Wikipedia talk:Articles for deletion/Feliks Zemdegs

I reverted the deletion tags tag on the Erik Akkersdijk page and on the Feliks Zemdegs page because of WP:SNOWBALL. Also, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/OdeonusIX makes me suspicious about a supposedly new editor who knows so much about article deletion. If the behavior pattern continues I will open up a sockpuppet investigation. Guy Macon 01:13, 2 February 2011 (UTC)


 * I've reopened the discussion. There needs to a discussion before WP:SNOWBALL can be invoked. This is not a clear cut case since WP:BIO is not obviously met. SmartSE (talk) 12:22, 2 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Oh and WP:BITE - many new users do know how WP works before editing. Please AGF unless there is compelling evidence. Thanks SmartSE (talk) 12:23, 2 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Sounds good to me. Advice/correction very much appreciated.


 * This raises a question in my mind about policy. I have no problem with being reverted; to my way of thinking, WP:SNOWBALL should be applied to cases where no sane person disagrees (a proposal to get rid of all images and make Wikipedia text-only, for example). One editor who thinks this is not a clear cut case is enough for me to not want to invoke WP:SNOWBALL.  That being said, it seems to me that there are cases where WP:SNOWBALL would call for removing deletion tags on sight, even if this is not one of those cases. Deleting the BLP of the pope as being non-notable, for example.  Such a proposal needs no discussion. As always, I am open to being corrected if I am getting it wrong here.

Getting back to the topic at hand, I am having a hard time understanding how the world champion at competitive speedcubing could possibly be considered to be not notable. Consider this list:

Competitive eating:

Patrick Bertoletti

Joey Chestnut

Crazy Legs Conti

Peter Dowdeswell

Tim Janus

Takeru Kobayashi

Rich LeFevre

Sonya Thomas

Arm Wrestling:

John Brzenk

Ion Oncescu

Scott Norton

Tsvetan Gashevski

Canoeing

Michal Martikán

Jordi Domenjo

Jan Benzien

Robin Bell

Bowling:

Rafael Nepomuceno

Lita dela Rosa

Hank Marino

Olivia "Bong" Coo

Jens Nickel

Tore Torgersen

Shalin Zulkifli

Bill Hoffman (bowling)

Walter Ray Williams, Jr.

Anne Bailey (ten-pin bowling)

Maxine Allen

Guy Caminsky

Darts:

Dennis Priestley

Phil Taylor

Raymond van Barneveld

Adrian Lewis

Leighton Rees

John Lowe

Eric Bristow

Keith Deller

Bob Anderson (darts player)

Does anyone consider all of the competitors above (many are not world champions) to be more notable than the world champion at competitive speedcubing? Guy Macon 01:39, 3 February 2011 (UTC) Feliks Zemdegs is not a world champion, he is a world record holder. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 149.170.102.6 (talk) 10:21, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

Feliks will be multiple world champion at october 2011. If that's the reason, please delete Magnus Carlsen also —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.101.134.214 (talk) 10:42, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

The total lack of anything other than "keep" on the Erik Akkersdijk deletion page and on the Feliks Zemdegs deletion page tends to support my contention that both nominations for deletion should have been reverted on sight because of WP:SNOWBALL. Guy Macon 11:19, 3 February 2011 (UTC)


 * The other side of this argument has some good points too, so I have opened a discussion about the policy on Wikipedia talk:Snowball clause. ("Clarification Needed Concerning Deleting On Sight." section.) Guy Macon  03:27, 10 February 2011 (UTC)