Wikipedia talk:Articles for deletion/EL GGoDo/2004-08-27

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Votes for Deletion Delete. If this were not a nonentity, some information on exhibitions, collections, or something, would have been included. Vanity or joke, whatever. Wetman 09:43, 27 Aug 2004 (UTC) Delete. Not noteable -- Solipsist 10:36, 27 Aug 2004 (UTC) Abstain: There are a couple of works witnessed on the web, but very few. I simply cannot assess the notability. In general, Expressionism ended in the 1930's. I would not expect a 71 year old artist to be doing a ton of self promotion. We will have to be presumptive and delete, but I'm not ready to say so yet. Geogre 13:04, 27 Aug 2004 (UTC) Note: If this article is deleted, please delete the tons of redirects the original poster created to the article. RickK 19:30, Aug 27, 2004 (UTC)

Votes against Deletion How does one become recognised? I suppose we can ask ourselves the universal question who stands at the great gates of recognition to say that one artist/person is "recognised" and the other is "not"; at present you are the gate keepers to this exclusive club. Who is to say that "Albert Einstein" should be recognised and another great scientist/artist/musician etc of equal standing not are recognised.

As the main contributor to elggodo.net and the contributor of this short article (to save disk space) I believe this article should remain if you wish to reflect history, even if with a note to say:

"El GGoDo is not a world-wide celebrity, but a private man whom is well known in Leon Spain as a great artist (painter, sculptor and philosopher) as is recognised by inclusion in the cities Gothic Cathedral of his artwork, "Liberted" ,see these links for further information as further proof: (http://www.catedraldeleon.org/sub2/sub2.html, http://www.spainturismo.com/leon/)".

Taken, he is generally known as an expressionist but of course he has now created his own style which is based on expressionism. I have seen many great works of art and I believe at least a number of his works can sit comfortably along side the master works of great painters such as Picasso and Dali without any problem or hesitation.

As I have time and this is not my full time occupation, in addition I have a number of disabilities which affect my endurance I will add more and more information to elggodo.net and as the appropriate information comes to hand (please send me some if you have any) I will add it to the wikipedia section on El GGoDo. El GGoDo.net is definitely not for profit it is not even a company of any sort just a group of people trying to preserve the works of El GGoDo and to encourage research, investigation and perhaps publication of critical essays on his artwork theories.

Based on this I hope you will reconsider your verdict about the deletion of the small entry on El GGoDo whom is a true artist still alive living, breathing and painting artist. About the exhibition listing - I know for sure he has exhibited a few times in a big way, but in Spain the political situation made it and "makes it" difficult for him to exhibit often; if he was in Australia yes he could have a long list of exhibitions without doubt. Spain has a very colourful history as I am sure you are aware

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 * Why did you move all of this text here? RickK 06:50, Aug 28, 2004 (UTC)