Wikipedia talk:Articles for deletion/Chinazi (2nd nomination)

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i think this page should absolutely be kept to show the world how horrifying chinazi is — Preceding unsigned comment added by 175.159.206.169 (talk) 02:40, September 24, 2019 (UTC)

Keep: This article shall not be deleted.

The fact that many protestors took their life to remind the world that nothing has changed in the fight for freedom in Xinjiang, Ttibet and Hong Kong. China’s tyranny as same as Nazi right now.

Therefore it shall be published on Wikipedia as a warning to the world. Ppllpearl (talk) 04:36, 24 September 2019 (UTC)

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Keep - As long as this word is popular in the media, there should be a page dedicated to it explaining its origin. It's not about political stance. The page might simply say that it's a word used by protesters to attack China government. It needs not necessarily verify if the claim is true - be it true or not. What's important here is that we must protect information and serve as the most up-to-date cyclopedia of the internet instead of censoring ourselves. As there's a word out there, there should be a page here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lamyipming (talk • contribs) 02:59, 24 September 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 24 September 2019

 * Keep. Chinazi comes fourth when searching 'china' in google which shows the increase public attention and acknowledgment of this new term. It also represents the heightened awareness of the alarming totalitarianism used by the ROC that might be comparable to the Nazi's and has great political and academic values. The term is widely used in and spread among different social medias such as Twitter, Reddit, Youtube, Instagram and LIHKG which is a Reddit-like platform in Hong Kong where Water Revolution is taking place. Wisedomwise (talk) 10:53, 24 September 2019 (UTC) Widsomwise (talk) 03:15, 24 September 2019 (UTC)

China acts as Nazi so we should keep Chinazi. 張東尼2017 (talk) 04:04, 24 September 2019 (UTC)

Keep: This is important reminder to those who know what Nazi has done to well-being of mankind
Look at what China has done to their peoples starting from cultural revolution, June 4th, 1989 massacre, everyday capture of dissident in large scale. Look at how they treat the people in China who have just tried to make an appeal to Beijing for all the corruption and maltreatment from local admin to them. Take another look at what has been happening in Xinjiang, and go beyond China to what they are doing to the well-being of mankind outside China - the military expansion using the name "one belt one road", stealing technology from US and Europe for use in facial recognition, webcam monitoring, social credit system and the riot suppression in Hong Kong now. The people get killed, "suicide", detained, "disappear", breaking bones, blasting eyes and etc. are enormous. The only difference is the English speaking world has never taken any real action against the latter due to economic interests. It is critical to keep this term to remind the English speaking world the real threat from Chinazi. Carrielamiou (talk) 03:31, 24 September 2019 (UTC)

Based on the recently protest in Hong Kong, china has show they are similar as nazi. No human right, no democracy, police states, white terror, dehumanization. Those action has show how evil they are Freehk19898964 (talk) 04:03, 24 September 2019 (UTC)

Based on the recently protest in Hong Kong, china has show they are similar as nazi. No human right, no democracy, police states, white terror, dehumanization. Those action has show how evil they are Freehk19898964 (talk) 04:03, 24 September 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 24 September 2019
Keep - freedom of speech. This word is rising in popularity. Wikipedia should not obstruct any development of a new word. Jja!cckkyy (talk) 03:44, 24 September 2019 (UTC)

Freedom of speech: the facts and trends of China’s iron-fist regime
This article shall not be deleted.

The fact that the influence of China and the form of white Terror they have been cultivating shall be published on Wikipedia as a warning to the world.

Chinazi is a real existing and growing problem that might jeopardise the world. This negative and horrifying impact is depriving the human rights, freedom of speech and global stability. Kayakyak1001 (talk) 03:51, 24 September 2019 (UTC)

Deletion of Chinazi is the same as remaining silence to totalitarianism
It is like Martin Niemöller's confusion about his support to Adolf Hitler's rise to power - first they came for the Chinese and I did not speak out— Because I am not Chinese. Then they came for the Xinjiang and Hong Kong, and I did not speak out— Because I am them. Then they came for the rest of the world and I did not speak out— Because the place I live is safe and we make a lot money from there. Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me. Deletion of Chinazi is the same as keeping silence to totalitarianism. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.152.204.22 (talk) 03:57, 24 September 2019 (UTC)

Keep: The term Chinazi could help to understand the political rationale of the CCP in legitimizing its authority and also to open a new discourse for academic purpose
The term Chinazi has been frequently quoted in the recent uprising in Hong Kong by various political activists, lawmakers and mass media since June of this year. It is important to keep the discussion on this term as it could help to understand the rationale behind the rule of the Chinese political philosophy which aims to consolidate its legitimacy in different claimed-territories of China including Tibet, Xin Jiang and in this case, Hong Kong. The discussion can also help to find the similarities between the German Nazi rule during the Second World War and the Chinese Communist Party at modern age for academic discourse purpose. The term Chinazi does not only refer to the actual practice of Nazism, but also the grand strategy in the CCP policy-making process. To conclude, the discussion on Chinazi is not simply a form of hate-speech or criticism to the Communist regime, but a deeper sense of an understanding to the Communist Party's political philosophy and its vulnerability in maintaining its legitimacy 42.200.238.99 (talk) 04:18, 24 September 2019 (UTC)

The term Chinazi has been frequently quoted in the recent uprising in Hong Kong by various political activists, lawmakers and mass media since June of this year. It is important to keep the discussion on this term as it could help to understand the rationale behind the rule of the Chinese political philosophy which aims to consolidate its legitimacy in different claimed-territories of China including Tibet, Xin Jiang and in this case, Hong Kong. Akinaaas (talk) 05:33, 24 September 2019 (UTC)

Chinazi is a fact
Those Chinese who is trying to delete this page do ashamed on their own country's brutality and suppression? Swordcloud1016 (talk) 04:48, 24 September 2019 (UTC)

The actions of PRC have no difference from Nazi Germany Darrenccl (talk) 16:06, 24 September 2019 (UTC)

The actions of PRC have no difference from Nazi Germany Darrenccl (talk) 16:06, 24 September 2019 (UTC)

KEEP: Chinazi is used in many youtube videos
Videos are be found by simple search in youtube. That gives a more up-to-date information about what China regime has done. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wwrrkk (talk • contribs) 05:03, 24 September 2019 (UTC)

Chinazis
Chinazis should be added as they are literally building concentration camps for the ethnic minorities and suppressing the democracy movement of Hong Kong. Ilovebeefburgers (talk) 05:47, 24 September 2019 (UTC)

Keep - Chinazi is term to reveal the totalitarian face of communist China
Now most of the western countries kneel down to China for economic interest they have from them. Most of the world leaders turn a blind eye to what China did to peoples in and outside China. People from the rest of the world, especially the young generation needs to know what Chinazi means in order to understand totalitarian China is a clear and present danger. Christangifu (talk) 06:12, 24 September 2019 (UTC)

Chinazi
See what China did in Xinjiang and what China is doing in Hong Kong. It is chinazi. Qqaszzz (talk) 06:31, 24 September 2019 (UTC)

CHINAZI
It's a fact! Dmsherbal (talk) 07:20, 24 September 2019 (UTC)

Chinazi could be found on Facebook, Twitter, Reddit, Youtube, Instagram and LIHKG. Hongkonger01 (talk) 18:39, 24 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep. Google or just ask any Pro-Hongkong People or Hongkonger.

CHINAZI
I think the topic should not be deleted due to political pressure. The term Chinazi is definitely significant in the globe, it is a current trend that we can see discussion on the issue on Twitter, Youtube and Facebook. And the term Chinazi is supported by evidence. Not just related to Hong Kong problem, but also the situation in Xinjiang, where The CCP try to destroy an ethic in that place. Thenaime1 (talk) 21:11, 24 September 2019 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thenamie1 (talk • contribs)

China is like nazi
China+nazi is Chinazi The word describes China Communist Party's cruel rule (similar to Nazi Party) over Xinjiang, Tibet and Hong Kong. Why our say “ China is like nazi”

1. Dehumanization Nazi-nazi say Jews = rats, so they kill Jews. China-now, China people , HKpolice say HK people = cockroaches. They think eliminating cockroaches is a necessity to preserve health and cleanliness which advocates police brutality.

2.Concentration Camp Nazi-"Undesirables" such as Jews, Romanis, disabled people, homosexuals were held in concentration camps during 1933-1945. Prisoners were being re- educated, forced labor and killed. China-now, Uyghurs, Tibetans, Muslims and Christians were held in re-education camps and internment camps in Xinjiang and Tibet. Prisoners were being re-educated, forced labor, forced abortion, sterilisation and killed.

3. Use of Chemical Weapons Nazi-Nazi Party's military experiment during WWII, they studying the effects of mustard gas on human skin. A test subject's arm was exposed to trace amount of the toxin. The effects were startling. China-Hong Kong Police fired 3000+ of tear gas in residential area, causing chemical burn on citizen's body. They even used expired tear gas which may led to corneal injury, respiratory distress, allergic reactions and DEATH.

4.Oppression of Churches China and Nazi - Churches were either closed or destroyed and most Christians were brutally arrested.

5.Controlling Education Nazi-Teachers with undesirable race/political beliefs were dismissed while others are forced to join the NSLB. Both teachers and students were taught to advocate Nazi ideology and obey to the Nazi Party. China-CCP sees education as an important tool of ideological control. Teachers were forced to swear allegiance to CCP. Students were required to undergo "moral education" or "patriotic education" aimed at instilling "core socialist values" in China's youth.

so, are you know why CCP is Chinazi? Andytse532137 (talk) 13:14, 24 September 2019 (UTC)

To keep this article is to protect freedom of speech
The Term Chinazi comes to global attention in the mist of Hong Kong Anti Extradition Law amendment movement. The debate over this term reflects rising concern over China government's oppression against human rights to people nation-wide, Which is recently speading to international city Hong Kong, so this term is getting more common on social media. Start from June 2019, Beijing-HKSAR government's reactions against peaceful demonstrations, which subsequently turning into wide spreading and long lasting social unrest. In the feeling of strong threats from he government side, HongKongers consider Chinazi one of the word that decribe the oppression they are facing. There are also pro-Beijing or Police supporters who consider this word defames the government and the police force. Or some people may just think the current situation is not as bad as in WW2. Debates and conflict in view could be understood at the time of controversy, and this is the point of Wikipedia, it serves to maintain and keep knowledge, including what people have discussed. Building up an article is believed as a beginning of an issue conning to the public concern. And the wiki users should be free to debate over it. Now there are users taking actions to get this article removed, is there an academic reason? If they just disagree with it, it's free to discuss everywhere on the web (including those people are living in network-censored region like mainland China). But why demand to remove an article? Trying to avoid other users to discuss this matter? For users writing reports on Wiki to remove an article out of political preference, such actions shows signs of oppression. These report serves as living proof that "Chinazi" may actually exist.

For Wiki as a platform with freedom of speech, it is obvious that this article shall stay. The article may be not so complete now, and the term " Chinazi" may subject to much debate in the years to come, but all these will become tomorrow's knowledge.

As a Wiki reader, I support knowledge, and the freedom to seek it. SeralanK010 (talk) 13:29, 24 September 2019 (UTC)

Don’t delete it
The word ChiNazi is widely used nowsaday Lizholmes2019 (talk) 13:56, 24 September 2019 (UTC)

Keep this word!
Hope keep this word and don’t delete it. It is a important word and many people agree that it is essential to keep and record. Takheng1128 (talk) 15:58, 24 September 2019 (UTC)

Keep
The term ‘Chinazi’ may be biased for some people. But it can be described in a neutral way. Actually, there are some articles explaining those terms that can be controversial, e.g. ‘Shina’, ‘Jap’, ‘Gaoli bangzi’, ‘Guizi’, etc. These terms can be biased, or even contain racist meanings. So it is definitely not a problem to keep the term ‘Chinazi’ in Wikipedia just because it may not be a neutral word.

To improve this article, I think when this word create and spread out can be studied, with reliable sources supported. Also, as the word ‘Chinazi’ is a combine wording of ‘China’ and ‘Nazi’, the reason why this two words are putting together can be a point to elaborate. It can help the readers to get a deeper understanding of the term. Wikikiwipediaaaa (talk) 18:10, 24 September 2019 (UTC)

Keep
The term 'Chinazi' precisely describes how China put its evilest efforts toward the world to fight for 'more space for living' like previously, therefore it is a responsibility for all people around the world to recognise such action to fight against it for the freedom of the whole world. — Preceding unsigned comment added by LiffCN (talk • contribs) 09:50, 25 September 2019 (UTC)

Keep it
This is a meaningful word. Johnson Tsang (talk) 03:08, 25 September 2019 (UTC)

Just KEEP IT motherfucking Wiki
Those Chinese Fucks is trying to delete this FACT! Fucking HI (talk) 04:43, 25 September 2019 (UTC)

More confirmed sock
Seem late, but had used the main account and a sock  to participate in the Afd. See Sockpuppet investigations/Angelalive. Matthew hk (talk) 10:08, 1 November 2019 (UTC)