Wikipedia talk:Articles for deletion/Frederick Klenner

The sage editor who wants to delete my article on Dr. Frederick Klenner claims the article “paints Klenner, a figure in the world of orthomolecular quackery, as a true medical visionary.” In fact the article, based mostly on investigative reporting and Dr. Klenner’s clinical reports from over 25 years of medical practice, gives a balanced view of Klenner’s career: It demonstrates Klenner’s success in using vitamin therapy — injected megadoses of vitamin C, as well as B vitamins — to relieve and cure a wide range of acute illnesses, including viral pneumonia, polio, measles, and tetanus. It also shows that Klenner tended to over-diagnose multiple sclerosis and thus exaggerate his cure rate for that disease.

Moreover, the Frederick Klenner article reveals the ugly side of Klenner’s personality: his domineering over his wife and children; his political sympathies for the Nazis, John Birch Society and Ku Klux Klan; his contempt for black people; his apocalyptic Catholic fanaticism; and his obsessive collection of guns and survival supplies, which he hoarded in anticipation of the coming apocalypse. None of this material was included in the earlier Wikipedia article on Fred R. Klenner — which I did not write, but contributed to — and which got deleted. Yet our sage editor insists that “the sourcing in this article is actually worse than the deleted one.” The old article, which gave a fragmentary and one-sided view of Klenner’s career, contained 16 footnotes. The current article, which gives a detailed and balanced view of Klenner’s career, contains 87 footnotes.

Our sage editor claims that “content about the subject and his life is all taken form [sic] a book by Jerry Bledsoe, in which Klenner is a minor character.” Wrong on both counts: While I draw heavily on Jerry Bledsoe’s carefully researched book of investigative reporting, Bitter Blood, I draw on other sources as well, such as Ebony magazine, Adelle Davis’s book Let’s Eat Right to Keep Fit, and the Journal of Orthomolecular Medicine. And, far from being a “minor character” in Bledsoe’s book Bitter Blood, Frederick Klenner is mentioned over 50 times in that book, with several multi-page sections devoted to his life and career. Our sage editor goes on to admit that the Bledsoe book is a “reliable source,” all the while complaining I rely on it too heavily. He also complains that I draw on “unreliable sources, often faux-medical sources like Townsend Letter.” In fact, no mention of, or reference to the Townsend Letter appears in the Frederick Klenner article.

Our sage editor — once again demonstrating his equanimity and devotion to the truth — claims that I “wrote this (and virtually nothing else)” on Wikipedia. Wrong again. I am the main author of the articles on Junípero Serra, José de Gálvez and Pedro Fages, and the exclusive author of the article on Miguel Costansó. I’ve contributed to several other Wikipedia articles — for example, writing a major portion of the section on the expulsion of Jesuit priests from Spain and Mexico in 1767. Danslation (talk) 17:57, 26 October 2018 (UTC)

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If this reference is deleted by Pharma shills and quacks. I will never again donate to what is fast becoming a Pharma propaganda site. Vitamin C has been proven to cure all kinds of diseases in orthomolecular doses whether oral or IV. It is an affront to all That's good for Wiki to become the overseer of medical breakthroughs. Dan Bo (talk) 15:04, 13 December 2019 (UTC)