Wikipedia talk:Articles for deletion/Field Marshal Haig's Own Pipes & Drums

The proposal for removal of this pipeband demonstrates a main issue with a number of people in the world of pipebands: the tendency of part of the piping world to use the participation to competitions as a general reference of importance. The other (non-competition)bands are then, quite insulting, qualified as "non-notable", with even attempts to remove them from the public eye. That is a very discriminatory, elitarian, divisive and extremely snobby approach.

This negative, even arrogant, attitude does not only affect Field Marshal Haig's Own Pipes & Drums (further: FMHOP&D), but also many other similar non-competition bands and is endangering the spirit of comradeship within the pîpeband world.

Furthermore, the person proposing the deletion has obviously no serious knowledge about the pipeband scene in Flanders(Belgium) in general and even less about the hard work the small number of specific remembrance pipebands in Flanders, the Netherlands and France are doing on this subject.

In the case of FMHOP&D, the list of, often voluntary and unpaid, involvements and initiatives in the remembrance of the Great War, and, to a lesser extent, of WW2 and other conflicts, is long. Furthermore, the tradition of pipe bands in the Great War was an extremely strong one, trying to wipe out the legacy of these men is rather ignorant.

One can only wonder what the real motivations behind such a move are.

Summarizing: a) the argument "non-notable" is personal and non-rational  (to put it mildly) b) not only the entry for "Field Marshal Haig's Own Pipes & Drums" should be maintained, but also these of the all the other pipebands, proposed for deletion on the list of Ostrichyearning3, mentioned as "non-notable", as this argument doesn't comply with the policy of Wikipedia, which is aiming for, neutral, non-biased articles c)the person who tries to initiate the deletion is not qualified on the specific subject of pipebands in Flanders/BelgiumObansinglemalt (talk) 19:38, 5 April 2020 (UTC)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Obansinglemalt (talk • contribs) 19:35, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

Erwin (obansinglemalt)

"Foreign language" - reference-remark
I just noted that a remark was made on "foreign language" references on the English language Wikipedia-page. Following that rationale, quite a number of entries in non-English Wikipedia versions (Dutch, German, Vietnamese, etc. )should be deleted too, as a fair amount of the references there are in English, rather than in the local language. Furthermore, references are also serving to proof that a certain statement in the article is correct. That doesn't necessary need to be a scientific article, an ordinary newspaper article or even announcement can document certain events as well Obansinglemalt (talk) 16:04, 13 April 2020 (UTC)
 * , No one asserted that a foreign language article can't be used as a reference. And the issue isn't the credibility of the sources, the issue is whether those sources show WP:SIGCOV to establish notability. They don't. Sulfurboy (talk) 16:11, 13 April 2020 (UTC)