagan. In a 1972 interview with the Los Angeles Free Press, Hilder stated he was no longer a republican and identified himself as a libertarian.

He has been described as favorite fact finder for many conspiracy theorists. Hilder was once described by author Ben Manning as one of the most unusual conspiracy theorists out there.

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Anthony_J._Hilder&diff=next&oldid=880438412

And then edited out with rv - at best this seems undue - looks like padding for the article without regard to what has encyclopedic value) - Below I edited in with - (→‎Background: Political stance. Attn: Ronz - Please do not remove this content without first discussing it on AHJ Talk page. This is important part of background. See the Alex Jones page. He "Jones has described himself as a ..... ")

Revision as of 06:53, 28 January 2019
In regards to his political stance, he was appeared Lou Gordon's TV show on Ch. 15, Kaiser Broadcasting in the early seventies. He was at one time a supporter of Ronald Reagan. In a 1972 interview with the Los Angeles Free Press, Hilder stated he was no longer a republican and identified himself as a libertarian. He has also been vocal about his stance against Communism. He has been described as favorite fact finder for many conspiracy theorists. Hilder was once described by author Ben Manning as one of the most unusual conspiracy theorists out there.

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With (→‎Background: Political stance. Attn: Ronz - Please do not remove this content without first discussing it on AHJ Talk page. This is important part of background. See the Alex Jones page. He "Jones has described himself as a ..... ")

Then edited out at Latest revision as of 17:51, 28 January 2019 with - (Undid revision 880590163 by Karl Twist (talk) concerns are not addressed - please start a discussion as previously requested of you) In the late 1950s, Hilder was an A&R man for Modern Records which was owned by the Bihari Brothers, who also owned the budget Crown and Custom labels. In the early 1960s he was connected with Surf Music and was a prolific producer. According to "The Tony Hilder Story" article that appears in the Fall 1975 (No. 14) of Who Put the Bomp magazine, Hilder's name as publisher, producer etc., appears on countless records, both 45s and albums. And if it wasn't for the poor crediting on the budget releases, his name would appear more often. As a producer he produced Jim Waller's "Surfin' Wild". He was credited as producer on the Surf War various artists album. Material he composed is on the Surf-Music (ZYX) various artists album. He supervised the recordings of The Revels, a California group remembered for the instrumental hit "Church Key." He was also he president of Impact Records a label that released recordings by The Revels, Lil' Ray and The Premiers and Dave Myers and The Surftones. He had a role in providing the music for the 1961 film, The Exiles.
 * So it now looks like this ....

Hilder has been described as favorite fact finder for many conspiracy theorists.

Some articles to help improve the page

 * The Observer, 21 May 1995, The Observer 21 May 1995, The Observer Page 117 Cults Militias
 * The Times-News, March 7, 1971 - Farm Terrorism Seen
 * The Owosso Argus-Press, August 9, 1971 - Page 13 "TV Host Clips a Right-Winger"
 * The Village Voice, February 2, 1976 - Page 25 "Bozo and the Pink Pimp"
 * Arizona Republic, February 10, 1988 - Page 88 Chandler attack linked to 'Real-Estate Rapist'
 * The Spotlight, March 1, 1999 - Page 5 Hilder debates Kahlid
 * Who Put the Bomp, No.14, Fall 1975 - Page 12 - 13 "The Tony Hilder Story"
 * Surfin' Guitars: Instrumental Surf Bands of the Sixties - Surfin' Pages 50, 52, 149, 150, 151, 210, 212, 213, 215, 227, 228, 259, 260, 261, 298, 299
 * Tony Hilder's work on Impact and other labels by Eddie Ugata of the El Caminos (Japanese surf band)
 * Archive - Some surf albums by Hilder And there's mentions in other surf books etc Karl Twist (talk) 11:18, 9 February 2019 (UTC)