Wikipedia talk:Articles for deletion/Charles Buell Anderson

Analysis of 22 (two dozen) "newspaper articles"
Most of these are "Letters to the Editor" from readers.


 * "Suicides spark fears of Byron church cult" Courier Mail/May 19, 2001 --By Wayne Smith
 * Listing of Courier Mail article June 2002.
 * No listing of Courier Mail article in May 2001.
 * Doesn't verify.
 * Even if it did verify, it speaks only about Eugene Shearn and it doesn't say anything about Anderson.
 * No biographical data here. Ste4k 07:52, 4 July 2006 (UTC)


 * "Interview with Ian Hamilton The Spirit of Things" ABC National Radio Australia /March 3, 2001 --By Executive Producer Rachael Kohn, Producer Geoff Wood
 * Ian Hamilton in this interview speaks about himself and his wife and experiences they had while members of the Endeavor group. There is absolutely no biographical data about Anderson in this interview. His name isn't even mentioned. Ste4k 00:29, 4 July 2006 (UTC)


 * "Cult Exposed - Editorial Opinion" Northern Star--Byron Bay, Australia/March 28, 2000 --By Dean Gould, Editor
 * Speaks about "Master Hector" and Ian Hamilton, but nothing about Anderson, nor any biographical data. Ste4k 00:31, 4 July 2006 (UTC)


 * "Cult Exposed" Northern Star--Byron Bay, Australia/March 28, 2000 --By Hannah Ross
 * More about "Master Hector" and nothing biographical nor even a mention of Anderson. Ste4k 00:33, 4 July 2006 (UTC)


 * "Some general myths about the Endeavor Academy" Holy Smoke, Newsletter August 2000
 * More about "Hector" and nil about "Anderson" Ste4k 00:35, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Not a reputible secondary source based on the description of the newsletter


 * "''"Holy Smoke" Volume Number 14--June 2000
 * Data About Anderson: he started the academy. They call him "Dear one". He posits a claim about his teaching. He has been engaged in litagation about the book (He was sued by Penguin). Hearsay about his feelings, and his philosophy. Absoutely no biographical information about Anderson. Ste4k 00:41, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
 * It says on the page itself: Note: "Holy Smoke" is a newsletter about the activities of the Endeavor Academy (EA) and its teachers/leaders, Charles Buell Anderson and Theodore Hector Poppe"
 * Not a reputible secondary source.


 * "Released from the weight of seeking perfection" Byron Shire Echo, May 16, 2000 --by David Forsyth
 * Views expressed by ex-member of the Academy. No biographical data on Anderson whatsoever. Ste4k 00:43, 4 July 2006 (UTC)


 * "That tiny thing called hope..." Byron Shire Echo, April 25, 2000 --by Adam Blanch
 * Speaks about spiritual addiction, and absolutely nothing about Anderson. Ste4k 00:49, 4 July 2006 (UTC)


 * "Long live free speech " Byron Shire Echo, April 18, 2000 --by Brando Tobin
 * Talks in support of media activism. Ste4k 00:53, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
 * This source doesn't even mention Endeavor or it's founder.
 * Not a reputible secondary source.


 * "Byron miracles not connected" Byron Echo --Byron Bay, Australia, April 11, 2000 --By James Ward
 * This source also doesn't mention Endeavor or it's founder, at best it implies.
 * Mentioned once in passing by nickname, no data whatsoever is supplied about Anderson. Ste4k 00:56, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Not a reputible secondary source.


 * "Miracles group stays put" The Byron Shire Echo on Tuesday, April 11, 2000 --By Val Scott
 * Discusses eviction/landlord problems with a local church.
 * Never mentions Anderson, nor is any biographical data about Anderson present. Ste4k 01:01, 4 July 2006 (UTC)


 * "Course in Miracles is not a Christian teaching" Byron Shire Echo, April 11, 2000 --by Rev Chris Lockley (Brunswick Heads and Mullumbimby Uniting Churches)
 * Author that admits having no personal knowledge about the group raises philosophical questions.
 * Absolutely no mention of Anderson, nor any biographical data about Anderson. Ste4k 01:04, 4 July 2006 (UTC)


 * "It takes a miracle to get out" Byron Shire Echo, March 28, 2000 --by Ian Blair Hamilton
 * This source doesn't even mention Endeavor or it's founder, instead is praising the Echo.
 * No biographical data on Anderson whatsoever. Ste4k 01:06, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Not a reputible secondary source. Considered a primary source if anything.


 * "There is a limit" Byron Bay Echo, Australia, March 2000 --By Sona Evans and Mirabai McKellar (both age 15)
 * We can count this as two peoples' opinions, but neither are professional staff.
 * They discuss vaguely that they were abused at the academy.
 * Absolutely nothing biographical in this letter about Anderson. Ste4k 01:17, 4 July 2006 (UTC)


 * "A cult, is a cult, is a cult" Byron Echo--Byron Bay, Australia, April 11, 2000 --By Adam Blanch
 * More derision at Hector.
 * Nothing in this article is about Anderson whatsoever. Ste4k 01:19, 4 July 2006 (UTC)


 * "Just another institution" Byron Echo--Byron Bay, Australia, April 11, 2000 --By Campbell McKellar
 * More derision at Hector.
 * Tongue in cheek gratitude indirectly toward Anderson.
 * Nothing in this article has any biographical data about Anderson at all. Ste4k 01:22, 4 July 2006 (UTC)


 * "Ex-Leader Warns It's No Miracle" Northern Star, March 28 2000 --By Hannah Ross
 * Mor about Hector, nothing about Anderson.
 * No biographical information whatsoever. Ste4k 01:24, 4 July 2006 (UTC)


 * "Editorial Opinion: Ex-Leader Warns It's No Miracle" Northern Star, March 28 2000 --By Dean Gould, Editor
 * More about Hector and the local area Byron community.
 * Absolutely nothing about Anderson is mentioned, and especially not any biographical data. Ste4k 01:31, 4 July 2006 (UTC)


 * "Leaving Endeavor Academy / Couple Gave Endeavor Academy $20,000 But They Say The Group Intentionally Split Them Some Say Master Teacher Could Be A Danger" CBS 48 Hours, December 9, 1999


 * "The Academy: Miracle Or Cult? /A New Age Doctrine Guides Initiates' Lives The Master Teacher Makes All Decisions Followers Say They Are Very Happy" CBS 48 Hours, December 9, 1999


 * "Freedom Now / 1995 Excerpted" --By Val Scott
 * Lot's of mish mash about Anderson and differing philosphies.
 * No biographical data about Anderson whatsoever. Ste4k 01:31, 4 July 2006 (UTC)


 * "My Experience at "God's Country Place" a.k.a. The Endeavor Academy" 1991 --By Kalie Picone
 * This one has some data, but who knows who this person is? It claims indirectly that Anderson is a retired real estate broker from Chicago and an alcoholic. Biographic, yes. reputible source? No, all hearsay. Ste4k 01:35, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

The Byron Bay Echo says of itself: "Free community newspaper founded in 1986 by local residents and remains independent."

The same group of sources cover insignificant events such as speeches by Deputy Chiefs of police at local media seminars: "As well Assistant Commissioner Peter Walsh, speakers will include Dean Gould (Editor, Northern Star), Alan Rawson (ABC Regional News Editor), David Lovejoy (Byron Shire Echo), Ralph James (James Fuggle Solicitors), and David Reilly (Northern Rivers Health Service)."

So there is actually only one reputible & verifiable source in this entire list of 22 cites. But as discussed, the words are found in transcript form, but not available from the actual cited source. As we all now, per WP:RS anyone can put up a web site and modify the contents.

I'll be trying to find an actual transcript of that one. If it's available over the web, it would be helpful. Ste4k 11:42, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

There is absolutely no biographical data we can use from this entire web site. The only two sources that might be useful, can be found somewhere else in an unadulterated manner direct from the source. Ste4k 01:38, 4 July 2006 (UTC)