Wikipedia talk:Articles for deletion/Boubaker polynomials (3rd nomination)

To Transmit to User Peridon, do you know why  there has been no response ???
First of all, Your intervention is never " an outsider sticking an oar in", Your neutrality, clearnes and impartiality are a good lesson for all.

Now you declared : So far there has been no response; I therefore conclude that references are not available, references are Really available. Here is the list:

(full lnks or more information, collected from the sciebce severs are available on web, but I can provide you.) You note that they are more than the requested 10 references and are all peer-reviewed journals!!

All the problem is that there are communication problems.

The content may be moved to

The list (involving more than 30 aythors from many countries with references, pages year ..) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hilberts (talk • contribs) 2009-02-15T16:38:26Z


 * Note that there has been no response to Peridon's second question: Can the Chebyshev and Dickson polynomials be used to solve the same problems that the Boubaker polynomials were used to solve? JackSchmidt (talk) 19:02, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

Reference list
(moved from Hilberts's above comment)

Published
1.	" ENHANCEMENT OF PYROLYSIS SPRAY PERFORMANCE USING THERMAL TIME-RESPONSE TO  PRECURSOR UNIFORM DEPOSITION ", European Physical Journal-Applied  Physics, EPJAP , Vol. 37  pp.105-109 (2007). BOUBAKER K. (1) ; CHAOUACHI A. (1) ; AMLOUK M. (2) ; BOUZOUITA H. (1)

2.	" A CONTINUOUS SOLUTION TO HEAT EQUATION USING COMBINED DIRICHLET-NEWMAN BOUNDARY CONDITIONS - CASE OF SPRAY PYROLYSIS TECHNIQUE DEPOSITED NON-UNIFORM LAYER ", Journal of Energy heat and Mass transfer, Vol. 29(1) pp. 13-25 (2007). Boubaker, K. Chaouachi, A.

3.	" A STURM-LIOUVILLE SHAPED CHARACTERISTIC DIFFERENTIAL EQUATION AS A GUIDE TO ESTAB-LISH A QUASI-POLYNOMIAL EXPRESSION TO THE BOUBAKER POLYNOMIALS ", Journal of Differential Equations and Control Processes. Vol. 2, pp. 117-133 (2007) ISSN 1817-2172. Hedi LABIADH ALMAS, Karem BOUBAKER. 

4.	" ON MODIFIED BOUBAKER POLYNOMIALS: SOME DIFFERENTIAL AND ANALYTICAL PROPERTIES OF THE NEW POLYNOMIALS ISSUED FROM AN ATTEMPT FOR SOLVING BI-VARIED HEAT EQUATION ", Journal of Trends in Applied Science Research, Vol. 2(6) pp. 540-544 (2007). Karem BOUBAKER

5.	" THE BOUBAKER POLYNOMIALS, A NEW FUNCTION CLASS FOR  SOLVING  BI-VARIED SECOND ORDER DIFFERENTIAL EQUATIONS ", F. E. Journal of Applied Mathematics, Vol.31(3) pp. 299 - 320  (2008). Karem Boubaker

6. 	" ESTABLISHMENT OF AN ORDINARY GENERATING FUNCTION AND A CHRISTOFFEL-DARBOUX TYPE FIRST-ORDER DIFFERENTIAL EQUATION FOR THE HEAT EQUATION RELATED BOUBAKER-TURKI POLYNOMIALS ", Journal of Differential Equations and C.P. Vol. 1 pp. 51-66 (2008). H. Labiadh, M. Dada, O. B. Awojoyogbe, K. B. (= Karem Boubaker) Ben Mahmoud, A. Bannour

7.	“ A SOLUTION TO BLOCH NMR FLOW EQUATIONS FOR THE ANALYSIS OF HOMODYNAMIC FUNCTIONS OF BLOOD FLOW SYSTEM USING M-BOUBAKER POLYNOMIALS ", International Journal of Current Applied Physics, Vol. 9 (1), pp. 278-283  (2009). O. Bamidele Awojoyogbe and Karem Boubaker

8.	" HEAT TRANSFER SRAY MODEL: AN IMPROVED THERMAL – TIME RESPONSE TO UNIFORM LAYER DEPOSIT USING BESSEL AND BOUBAKER POLYNOMIALS ", International Journal of Current Applied Physics, Volume 9, Issue 3, May 2009, Pages 622-624 M. Dada, O.B. Awojoyogbe and K. Boubaker

9.	" AN ATTEMPT TO SOLVE THE HEAT TRANSFER EQUATION IN A MODEL OF PYROLYSIS SPRAY USING 4q-ORDER  m-BOUBAKER POLYNOMIALS  ", Int. Journal of Heat and Technology, Vol.26(1) pp. 49-53 (2008). J. Ghanouchi, H. Labiadh and K. Boubaker


 * No link for #9

11.	" INVESTIGATION OF THERMAL DIFFUSIVITY-MICROHARDNESS CORRELATION  EXTENDED  TO  SURFACE-NITRURED  STEEL USING  BOUBAKER  POLYNOMIALS  EXPANSION ", Modern Physics Letters B, Volume:  22, Issue: 29 (2008) pp. 2893 – 2907, Ghrib, Taher; Boubaker, Karem; Bouhafs, Mahmoud

12.	" A BOUBAKER-TURKI POLYNOMIALS SOLUTION TO PANCREATIC ISLET BLOOD FLOW BIOPHYSICAL EQUATIONS IN THE CASE OF A PRESET MONITORED SPATIAL ROTATING FIELD", Research & Reviews in BioSciences ٍVolume 2, (1)pp. 78-81 (2008). Karem B.Ben Mahmoud

13.	" ESTABLISHMENT OF A GENERATING FUNCTION AND A CHEBYSHEV DEPENDENT INHOMOGENEOUS SECOND ORDER DIFFERENTIAL EQUATION FOR THE HEAT EQUATION RELATED m-BOUBAKER POLYNOMIALS ", International Journal of Applications and Applied Mathematics (AAM), Vol. 3, No. 2 (December 2008) pp. 329 – 336; Micahel Dada, O. Bamidele Awojoyogbe, Karim B. Ben Mahmoud

14.	" A NEW POLYNOMIAL SEQUENCE AS A GUIDE TO NUMERICAL SOLUTIONS FOR APPLIED-PHYSICS-RELATED PARTIAL DIFFERENTIAL EQUATIONS UNDER DIRICHLET-NEWMAN-TYPE EXOGENOUS BOUNDARY CONDITIONS ", Numerical Methods for Partial Differential Equations NMPDE,, Accepted: 2 April , Published Online: 10 Jul, 008 (2008). Karem B. Ben Mahmoud

15.	" A NEW ANALYTIC EXPRESSION AS A GUIDE TO ESTABLISH A CHARACTERISTIC DIFFERENTIAL EQUATION TO THE HEAT EQUATION-RELATED BOUBAKER POLYNOMIALS ", International Journal of Applied Mathematics, Vol.21 No. 2 pp. 171-177 (2008).


 * No link, and the volume number and year don't match the volume numbering from the listing for the IAENG Int. J. Appl. Math.. It seems very likely to be the IJAM described in this link : note especially the statement that "The journal’s policy is based on fast publication process", which I interpret as code for avoiding strict peer-review. But the journal's web site doesn't list its content, and the MathSciNet and Zbl indexes for it only go up through Vol.21 No.1. —David Eppstein (talk) 20:31, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

16.	" A BOUBAKER POLYNOMIALS SOLUTION TO HEAT EQUATION FOR MONITORING A3 POINT EVOLUTION DURING RESISTANCE SPOT WELDING ", International Journal of Heat and Technology, 26(2) (2008) pp. 141-146. S. Slama, M. Bouhafs and K. B. (=Karem Boubaker) Ben Mahmoud, last "reference paper"

17.	"A DYNAMICAL MODEL FOR INVESTIGATION OF A3 POINT MAXIMAL SPATIAL EVOLUTION DURING RESISTANCE SPOT WELDING USING BOUBAKER POLYNOMIALS", European Physical Journal-Applied Physic, EPJAP , Vol. 44, 317-322 (2008) S. Slama, J. Bessrour, K. Boubaker and M. Bouhafs

18.	" NEW TERNARY COMPOUNDS STOECHIOMETRY-LINKED THERMAL BEHAVIOUR OPTIMISATION USING BOUBAKER POLYNOMIALS ", Journal of Alloys and Compounds, Accepted: 18 September (2008); S. Lazzeza and K.B.(=Karem Boubaker) Ben Mahmoud

19.	" STUDY OF TEMPERATURE 3D PROFILE DURING WELD HEATING PHASE USING BOUBAKER POLYNOMIALS EXPANSION ", Thermochimica acta, Volume 482, Issues 1-2, (15 January 2009) 8-11, Salma Slamaa, Karem Boubaker

20.	"MORPHOLOGICAL AND THERMAL PROPERTIES OF -SnS2 SPRAYED FILMS USING BOUBAKER POLYNOMIALS EXPANSION", Journal of Alloys and Compounds, Accepted: 2 October (2008). C. Khéliaa, K. Boubaker, T. Ben Nasrallaha, M. Amlouka and S. Belgacema

22.	"LIMIT AND UNIQUENESS OF THE BOUBAKER-ZHAO POLYNOMIALS SINGLE IMAGINARY ROOT SEQUENCE", International Journal of Mathematics and Computation Vol. 1, No. N08, (2008) 13–16, T. G. Zhao, Y. X. Wang and K. B. (=Karem Boubaker) Ben Mahmoud

23.	" ESTABLISHMENT OF A GENERATING FUNCTION AND A CHEBYSHEV-LIKE DIFFERENTIAL EQUATION FOR THE HEAT EQUATION RELATED M-BOUBAKER POLYNOMIALS ", Bulletin of Pure and Applied Mathematics Accepted: 28 July  (2008) To appear in Vol. 3, No.1, June 2009. Labiadh, H.; Dada, M.; Awojoyogbe, O. B.; Ben Mahmoud, K. B. (=Karem Boubaker); Bannour, A.

27. 	" SOME NEW PROPERTIES OF THE APPLIED-PHYSICS RELATED BOUBAKER POLYNOMIALS, Journal of Differential Equations and C.P. Volume 1 (2009)  pp.7-19. Tinggang Zhao, B. K. (=Boubaker Karem) Ben Mahmoud & al

Accepted
10.	" ESTABLISHMENT OF A HOMOGENEOUS CHARACTERISTIC DIFFERENTIAL EQUATION FOR THE APPLIED PHYSICS CANONICAL FORMULATIONS-RELATED BOUBAKER POLYNOMIALS ", Journal of Analysis and Computation, Accepted, Vol. 4(2)  In Press (2008). ISSN 0973-2861

24.	" THE OPTOTHERMAL EXPANSIVITY: A BOUBAKER POLYNOMIALS EXPANSION-RELATED PAPRAMETER FOR OTIMIZING PV-T HYBRID SOLAR CELLS FUNCTIONAL MATERIALS", Functional Materials Letter Accepted: 30 October (2008).

25.	" EXPERIMENTAL AND THEORETICAL COOLING VELOCITY PROFILE INSIDE LASER WELDED METALS USING KEYHOLE APPROXIMATION AND BOUBAKER POLYNOMIALS EXPANSION ", Journal of Thermal Analysis and Calorimetry, Accepted Jan. 2009, Ref: No. JTAC-D-08-00021R1

26.	" A SOLUTION THE HEAT TRANSFER EQUATION INSIDE HYDROGEN CRYOGENIC VESSELS USING BOUBAKER-ZHAO POLYNOMIALS ", Cryogenics, Paper N° CRYOGENICS-D-08-00142, Accepted (2008), B. Karem Ben Mahmoud.

28. 	" THE 3D AMLOUK-BOUBAKER EXPANSIVITY-ENERGY GAP-VICKERS HARDNESS  ABACUS: A NEW TOOL FOR OTIMIZING  SEMICONDUCTOR  THIN FILM MATERIALS", Materials Letters  Accepted: Jan 21 (2009)., K.B. (=Karem Boubaker) Ben Mahmoud, M. Amlouk

34.   " ON THE EARLIEST DEFINITION OF THE BOUBAKER POLYNOMIALS IN THE PAPER: ENHANCEMENT OF PYROLYSIS SPRAY DISPOSAL PERFORMANCE USING THERMAL TIME-RESPONSE TO PRECURSOR UNIFORM DEPOSITION (COMMENT)", European Physical Journal-Applied  Physic, EPJAP , Accepted: Jan 19(2009). O.D. Oyodum, O.B. Awojoyogbe, M. Dada, K. B. (=Karem Boubaker) Ben Mahmoud, J. Magnuson

Not articles
29.   Roger L. Bagula and Gary Adamson, Triangle of coefficients of Recursive Polynomials for Boubaker polynomials, OEIS (Encyclopedia of Integer Sequences

30.   Roger L. Bagula, Triangle of coefficients of Boubaker recursive polynomials with even powers transformed as x->Sqrt[y]

36. Neil J. A. Sloane and R. J. Mathar, Irregular triangle read by rows of coefficients of Boubaker polynomial B_n(x) in order of decreasing exponents

31.   Roger L. Bagula, Differentiation of:A135929 Triangle read by rows: row n gives coefficients of Differential Boubaker polynomial P(x,n) in order of decreasing exponents,

32.   A. Bannour, Triangle read by rows: row n gives coefficients of the modified Boubaker polynomial mB_n(X) in order of decreasing exponents, OEIS (Encyclopedia of Integer Sequences),

33.   Roger L. Bagula, Integral form of A135929 :Triangle read by rows: row n gives coefficients of Integral form of Boubaker polynomial B_n(x) in order of decreasing exponents

35. Karem Boubaker, Triangle read by rows of coefficients of Boubaker polynomial B_n(x) in order of decreasing exponents Hilberts (talk) 16:38, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

Comments

 * +authors that Hilberts "forgot" (and links to the paper or their abstract) Rhadamante (talk) 18:47, 15 February 2009 (UTC)


 * I organized the bibliography a little more. JackSchmidt (talk) 19:00, 15 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Number 28 may have nothing to do with Boubaker polynomials. JackSchmidt (talk) 19:03, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Number 25 failed verification for now, but one should give it a few more weeks. Springer's Online First lists all accepted papers, and does not list paper number 25, but there could be a short backlog. JackSchmidt (talk) 19:12, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Number 23 does not appear to be a scholarly journal by a reputable publisher. The typesetting is embarrassing. JackSchmidt (talk) 19:31, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Number 15 fails verification according to David Eppstein above. JackSchmidt (talk) 19:33, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Most of the other accepted ones with DOIs seem basically fine. These fail the notability guidelines for *academics* (as in, they do not give evidence that K. Boubaker is notable), but they seem fine for mathematical concepts. They lend weight to the idea that Boubaker polynomials just recently received enough significant coverage in independent (independently *edited* and published) reliable sources. JackSchmidt (talk) 02:59, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Message to JackSmith
Mr JackSmith, You see:

The page was there in WP.en for months, and many people worked on.... until a FRENCH:WP Administratot, known by his ... came to impose frwiki criteria!!!!!???

Finally,

these peer-reviewed journals reviewers and publishers from Asia, Europe, America and Africa are a sign of Non-Notability????

And you are agreeing with this MASSIVE and ASTONISHING  effort  made to DEMONSTRATE that Planetmath and OEIS are not NOTABILITY-relevant, OPOSITELY to what is mentioned in WP itself :


 * ==Notability of sequences of numbers (from ) page section incahnged since 2005==


 * Examples.


 * 1) Have professional mathematicians published papers about this sequence, or chapters in a book, or an entire book about this sequence?
 * 2) Do MathWorld and PlanetMath have articles about this sequence?
 * 3) Is this sequence listed in the Online Encyclopedia of Integer Sequences (OEIS)?
 * 4) Is there at least one commonly accepted name for this sequence?

Mr JackSmith You said once ''' the inclusion criteria on frwiki and enwiki are different, and frwiki need not follow our decision at all (from my brief observations, frwiki consensus is clear to delete). JackSchmidt (talk) 22:02, 12 February 2009 (UTC)'''

We inform you that the frwiki consensus is Never insert beacuse of the Nationality of the author (as for manys singers and politicians, see AFDs in FR:WP) ; will it be so here in WP? That depends on you

Bye Hilberts (talk) 23:34, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

Wawww! Boubaker polynomials are making people come back to maths, love maths and discuss maths !!!!!
See this Wonderful comments from User Peridon : Well. at least we're getting the picture a bit clearer - for me at least. '''Never knew Maths could get so exciting. It's getting like music and religion, isn't it'''? !!!!!!

Long-life to these Polynomials!!! Hilberts (talk) 23:43, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

To transmit to the AFD Page “Closing” Administrator
The real problem is that the AFD claimer is a FRENCH:Administrator charged by Clem23, (see the last AFD and attempts to impose laws to EN:WP)  known by his personal NOTABILITY RULES that take into account the NATIONALITY, the COUOUR and The RACE, (see Historics).

Fortunately En: WP has Notability Rules ( Where Online Encyclopedia of Integer Sequences (OEIS) and PlanetMath are cited as source of notability)

From the debate one can see:

++ None contested the Polynomials were considered by and involving more than 30 authors from Asia, Africa ,America and Europe, published by more than 30 high-rank Editors and 25 peer-reviewed Journals.

++ None contested the Polynomials have in total more than 120 hits in Scientific sites

++ None contested the Polynomials are cited in Planetmath (3 times ) 14 hits in the Online Encyclopedia of Integer Sequences (OEIS)

++ Amazingly, a big effort was made to DEMONSTRATE that Planetmath and OEIS are not NOTABILITY-relevant, OPOSITELY to what is mentioned in WP itself !!!!!!

Now a known group of French:WPUsers and administrators (French_Tourist, clem32, DarkoNeko… and acolytes)  was intervening  with  a massive stereotyped formula: Delete non notable , co-authored papers  and so ..(Note that Because in such cases  FR:WP it is a MAJORITY  vote.)

There were also some amazing votes :” Speedy Delete,--- Wikipedia is not the place for shuch marginal and low levelled persons' …

Let's see EN:WP will resist or not !!Hilberts (talk) 23:03, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

Good luck.!

Rules or no Rules that is the question!!!
The English NOTABILITY CRETERIA as edited and confirmed by Users: Michael Hardy, Elehack, Robinh , Mazca , Troogleplex , Reyk ,VolkovBot, Jkasd and Asenine (and which the FrencWiki administrator FRENCH_TOURIST tried to mask with reason :" an edit by to a precised Arab-country-issued IP range !!??


 * == Notability of Mathematical items ==

Examples Polynomials, Mathematical identities etc.

The questions to ask (for NOTABILITY) are:

1.	Have they been the main subject of (at least two) published papers, or chapters in a book, or an entire book about this sequence?

2.	Are they cited in MathWorld or PlanetMath ?

3.	Are they cited in in the Online Encyclopedia of Integer Sequences (OEIS)?

4.	Do they have a demonstrated (and/or) published expression?

An affirmative answer to one of these questions indicates that the polynomials or mathematical identities are notable for Wikipedia to have an article about it.

See carefully : an ansewr to ONE of these questions ...

No other mention on NATIONALITIES, COULORS or being accpetd at FR:WP or any other condition ...

''' So???? ''' Hilberts (talk) 00:22, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure why my name is referenced here, just because I edited that page doesn't necessarily mean I approve of the notability criteria. I haven't had enough time to look at this to make an informed opinion, but I don't want my name being thrown around as if I specifically endorsed something.  J kasd  07:31, 19 March 2009 (UTC)