Wikipedia talk:Articles for deletion/Banshee PHP

I can't give sources for this page yet, because the Banshee project is quite new. So, people have to discover the project. People won't discover the project, unless I tell them about its existence.

I find it a little weird that Wikipedia requires information sources for the documents. It thought the readers of Wikpedia are there to verify its content. Otherwise, Wikipedia is nothing more than a collection of links to information sources instead of being the information source itself.

Can you tell me why a page like CakePHP is oke and mine is not? The CakePHP only has the projects website as sources. That's not really a reliable source, or is it?
 * CakePHP links to several books. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia. It is not for advertising, as you came here to use it for. It is not for original research, as you believe. Content should be verified from reliable sources. Ironholds (talk) 12:53, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

Those book-links don't make the CakePHP content any more true than the Banshee content. And the Banshee page isn't advertising the project any more than the CakePHP or any other software page is. Nevertheless, if you still want to delete the Banshee page, go ahead. I'll look for a more reliable way to tell the world the facts about the Banshee project.

P.S. I don't know what your idea of an encyclopedia is, but I've never seen a paper version which had a list of information sources, because a real encyclopedia is the information source itself. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.177.172.222 (talk) 13:17, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Most encyclopedias have a bibliography, or other sources where the information was procured from. Do you really think the writers of the encyclopedia britannica, say, went out and gathered the information themselves from primary documents? It's not a matter of truth, it's a matter of verifiability - being able to tell that the information is most likely accurate. And for that, we need third-party, reliable sources - something those books provide, and your article does not. My statement was that you are here for advertising, something you admit is true. Ironholds (talk) 13:58, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

If 'advertising' was my intention, I would have written something like "use this framework", "banshee is the best" or "this framework is better then other frameworks". Which I clearly didn't. I only written down some facts. I even used the CakePHP page as template! But this discussion can go on for a long time and I'm not going to waste my time on it. If you still want to delete it, go ahead. If not, I will continue to add more facts, because great things are planned for the next release of Banshee. The only thing I planned to do with the Banshee_PHP page is share information with the rest of the world, which in my believe is the only purpose of Wikipedia.

EOD —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.145.28.103 (talk) 17:55, 12 May 2010 (UTC)