Wikipedia talk:Articles for deletion/Greater Palestine

Merge
So how will the article be merged now? Makeandtoss (talk) 10:17, 19 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Should be discussed at Talk:Jordan%E2%80%93Palestine relations but I would copy the content from here to there, blank the page and redirect, ask one of those that advocated a merge to do the necessary? Or could try and do it. Selfstudier (talk) 12:37, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I don't think it should be redirected so that is why I am asking. Makeandtoss (talk) 17:10, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
 * After, you can have the redirect deleted (due to merge). Selfstudier (talk) 17:27, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Merge does not necessarily mean redirect. People looking for Jordan-Palestine relations will not be searching "Greater Palestine", since as demonstrated in the discussion, the term is not supported by any reliable source. Makeandtoss (talk) 15:18, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Take this to WP:RfD to discuss the feasibility of deleting the now redirect if you wish. The outcome here is simply to merge. The likely outcome of the RfD discussion though is speedy keep. per WP:RPURPOSE * To comply with the maintenance of nontrivial edit history, pursuant to Merging for copyright licensing requirements. – robertsky (talk) 15:22, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
 * what do you think about a having a disambig at the title instead of a redirect? fiveby(zero) 15:31, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Well thanks for asking, but again, as demonstrated in the discussion page, there are no reliable sources saying that Greater Palestine is connected to Jordan; on the contrary, the overwhelming majority of online sources describe Greater Palestine as being equivalent to Mandatory Palestine. So a disambiguation would still not connect Greater Palestine to Jordan. If anything it should be redirected to Palestine (region). In these RS, Greater Palestine is referring to Mandatory Palestine, and Palestine as in the Palestinian territories., , , . Makeandtoss (talk) 15:40, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
 * First things first, the established consensus was to merge applicable content (fwiw, not much). Someone has to actually do that, if it is pending, the material should be copied over to the consensus target with attribution to GP (wherever it ends up). Selfstudier (talk) 16:06, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I agree with Makeandtoss “ the overwhelming majority of online sources describe Greater Palestine as being equivalent to Mandatory Palestine.” From what I have read, online sources seem to mention Greater Palestine and Greater Israel together. I think a section regarding the Greater Palestine concept could be put under the Greater Israel section which the redirect pointing there. Wafflefrites (talk) 16:17, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Oh wait, @Makeandtoss, I was just looking at maps of Mandatory Palestine and it seems that it includes Jordan?? Wafflefrites (talk) 16:58, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
 * See Mandate for Palestine for the position as regards Transjordan, which was administered separately by virtue of the Trans-Jordan memorandum. Selfstudier (talk) 17:13, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
 * As mentioned by Selfstudier, Mandate for Palestine (a document) is separate from Mandatory Palestine (an entity). Makeandtoss (talk) 18:55, 20 January 2024 (UTC)