Wikipedia talk:Articles for deletion/DreamHost (2nd nomination)


 * Nominator has never edited on a subject other than Dreamhost, and most edits have included WP:UNDUE weight on negative information. --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 17:35, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Above "most edits" characterization, by a DreamHost Customer, was brought up and dealt with formally before. Disclosure: Ex-customer, Judas278 (talk) 18:05, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I'm a Dreamhost customer, and I'm a Microsoft customer too, and a Freemason, and I'm a fan of Tom Smith (filker), and I paid to go see a special sneak preview of Serenity (film) on 5/5/05, where I met Adam Baldwin. I'm not sure you can claim "dealt with formally" in that link above, as no admin action was taken on either side.--SarekOfVulcan (talk) 18:24, 23 June 2009 (UTC)


 * There's been an obvious push to exclude information in order to prepare this article for AfD, which I think is inappropriate wikigaming. -- Scjessey (talk) 18:32, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Note that the article has been protected for the past two months, so I'm not sure "preparing for AfD" is at all an accurate characterization.--SarekOfVulcan (talk) 18:44, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I am referring to the steady removal/exclusion of content that has taken place over many months, prior to the recent protection. -- Scjessey (talk) 18:52, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Anyone can check the article history and see what really happened, if they care to. Judas278 (talk) 05:02, 24 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Comment - Re time for improvement: The same editor has been "guiding" this article for years. The same argument was made in 2007. Every opportunity has been taken to make this article an advertisement instead of well-sourced. Judas278 (talk) 00:27, 24 June 2009 (UTC)


 * So you say, every time, but mere existence isn't notable, and there's no good sources for large or major. Dan T. is known to be a long-term customer, creator of the article, etc...  Judas278 (talk) 04:32, 24 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Especially since you folks haven't gotten a single independent editor to agree with you that the company isn't notable. Take a hint, people... --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 00:53, 26 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Comment Please stop the false pity pleas. Is it not enough you just got restricted elsewhere? For years this article has been shaped by one primary editor. S/he made it an advertisement.  S/he was warned not to Own the article again and again. Judas278 (talk) 22:37, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Please don't misrepresent that facts in this way. My goal has always been to improve the article, and the project in general. -- Scjessey (talk) 00:20, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

Refactoring
I tried to only pull complete comments out of the AfD, and only ones that didn't disrupt the flow of conversation. I know that left a couple of things in there I would rather have taken out, but I figured it was better to be conservative about it. --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 17:15, 28 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Would've been better to get an independent (impartial) editor to do this, or even better - not start the personal BS in the first place. Unsigned comments were left on the project page, as well similar BS comments. Judas278 (talk) 21:31, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
 * It would be better if you would not accuse people of "personal BS" and assume good faith. -- Scjessey (talk) 23:26, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Sure. As if you set the example. Judas278 (talk) 21:30, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
 * So, are you saying you want to lower yourself to his level? --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 21:34, 29 June 2009 (UTC)